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WH Plans Syria Intervention But Silent
on U.N., Congressional Approval

National Review Online, by Alec Torres

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 8/27/2013 8:33:38 PM

The White House has made it clear that the Syrian government’s recent use of chemical weapons isn’t going to go unanswered, but they’ve declined to say whether they’ll want authorization from the United Nations or Congress for any eventual action. When White House press secretary Jay Carney was asked today whether the president would wait for a vote from the U.N. Security Council and whether he would request congressional approval, he said that such questions presume a response the president has not yet committed to. At the State Department’s press briefing today, a spokesman also wouldn’t comment on the matter

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: TarAndFeathers, 8/27/2013 8:39:24 PM     (No. 9494429)

Go away and don´t bother me while I´m sucking my thumb.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 8/27/2013 8:40:07 PM     (No. 9494432)

Don´t worry, Barry has a Nobel Peace Prize... so there´s that.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney, 8/27/2013 9:19:14 PM     (No. 9494494)

You would think Congress might have a comment!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: sagman, 8/28/2013 6:56:09 AM     (No. 9494842)

Obama War Room: the Uniter, not the Decider

OBAMA: [staring out window, talking to himself] If I attack Syria, the Russians will delay talks on U.S. nuclear disarmament to punish me. If I don’t attack Syria, I’ll get nailed by Rick Perry for being all chat and no battle. If I attack Syria . . .
JOE BIDEN: [just arrived] Jay, what’s going on?
CARNEY: He’s thinking out loud about what to do, sir.
OBAMA: . . . maybe scare him enough into abdicating. If I don’t attack Syria, the North Koreans will know I’m a wimp and launch an invasion of South Korea. If I attack Syria . . .
BIDEN: How long has this been going on?
CARNEY: Almost four hours now.
OBAMA: . . . I’d be aiding al-Qaeda, and maybe they’d be grateful and just attack foreign airlines with those surface-to-air missiles they got in Benghazi. If I don’t attack Syria . . .
VALERIE JARRETT: Sir, sir, you need to make a decision.
OBAMA: . . . I won’t be stuck in the Situation Room this weekend and I can play golf. If . . .
MICHELLE: [shaking the president] Barack! Choose!
OBAMA: All right. All right.
CHUCK HAGEL: Your orders, sir.
OBAMA: One, send a third carrier group to the Eastern Med. Declare the waters around all three no-fly zones. That includes our aircraft. Two, request that Israel airdrop into Syrian rebel-held territory enough gas masks for every man, woman, and child. Three, check with Assad’s military people: perhaps they were aiming the poison gas missiles at rebel units and accidentally hit civilian neighborhoods. Offer the services of our experts to troubleshoot their targeting systems. Where is U.N. Ambassador Powers this morning?
JOHN KERRY: On a cruise to Bermuda, sir.
OBAMA: When she returns, instruct her to call for a special session of the Security Council. We are going to take the lead in this crisis.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rinktum, 8/28/2013 7:02:36 AM     (No. 9494851)

Face it, no one in Washington DC knows what they are doing except the lobbyists and they are doing swimmingly. The fact that the country could be looking at the spark that starts WWIII and our beloved politicians can´t be bothered to return to Washington is an endictment upon the leadership in this country. We don´t have leaders who can or even want to handle this dangerous situation. For the first time in my adult life, I am afraid the government is incapable of defending us if things go badly in Syria as they so easily could.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Janjan, 8/28/2013 7:10:50 AM     (No. 9494862)

Obama is learning a lesson after 5 years that previous Presidents learned after 5 days. Words matter. Especially words that are uttered by the so-called leader of the free world. When he drew a red line with Syra over chemical weapons he saw his comments as a nice soundbite for MSNBC. The rest of the world saw it as a threat. Our national interest in Syria is to ensure that another country in the Middle East is not taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a complex and dangerous situation that Obama does not understand and cannot effectively manage. While the media fret and wring their hands over Obama´s ´legacy´ the rest of us are on the verge of world war.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Red Jeep, 8/28/2013 7:11:40 AM     (No. 9494864)

Rumored weapons of mass destruction? Brutal dictator...

Sounds like Iraq all over again. Will the Libs do everything they accused President Bush of doing?

Where are the Peaceniks?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 8/28/2013 7:26:45 AM     (No. 9494886)

Headline, au contraire: Neither Congressional nor U.N. approval was sought by the Occupy White House personnel.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: arcady, 8/28/2013 7:36:30 AM     (No. 9494896)

He´s like the Miley Cyrus of politics. He´s Twerking all over the place...

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Reply 10 - Posted by: LAW428, 8/28/2013 7:53:53 AM     (No. 9494919)

#5 made me think. I don´t think our President or our Congress have the will, or desire, to do what is absolutely the best for America or American citizens. It is more apparent all the time that Obama is concerned about his own thin skin and Congress is concerned about re-election.

