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Oklahoma Ban on Sharia Law
Unconstitutional, US Judge Rules

Wall Street Journal, by Jacob Gershman

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 8/17/2013 11:42:01 AM

An Oklahoma federal judge struck down a state constitutional amendment that forbade its courts from considering Islamic law in judicial decisions. The constitutional amendment — approved by more than 70% of Oklahoma voters in 2010 — was part of a broader national push led by a handful of organizations that claim Islamic Sharia law is creeping into courtrooms. WSJ wrote about the anti-Sharia movement last year. Because the proposed amendment discriminated among religions, Oklahoma needed to show a compelling state interest to justify it, U.S. District Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange in Oklahoma City wrote in her decision. The decision, made on Thursday, largely mirrors


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mitzi, 8/17/2013 11:49:34 AM     (No. 9478573)

Critics of foreign law bans say they’re “anti-Muslim in intent” and are vulnerable to First Amendment challenges.

First Amendment? Do we still have a First Amendment? Could have fooled me!!!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ronbet, 8/17/2013 11:50:24 AM     (No. 9478576)

When one unelected person can over rule 70% of the voters we have a problem, don´t you think?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: miceal, 8/17/2013 11:50:46 AM     (No. 9478577)

This Judge needs to be LOUDLY and PUBLICLY derided and then impeached. I´m thinking "tar and feathers" might be appropriate as well.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 8/17/2013 11:57:09 AM     (No. 9478587)

The amendment ban law. It didn´t ban religion or the practice of that religion (or cult). The problem is our courts don,´t and should recognize Canon Law. But it does recognize Muzzie law. This amendment simply limited courts to the laws of the land, and not religious laws. As expected, a judge totally unaccountable to the people decided to legislate from the bench and find a code of law unacceptable to the gooberned to now be force upon them. We are past time to enact Jefferson´s advise.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: planetgeo, 8/17/2013 11:58:33 AM     (No. 9478590)

I have previously proposed that it is time to establish standards for what constitutes a "religion". This is critical for our survival and not just a trivial theoretical exercise, since our constitution provides protections to religions that would allow a cult or dangerous political system masquerading as a religion (i.e., Islam, Exhibit 1) to worm its way into our legal system and political structures.

Standard #1 should be that no system which exhorts its followers to kill or otherwise attack non-believers could be considered a religion.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Yosemite Sam, 8/17/2013 12:23:36 PM     (No. 9478625)

Miles-LaGrange was nominated by President Bill Clinton on September 22, 1994, to a seat on the United States District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma vacated by Lee Roy West.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: zahbudda, 8/17/2013 12:25:17 PM     (No. 9478628)

What fresh hell is this? Judge Vicki should be tarred and feathered and run out of Oklahoma on a rail!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: trackman999, 8/17/2013 12:26:19 PM     (No. 9478633)

Fascism ( which is what islam is ) , is not contitutional.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: aasilver, 8/17/2013 12:28:53 PM     (No. 9478634)

Judge Miles-LaGrange = African-American Woman.

Is she a Muslim??????

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Reply 10 - Posted by: smoolie, 8/17/2013 12:29:10 PM     (No. 9478635)

Your Honor, under Sharia you would be one of the first to be publicly humiliated and then stoned to death.

Does this not give you pause?

Is this the "Law" you wish American females to live under?

I was under the belief that higher education makes one think deeper and in the long term. My mistake.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: ledbythnose, 8/17/2013 12:29:26 PM     (No. 9478636)

Communist Judges Nation WIDE are overruling the will of the MAJORITY . This will not end well. The Natives are watching and becoming restless.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Freeloader, 8/17/2013 12:37:41 PM     (No. 9478642)

So just who is this federal judge, appointed to the bench by Willie Clinton, who sided with the bomb throwers at the ACLU against a 2010 state constitutional amendment, approved by over 70% of the Oklahoma voters?...For starters, holds a certificate from the University of Ghana and is a card carrying member, in good standing, of the leftist Washington, D.C. based Links Incorporated.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: TulsaTowner, 8/17/2013 12:45:50 PM     (No. 9478650)

I don´t even know what to say, I´m so disgusted.

On second thought, I think the only course of action left is that proposed by Mark Levin. Watched him on Hannity last night and he was BRILLIANT. If Hannity had programs like this even once a week, I would watch him. Levin was humble, but extremely strong. The panel was an incredible group of people. I felt almost as if I was watching the second coming of the founding fathers in discussion.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: StuartL, 8/17/2013 12:47:46 PM     (No. 9478651)

One of these days, perhaps not too long from now, Texas may be hosting a party.

