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Atheists Call 9-11 Memorial Cross
“Grossly Offensive”

FOX News & Commentary, by Todd Starnes

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Posted By:NYC RAL, 8/28/2013 7:56:35 AM

A Jewish firefighter who wants to display a Christian cross as part of a New Jersey 9-11 memorial is facing stiff opposition from a group of atheists who called the religious image “grossly offensive.” The American Atheists are threatening to sue Princeton, NJ if they proceed with plans to erect the memorial. They took issue with a beam that was salvaged from the ruins of the World Trade Center because a cross had been cut out of one side of the beam. “This particular beam has a religious symbol on it,” American Atheists president David Silverman told Fox News.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: nimby, 8/28/2013 8:04:48 AM     (No. 9494935)

Their acts are grossly offensive

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Reply 2 - Posted by: manitouman, 8/28/2013 8:06:38 AM     (No. 9494939)


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Reply 3 - Posted by: MattMusson, 8/28/2013 8:16:24 AM     (No. 9494957)

I have an idea they are going to be REALLY offended come Judgement day.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: tennisbum, 8/28/2013 8:18:45 AM     (No. 9494961)

The atheists, who profess to believe in nothing, sure do work very hard to prevent any symbol that represents a higher power from being displayed. Could it be that their belief in nothing is a very tenuous belief and subject to believing if they see these symbols. Horrors!!!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: bpl40, 8/28/2013 8:33:10 AM     (No. 9494998)

Their inalienable right to hold such an offensive position flows from a document which accepts that these are "endowed by their Creator" (with a Capital C). Deny the Creator and natural law will have an open season on you.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: pc1eszm, 8/28/2013 8:38:15 AM     (No. 9495008)

Those of us who are grossly offended by pretty much everything in popular culture these days have been told for years to suck it up and deal with it. Well, it´s time for the athiests to suck it up and deal with it. Being offended is part of life. Get over it.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: pinger, 8/28/2013 8:51:56 AM     (No. 9495033)

So what they want us to believe is that the government, by allowing that cross to stay, is trying to establish a religion. Even they don´t believe that. Their real mission must be to pull others down into the gutter in which they reside.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mitzi, 8/28/2013 8:55:40 AM     (No. 9495039)

If they don´t believe in God - how can it be offensive? The cross would be meaningless. It would signify nothing.

On the other hand ... the cross could really upset and possibly "grossly offend" a guilty conscience.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: curious1, 8/28/2013 8:57:14 AM     (No. 9495046)

The resurgence of atheists goes hand in glove along with the other elements put in motion by the communists a century ago to destroy our culture from within. The most successful culture to date, in the history of man. The only bright spot is Russia and China are having to deal with those elements, too, these days. Too bad our ancestors didn´t have the brains to understand the constitution wasn´t a suicide pact, and allowed the libtards to subvert so much instead of just hanging them (after a fair, 5 min trial, of course).

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Reply 10 - Posted by: EnsignO, 8/28/2013 9:01:40 AM     (No. 9495059)

Yes, Mr. Silverman, the Romans purposefully made a cross to be "grossly offensive" in order to control people who didn´t follow Roman laws. Now, because of one man who died on a cross but stubbornly wouldn´t remain in his grave, a cross symbol is a way for many people to say "I will not remain in a grave". Whomever carved out that cross in the beam was refusing eternal death.

So, Mr. Silverman, no one is forcing you to believe in escaping eternal death. You go right ahead and call the cross "grossly offensive" because it was around the year 33 AD, but you will never be able to eliminate the cross. Our homes, hospitals, offices, schools, and plant facilities have one thing in common - a crossbeam.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: F16 guy, 8/28/2013 9:05:19 AM     (No. 9495069)

There is a large and growing number of this countries population that just simply needs to take a giant CHILL PILL.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: gaeditor, 8/28/2013 9:07:24 AM     (No. 9495072)

I am grossly offended now, too. Not by any religious symbol but by these self-centered atheists who object to anything THEY don´t like (and who care about no one else rights).

When are people going to start suing them back for violating their rights of religious liberty?

I have rights,to, not just atheists! That Jewish firefighter has them as well. So does anyone who ever went to church, mass, synagogue or anything similar.

Mr. Silverman is a disrespectful and odious narcissist who apparently thinks he is superior enough (and stupid enough) to sue everyone´s ELSE´S religious beliefs away. Pathetic!

Atheists are not more special than other people. Others have the same rights as them. This attorney is an overgrown, obnoxious 5-year-old in an adult body, and should (as should everyone else of his ilk) stop trying to tell everyone else how to behave and what to think and believe.

Can we please stop training these desperate-for-attention-types to know that they can get loads of their narcissistic supply from our court system and media?

And members of our legal system worry about clogging up our courts. This egotistical, pathetic excuse for a lawyer is doing exactly that..

However, since its in Princeton, New Jersey, I´m sure his poisonous and obnoxious attitude will be lauded by the city and their obviously cowardly mayor.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 8/28/2013 9:23:11 AM     (No. 9495093)


So you´re offended. Where does it say that you must never be offended? Lots of things offend me - - including you.