Neither care about doing what is right. I fear for our children and grandchildren. The so-called leaders have feathered their nests and couldn´t care less about people in fly-over country.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bpl40, 8/28/2013 7:59:40 AM     (No. 9494925)

A second American Revolution is the only thing that will save us. From the number of hollow point bullets they are purchasing the Regime seems to be afraid of exactly that.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: maryc, 8/28/2013 8:02:56 AM     (No. 9494931)

How can we have a man who is all wrong all the time making this decision unilaterally ? This is America and we seem to have lost our way under his I think rule is a better word because I cannot say leadership. Where are the Constitutional safe guards of a Congress and Supreme Court ? All cowering from what ? I can´t make it make sense.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: OhMy, 8/28/2013 8:15:36 AM     (No. 9494954)

Yeah #4 for your "uniter not a decider"- perfect. As for the fallout from the Red Line comment has the possibility been considered that the gas attack came from the rebel forces themselves acting as provocateurs? I read that some of there men were in hospital being treated for the effects of the gas! Obama is fighting for Al Queda in effect. He is being played for a fool and everyone is along for the ride with none of the congressional or UN approval demanded of Bush by the peaceniks. Obama has his peace prize from day one so why bother with these things?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 8/28/2013 8:19:01 AM     (No. 9494964)

If we keep the House and retake the Senate Congress will be in a position to do something. Failing that, Obama will continue to be king.Complain to Harry Reid if you want action in the Senate. Good luck.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: govlawyer, 8/28/2013 8:35:06 AM     (No. 9495003)

I´m waiting for the Won to blame Bush.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: red oak, 8/28/2013 8:41:37 AM     (No. 9495014)

The biggest thing that will hold up an attack by our "administration" is that Chuck Hagel said "we´re ready to go, just waiting on Obama to approve." Big headline. No escaping it.

Obama doesn´t like to be accountable for anything, and he´s now diddling, trying to work around Hagel´s bungle, or let enough time pass so people will forget about that headline. Accountability for what happens next is now painted on Obama for the ultimate decision. He hates that. Hates it.

Remember he had an escape hatch in case the Bin Ladin raid went wrong. Can´t vote present on this one, thanks to Hagel.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 8/28/2013 9:06:37 AM     (No. 9495071)

If he attacks without Congress´ approval, will Joe Biden push for impeachment ?


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Reply 18 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 8/28/2013 9:14:26 AM     (No. 9495082)

Frankly, I don´t give a toot if Assad kills every Muslim in the middle East. The world would be a better place if he did. That the USA would spend a single dollar on protecting Muslims or building their infrastructure is obscene.

The policy of "winning hearts and minds" that started with Bush is hopeless and stupid. How do you win the hearts and minds of people whose very religion demands that they kill or enslave us all?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 8/28/2013 9:14:52 AM     (No. 9495084)

The only thing left to do is take his prompter to a middle school and make a speech on education...again.
Return to Washington and stand in the hall of the nation´s Capital dome and spike the ball..again on the killing of Bin Laden.
Go to the Lincoln memorial have a ´black fest´ and get your ego re-inflated. It´s all that´s left to do because WWIII looms.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: dman, 8/28/2013 9:16:24 AM     (No. 9495087)

How many Americans and Israelis (not to mention a few others) will die as a result of the Emperor´s no-win fiasco?

Ronald Reagan settled the Cold War without firing a shot.

Barack Hussein Obama is no Ronald Wilson Reagan.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: chicodon, 8/28/2013 9:41:51 AM     (No. 9495141)

#4
This is one of your best. It probably is happening just that way.

#7
Maybe because Obama is giving him a heads-up, Assad can send the WMD´s back to Iraq (even though they were never there).

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Stryker714, 8/28/2013 9:57:20 AM     (No. 9495189)

Maybe if a bean counter just tells King Caliphate there is no money in the budget for cruise missiles due to the sequester he agreed on, that might work, lol. They cost a million a piece in 1991, probably more by now. If there is no money for flyovers and white house tours, why would we have to pay for his missile strikes? Stop supporting Muslim brotherhood already!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: RancherJack, 8/28/2013 10:49:58 AM     (No. 9495294)

This settles it

If Obama isn´t the anti-Christ, he´s doing a damn good job of imitating him

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Reply 24 - Posted by: strike3, 8/28/2013 12:06:18 PM     (No. 9495424)

I wonder if the Jackass-in-Chief has figured out yet why Russia wanted us to weaken our missile defenses. You don´t play chess with a guy like Putin unless you have a very good game. Our allies will have even more reason to hate us when the fireworks begin because they will have front row seats.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 8/28/2013 12:27:01 PM     (No. 9495461)

# 3 They are all speaking out-from the right and the left.
Apparently , it is
the president who has the power
to call Congress back from recess
for an Emergency Session.
Article II, section 3 of the Constitution provides that the president "may, on extraordinary occasions,
convene both Houses,
or neither of them."
So..he´s obviously not going to call Congress
back because they
might raise inconvenient questions.
Like-you´re going to war based on a phone call ???
Whatever Barry does will most likely happen before
Congress returns after Labor Day .