Oklahoma will not be invited.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Grambo, 8/17/2013 12:51:19 PM     (No. 9478656)

It is not Islam the religion that is in question here; it’s the appended Sharia law. Under the court’s ruling, any foreign law could be instituted on US soil by merely tacking a religion of some sort to it. It is the fact that Islam has an embedded Sharia law in it that distinguishes it from other mainstream religions, and makes it a theo-political entity, rather than a religion.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: GoodGrief, 8/17/2013 1:26:10 PM     (No. 9478681)

Posters -- read #5.

During WWII the United States had to change the status of the NAZI Party (Hitler´s) in our consideration of political freedom in a similar fashion.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Marilu, 8/17/2013 1:40:24 PM     (No. 9478690)

Where is the "separation of church and state" that the Lefties are so proud of?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ronbet, 8/17/2013 2:02:41 PM     (No. 9478707)


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Reply 19 - Posted by: craige, 8/17/2013 2:08:01 PM     (No. 9478710)

1. My understanding is that Sharia law is NOT Islam. Muslims (and sometimes Christians) may live under sharia law. It is very old Arab law, adapted to Islam.

2. Judges make rulings under federal, state and local law. Such laws are passed by legislative bodies and signed by an executive. Or sometimes voted into law by citizens. I have not heard about any political entity in the US adapting sharia law, under the above described methods.

3. Judges are bound by valid US laws. Sharia law does not meet such criteria, and is therefore irrelevant. Judges cannot even consider it, except perhaps in equity cases.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: CEP, 8/17/2013 2:20:16 PM     (No. 9478725)

So it is okay for the federal and state courts to try people under sharia law? Here I thought there was only state and federal laws in this country. Hey just start picking and choosing how your want to be tried or arrested. Lets really make it a Rube Goldberg set of laws in this country.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: mindyourbubble, 8/17/2013 2:22:26 PM     (No. 9478726)

So it will be okay for a "Sharia" husband to decapitate his wife because she only looked at another man! Kill a daughter who dated a Christian?! Maim a son by chopping off his hand because he used the car without permission? And so on...
Isn´t that reason enough to be acts within the "states interest"?
This judge is as stupid as a fence post.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: PatriotOne, 8/17/2013 2:24:53 PM     (No. 9478729)

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Reply 23 - Posted by: PatriotOne, 8/17/2013 2:26:31 PM     (No. 9478730)

Islam is NOT a religion. Islam has a religious component, but Islam is a rigid, unconditional, uncompromising social concept that dictates every aspect of life and society, including banking, welfare, warfare, education and environment.

The goal of Islam is establishment of a world caliphate, wherein Allah is the only god to be accepted and worshiped by Muslims ~ all other people are to be regarded as "infidels" and given three choices: 1. Convert; 2. Submit [i.e. acknowledge the supremacy of Islam, become slaves, and pay a tax for their slavery], or,
3. Die.

Allah is the one and only "true God;" the Qur´an is God´s word; shari´ah law is absolute and cannot be changed or questioned.

Islam dictates that all other religions are false ~ that all other laws are false ~ that would include our Constitution!

Is that what we want? I don´t.......

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Reply 24 - Posted by: columba, 8/17/2013 2:59:18 PM     (No. 9478757)

The Muslim Brotherhood wins one in OK.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: ASAvet, 8/17/2013 3:00:17 PM     (No. 9478758)

This "judge" needs to be introduced to a tall tree and an old rope. Quickly.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: surfhut, 8/17/2013 3:16:36 PM     (No. 9478769)

We Okies don´t take no for an answer. This will not stand.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: WilliamTell, 8/17/2013 3:20:40 PM     (No. 9478774)

#2 It is the way in Kalifornica. We vote on a proposition, a judge overrules - standard procedure.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 8/17/2013 3:25:37 PM     (No. 9478776)

If Barry Soetoro can pick and choose which laws he wishes to enforce, the good people of Oklahoma (and every other state to boot) should be able to pick and choose which rulings of Federal courts they care to acknowledge and abide by. As Andy Jackson once said, the judge has ruled, now let us see her try to enforce that ruling.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Keekng, 8/17/2013 3:31:00 PM     (No. 9478785)

Sharia law is not protected by the US Constitution

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Reply 30 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 8/17/2013 3:45:01 PM     (No. 9478798)

FTA:"The American Civil Liberties Union challenged the amendment on behalf of Muneer Awad, executive director of the Oklahoma chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations."