Live with it.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Peaches, 8/28/2013 9:29:07 AM     (No. 9495113)

Hey, athiests! Don´t think of it as a cross...it´s a "t". Just think of it as the letter "t," and you won´t get your panties in a bunch.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Coy860, 8/28/2013 9:37:14 AM     (No. 9495128)

Suit yourselves, atheists have a right to be offended...we have a right to put up a cross. Carry on..

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Reply 16 - Posted by: dman, 8/28/2013 9:40:26 AM     (No. 9495132)

If they are truly atheists, it shouldn´t matter. Religious symbols cannot offend a non-existent god.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: GoDeacs79, 8/28/2013 9:46:31 AM     (No. 9495159)

If the atheists built a memorial to something (I don´t what) I wouldn´t visit it. Why can´t those offended by a cross (and I don´t believe they really are for a second) just choose not to go see it?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Bohallx, 8/28/2013 10:01:35 AM     (No. 9495197)

Vlad Tepes knew what to do with unbelievers and crosses.

It´s a custom made for the moment, and here we are ~ a ´moment´.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Taylor1066, 8/28/2013 10:01:43 AM     (No. 9495199)

I am an atheist myself.

But, as a conservative atheist, other people practicing their religion couldn´t possibly offend me.

The "atheists" in this story are actually lunatic liberal Democrats.

Unless your religion harms people, denies their freedoms or prevents minors from medical assistance... I have no problems whatsoever. I believe that most atheists would agree with me.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Salt5792, 8/28/2013 10:06:50 AM     (No. 9495209)

Athiests are pretty high on the Democrat priority list, too.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Philly_Patriot, 8/28/2013 10:15:23 AM     (No. 9495227)

What about Christians* who are ´GROSSLY Offended´ by sodomy and Gay Marriage.

*also Orthodox Jews and Muslims.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: mindyourbubble, 8/28/2013 10:19:50 AM     (No. 9495234)

Well Atheists:
"If your eyes offend you, pluck them out..."

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Reply 23 - Posted by: jimmiet, 8/28/2013 10:34:50 AM     (No. 9495262)

The cross is not the target. Religion is not the the only target, the target is the Constitution! Unalienable rights begin with the supremacy of God. Destroy that foundation and the Constitution is reduced to meaningless words. The left is using everything and I mean everything to destroy America. They control the courts, the media and the education system such as it is. Pray for the return of Jesus Christ, He is our only hope and always has been.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: voxlapidis, 8/28/2013 10:50:11 AM     (No. 9495295)

How do they type with that offensive "T" on the keyboard?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 8/28/2013 11:09:04 AM     (No. 9495334)

#19, Taylor1066, wrote:

"I am an atheist myself.

But, as a conservative atheist, other people practicing their religion couldn´t possibly offend me.

The ´atheists´ in this story are actually lunatic liberal Democrats.

Unless your religion harms people, denies their freedoms or prevents minors from medical assistance... I have no problems whatsoever. I believe that most atheists would agree with me."

As a lifelong theist, #19, I agree with your sentiment. I would add that I feel the same towards gays, polymorous, drug-users, etal. I only oppose those who would sue me for not joining them in subsidy or celebration of their choices or lifestyle.

I reserve the right not to hire, work for, work with, provide service to, or otherwise associate with, anyone, for any reason that occurs to me at the moment. It´s called freedom of association. Nevertheless, I tolerate all kinds of personal expression of beliefs, values, preferences, etc.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: dittohead, 8/28/2013 11:32:26 AM     (No. 9495372)

This must be another new found RIGHT (like healthcare) - the right to not be offended. As usual, this right is only afforded to the left.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: mickturn, 8/28/2013 12:34:20 PM     (No. 9495476)

I find Athiests obsession with OUR religious symbols GROSSLY OFFENSIVE. That means they need to be totally banned, pushed off the Planet and forced to live on the SUN. All those in favor........

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mitzi, 8/28/2013 3:02:36 PM     (No. 9495661)

I just came across (via Twitter) an article that appeared in The Telegraph (UK) on August 14, 2013, entitled:

Are atheists mentally ill? by Sean Thomas.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: LaVallette, 8/29/2013 4:37:58 AM     (No. 9496478)

So a piece of "debris" metal kept as a memorial commemorating those who died in the disaster is "establishing a religion" while scaring the proverbial out of the
´unbelieving deniers´ of the supernatural. They do not even realize how ridiculous they look. They are demonstrating the fear of the devil inside them. "In Hoc Signo, Vinces".

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Daisymae, 8/30/2013 1:00:38 PM     (No. 9498546)

Would X marks the spot offend you? No?, then just tilt your head.

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/15/2014 9:25:28 AM     Post Reply
When President Obama needed a preacher to fulfill the closing prayer duties at the annual White House Easter Prayer Breakfast, he turned to none other than the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop — who said he was as shocked as anyone at the appointment. The Right Rev. Gene Robinson said in a tweet, accompanied by a photo of Mr. Obama behind a podium at the event: “POTUS ‘preaches’ at the Easter prayer breakfast. Then, out of the blue, asks ME to close with prayer. OMG!” Newsmax said he also emphasized that the words he chose to close the breakfast

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