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Reply 26 - Posted by: Rafter, 8/28/2013 1:31:35 PM     (No. 9495570)

#4, enjoyed the read, as per usual...

Where was O-Bomber during Benghazi...?

Probably he had to powder his nose...
and get a Reggie Wedgie...
and who knows what else... ?
Certainly, like the transcripts of college and the birfin´ certimicut and everything else...
It cannot be revealed, and is unspeakable...
To help keep Bambi from being reviled...

If O-Bomber is a Jackass...
Who´s the real Jenny-ass... ?
Dat be ValJar, it seems...

Wonder what she plans to do about this latest looming... Q-u-a-g-m-i-r-e.... ?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Namma, 8/28/2013 4:15:28 PM     (No. 9495818)

why would dictator even consider talking things over with congress...everything is going as planned by Valjar and her pal hussien and the stupid dems that support them

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 8/28/2013 7:56:17 PM     (No. 9496157)

Some critters made it necessary to go to the UN so now LOL the little dictator has been nixed by the security council by 2 votes.
If he goes for his limited waste of effort strike while the UN inspectors are in Syria he may need the US Constitution to stay out of the world court.
Question is can he hide via the Constitution when he has trampled it so often.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: gone2pot, 8/28/2013 8:02:11 PM     (No. 9496166)

Q. In what circumstances, if any, would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress? (Specifically, what about the strategic bombing of suspected nuclear sites — a situation that does not involve stopping an IMMINENT threat?)

Obama: The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

- Interview with Charlie Savage, December 20, 2007

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LAS VEGAS — The Nevada Republican Party stripped opposition to abortion and gay marriage from its platform Saturday as state convention delegates instead focused on judging fellow Republicans on their worthiness to serve in office and adherence to GOP values. The platform, with few changes, was adopted overwhelmingly as the Las Vegas convention stretched late into the evening. The vote mirrors that of the Clark County GOP, which voted earlier to remove platform language defining marriage as between a man and a woman and statements opposing abortion. Many Republicans are re-evaluating their strong stances on conservative social issues as public

Obama Generation Losing
Interest in Obama

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Wall Street Journal, by James Freeman    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 4:23:09 PM     Post Reply
President Obama inspired a generation of young people to support his historic election in 2008. And in 2012, despite the struggles of his first term, Mr. Obama still managed to win the support of a full 60% of voters age 18-29. But the man who once dreamed of being a transformative leader in the Reagan mold is inspiring few of those young people to follow his lead. "For all the talk about the movement that elected Mr. Obama, the more notable movement of Obama supporters has been away from politics. It appears that few of the young people who voted

Obama Selects First Openly Gay
Episcopal Bishop to Lead Easter Prayer

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Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell    Original Article
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President Obama pulled a surprise move Monday at the White House’s Easter Prayer Breakfast when he selected Gene Robinson to lead the closing prayer. Robinson is famously known as the first openly gay Episcopal bishop. Talking Points Memo’s Tom Kludt spotted the following tweet from Robinson, who was in attendance: (Tweet) Robinson, 66, became diocesan bishop of New Hampshire in March 2004. He retired in January 2013 and is currently a senior fellow at the progressive

Developing: Russian fighter jet buzzes
U.S. Navy destroyer in Black Sea

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Associated Press, by Lolita C. Baldor    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 12:49:12 PM     Post Reply
A Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region, a U.S. military official said Monday. In the first public account of the incident, the official said the Russian Fencer flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level. Ship commanders considered the actions provocative and inconsistent with international agreements, prompting the ship to issue several radio queries and warnings. The fighter appeared to be unarmed and never was in danger of

Why You Should Be Sympathetic
Toward Cliven Bundy

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Powerline, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: Toledo- 4/15/2014 8:40:58 AM     Post Reply
On Saturday, I wrote about the standoff at Bundy Ranch. That post drew a remarkable amount of traffic, even though, as I wrote then, I had not quite decided what to make of the story. Since then, I have continued to study the facts and have drawn some conclusions. Here they are. First, it must be admitted that legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. The Bureau of Land Management has been charging him grazing fees since the early 1990s, which he has refused to pay. Further, BLM has issued orders limiting the area on which Bundy’s cows can


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