To summarize: the ACLU, on behalf of CAIR, brings a lawsuit. A black judge, educated in Ghana, and appointed by Bill Clinton, declares an amendment approved by more than 70% of Oklahoma citizens to be ´unconstitutional.´

Bottom Line: We The People are irrelevant.

Let´s do something about that.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Words have Meaning, 8/17/2013 4:12:34 PM     (No. 9478820)

Hey Vicki: Can I call you Vicki?
In looking over your bio I see you have all the credentials to be a first class white hating racial freak.

Let´s see Howard University? Check
African American studies major? check
A.K.A. sorority member? check

I don´t see anything about Constitutional Studies.
Perhaps you can get Prof. Obama to refresh your memories about your sworn responsibilities as a judge.
Oh yeah, congrats on helping Pres. Clinton fulfill his racial quota.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: JediJerry, 8/17/2013 4:34:17 PM     (No. 9478842)

The Constitution is slowly being replaced by The Koran. The Men in Black will agree that Sharia Law over rules US Law, so we don´t discriminate and religiously profile in the court room. The will of the people has been neutralized by one judge. Just like Prop 8 in California. But this case in particular has no bearing on religious discrimination, and the mind number federal judge as deemed. It has to do with the sovereignty of US Law.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 8/17/2013 4:36:06 PM     (No. 9478844)

The consideration of Sharia law has become an issue at least in part because one of the looniest and worst members of SCOTUS spoke *approving* of the practice of considering foreign law in rendering decisions. Since that nitwit wasn´t run out of town by nighrtfall ofthe same day, we may take it as given that inferior courts will defer to that precedent
In any event, this garbage will continue unless and until these self-styled dukes and barons of the judiciary get slapped down HARD for their misconduct.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Heil Liberals, 8/17/2013 4:38:44 PM     (No. 9478846)

Sharia Law. That is what the amendment prohibited from consideration. It did not ban Islamic religious tradition. When the term law is used in relationship to human interactions, it is meant to define what one freeman can and cannot do in relationship to another freeman´s rights. That law is conditioned upon the United States Constitution and the Common Law. No other law, religious or otherwise has a legitimate place in our Constitutional legal system. This is something this dimwitted judge obviously does not understand.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: NRAisFreedom, 8/17/2013 4:56:56 PM     (No. 9478865)

Federal judges overruling the states and 70% of the people?!?!? Can´t get much more insane than that. She ruled it "unconstitutional" ... what a joke! These judges are insane and drunk with self-proclaimed power (NOT OF THE PEOPLE).

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Phantomll, 8/17/2013 5:15:15 PM     (No. 9478882)

I never have understood how a federal judge can overrule the will of the people. How did they gain so much power?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Time4AR2, 8/17/2013 6:42:18 PM     (No. 9478951)

But banning the ten commandments is constitutional???

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Bohallx, 8/17/2013 6:54:20 PM     (No. 9478967)

Sharia is not Islam, nor is Isam Sharia.

Islamists use Sharia to control people ~ and to punish uppity women ~ the judge in this case would probably be stoned anywhere Sharia is in place and enforced by the civil government.

Here she may well be in danger because she ruled on Sharia with a reference to the Establishment Clause in our Constitution. There are Islamofascist terrorists who counsider such behavior haram!

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Udanja99, 8/17/2013 8:08:46 PM     (No. 9479039)

Put Judge Vicki in a burqa.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: texas_gop, 8/17/2013 10:13:36 PM     (No. 9479122)

Isn´t the House supposed to have oversight of judges that get appointed? They can do something but won´t. Seems once appointed you can do what you want. Judges were never given this power under the constitution.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 8/18/2013 1:04:07 AM     (No. 9479188)

The State AG of Oklahoma needs to send a little note to Miss Vicky and tell her highness that her "opinion" is meaningless and void of legal reasoning.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 8/18/2013 3:08:01 AM     (No. 9479226)

#24 No, that´s two.
FL passed a similar law and after CAIR got involved, it was overturned.

So much for 70% of the voters in OK.

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Let me obliterate a bit of confusion here: the Obama administration attempted to go to war with a rancher in Nevada. Let me amplify a little bit of truth: They tucked tail and have returned home. And let me add a bit of clarity: they had no choice! As the nation began to become familiar with the plight of the family of Cliven Bundy, many of us harkened back to another standoff in which the Federal government attempted to bully it´s outcome: Waco, Texas and the Branch Davidian massacre. It is telling that in the Nevada case the feds pulled out so

President Obama stands by Rev. Al Sharpton
while accusing Republicans of trying
to restrict the right to vote

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New York Daily News, by Celeste Katz & Annie Karni    Original Article
Posted By: Flyright- 4/12/2014 7:02:39 AM     Post Reply
President Obama stood Friday with the Rev. Al Sharpton and accused Republicans of trying to keep millions of Americans from voting, in a fiery speech days after new revelations about Sharpton’s past as an FBI informant. “The right to vote is threatened today in a way that it has not been since the Voting Rights Act became law nearly five decades ago,” Obama told the annual convention of Sharpton’s National Action Network in Manhattan. Obama’s appearance represented a presidential seal of approval of Sharpton’s role as a civil rights activist, amid the new revelations about how Sharpton used a wire to record

Why Hillary v. Jeb Would
Be Great for America

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Daily Beast, by Mark McKinnon    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/13/2014 6:11:32 PM     Post Reply
They’re both qualified, respectful of each other (shocker!), and represent the vast majority of middle America. So what’s not to like about another Clinton/Bush race for 2016? When you mention the prospect of Clinton vs. Bush 2016 a funny thing happens. First, there is the reflexive response: "Oh no, not again. We don´t need more dynastic politics in this country." But upon further reflection, you realize Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton would be a great race and actually good for the country. Let´s review. QUALIFICATIONS—THEY’VE BOTH GOT THEM. Barack Obama won the presidency because in an election where the premium was on change, it mattered little

The world must shift to solar and wind
power rapidly to avoid catastrophic global
warming, say UN scientists in major report

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Ben Spencer    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/13/2014 7:15:31 PM     Post Reply
A rapid shift to wind and solar power is needed if the world is to avoid catastrophic global warming, the United Nations warns in a crucial report today. Emissions of greenhouse gases need to be cut by up to 70 per cent before 2050 to control climate change, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) says. ‘Large-scale changes in energy systems’ are required, with coal power stations to be switched off and replaced by wind and solar. And the transformation needs to be made in the next 15 years or controlling climate change will become increasingly harder and more expensive. The report was published

Goodbye tea party, hello big tent
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Washington Post, by Jennifer Rubin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/13/2014 5:08:01 AM     Post Reply
Say what you will about Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), but they know a train wreck when they see it. They also know when to separate themselves from the cranks and the losers on the right. Although both supported the shutdown and were heartily supported by tea party groups in their own Senate races, neither one has endorsed Matt Bevin in Kentucky, Milton Wolf in Kansas or Chris McDaniel in Mississippi. In fact, Cruz’s office confirms he hasn’t endorsed anyone in the primaries. He may weigh in after the primaries. Rand Paul has endorsed two very establishment

Nevada GOP removes social issues from platform,
moves ahead with pre-primary endorsements

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Associated Press, by Sandra Chereb    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/13/2014 3:48:58 PM     Post Reply
LAS VEGAS — The Nevada Republican Party stripped opposition to abortion and gay marriage from its platform Saturday as state convention delegates instead focused on judging fellow Republicans on their worthiness to serve in office and adherence to GOP values. The platform, with few changes, was adopted overwhelmingly as the Las Vegas convention stretched late into the evening. The vote mirrors that of the Clark County GOP, which voted earlier to remove platform language defining marriage as between a man and a woman and statements opposing abortion. Many Republicans are re-evaluating their strong stances on conservative social issues as public

Video: Flash mob of women steal
$20,000 worth of sunglasses
from California store

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New York Daily News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 4/13/2014 10:50:38 AM     Post Reply
A brazen flash mob has been caught on camera storming a California store and making off with $20,000 worth of sunglasses. Surveillance footage shows eight women piling into a Sunglass Hut and crowding around display cases. Shielding workers from what they´re doing, they quickly stuff dozens of fashion specs into their bags. A store clerk pleads with them to stop, before running out of the shot to get help and dial 911. The thieves then all bolt outside and escape in a waiting SUV. The incident occurred at the Valencia Town Center mall, in Santa Clarita, at 3 p.m. on

Democrat Center Folds
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American Thinker, by Clarice Feldman    Original Article
Posted By: real fifi- 4/13/2014 7:44:30 AM     Post Reply
It’s hardly been a secret that in recent years the moderate center of the Democrat party has been driven away and what remains is a conglomeration of disparate blocs which, to date, the party has been able to treat as if there were no conflicting interests between them. As the midterm elections approach and the administration’s incompetence, along with the distaste for the president’s signature ObamaCare legislation, drive the party’s chances down further, the make-believe coalition of opposites may well crumble if the opposition doesn’t blow it. Democrats hope to retain control of the Senate and recapture the House by driving

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