In a story that has remained largely under the mainstream media radar, Congress announced late last month that it would finally investigate the Aug. 6, 2011 helicopter crash in Afghanistan that resulted in 38 deaths, including 22 members of SEAL Team 6, made famous three months earlier when they killed Osama Bin Laden. Grieving family members insist that soldiers in the elite unit were placed in unnecessary danger by the recklessness of the Obama administration, whose actions they characterized as criminal. “We’re going to dive into this,” said Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT),
When you have a President with absolutely no background or understanding of how our military services work, this is what happens. Look for more of this stuff with Hillary.
Obama doesn´t know nor does he care...they are just toy soldiers to be thrown around a map at his whim and to stand behind him when he needs a photo op. Last week he threatened what would happen to their benefits if the horrible Republicans continue to reduce the size of government.
The one thing Conservatives WON´T cut is the military because unlike liberals, every conservative knows someone serving.
Good Luck, Jason Chaffetz, so far none of your investigations have done anything more than tell a story the president calls "phony."
Someone gave this crazy order to put all these valuable special ops people on one helicopter which is basically a transport one,I think.Then you have double agents inside Karsai´s inner circle who could have tipped the taliban off but´s still way too convienent.
What´s even more sickening is this notion tht Obama cares about people,no he cares about himself only.
From Iowahawk: "Let Bo ride on the press plane with the rest of Obama´s pets." We happened to be watching 60 Minutes last night investigating some drug company, and all I could think was why can´t the press give this corrupt administration one-tenth the scrutiny...
Well, excuse my tinfoil bonnet, but seems to me Seal Team 6 knew more than anybody about what went on during the bin Laden raid... Maybe the administration didn´t want inconvenient --and embarrassing-- truth getting out eventually? Just sayin´. There is a favorite saying bandied about around this house: Never ascribe to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity. With the 0bama administration, it is hard to say which.
If we knew the truth behind one tenth of these "phony scandals" your head would explode. So, you see, that part of Obama Care´s promise to reduce health care premiums is in keeping the ugly truth from ever rising to the surface! Otherwise we would all end up in the rubber room, babbling to ourselves about the latest knife to the heart of America. I read a columnist the other day, I forget which one, who said he was optimistic that Obama could not destroy the US. We would recover and just remark on how it was that such a stain could inhabit the White House. I just hope he is right.
The Administration can get away with this kind of thing OVER AND OVER because the Press is totally complicit----simple as that! You can go up and down the line and look at past (and even current) Republican mess ups (or not: Romney at 14 in a fight with a kid, the dog on the car roof, the woman dying of cancer after Baine took over, even though she had her own policy) and the huge fuss made and then the total ignoring of anything Democratic and CERTAINLY anything Obama....57 states being the least egregious. The Press should be deeply ashamed.......and yet they wonder why there is little respect for them now days and their readership is down to a trickle. If this were a George BUSH story it would headline every network news broadcast and newspaper.
...despite Obama saying he would look “very, very, very deep into this,” he never heard from the president again.
Surprised? Obama lies with such ease and makes empty promises with equal ease, no one should be surprised that his promises never get kept. What about "getting to the bottom" of Benghazi and "bringing the perpetrators to justice"? That went well, didn´t it?
Those documents contain the Defense Department’s assertion that they don’t believe the SEALs were targeted following the Bin Laden operation.
What is the Defense Dept. supposed to say? That they knew? The gov´t Agencies never admit when they FUBAR.
...contending it was “a lucky shot of a low-level fighter” who “happened to be in the right spot.”
The families aren’t buying that assessment, and they are extremely troubled by other questions surrounding the case as well.
...as we all are. We cannot trust this Administration and now, we cannot trust any government entity. How long must we wait for courage to emerge for the people of this nation? Must the people alive wait for the real Second Coming to get relief?
I have to agree with #9. The republicans have no spine - "go along, get along". I think the politicians are in it for themselves - life long health insurance etc after one term. Empty suits, empty chairs. If they want respect, then do something.
It´s painful to read this article, but I believe it to be true, unfortunately. It so infuriates and saddens me to think our ´leaders´ put these brave Americans´ lives in jeopardy in this cowardly and self-serving manner.
There have been too many instances of this administration seemingly favoring our foes while handicapping our own interests. I hope we get to the bottom of this ´soon´ - or at least some day.
Those who bend over backwards to defend and protect Obama and his administration regarding some of his deeply puzzling decisions and actions astound me. It´s absolutely chilling.
Ever since this targeted killing of our bravest occurred, I have lost all hope for this country. No media attended the first press conference at the capitol the SEAL parents held so I am happy that attention is being paid now, but my faith in Congress has faded completely. My deepest sympathy to the families. My gratitude to those of you who raised such fine men.
Oh, dear Lord. I remember when this happened, and thought it odd that it involved the same group of SEALs, but even I didn´t suspect this. Ye gods. Oh, Lord - bring about Your justice for these find men.
Its time. Enough of the outrage. If anyone in the media, and that includes Fox, doesn´t start to bang the drums on this, it will continue for another 3 years. Obama got what he wanted out of this, Bin Laden´s head, and he was re-elected with that as probably his only accomplishment.
Congress needs to be outraged and quit just "looking" into these scandals, and start screaming about it! The media will sweep it under the rug with all the rest of them. If someone in the military doesnt have cojones to come forward, then get ready for Hillary and the same sorry mess. We are doomed.
This un-Constitutional pResident is an evil, tyrannical, mullah-in-chief. There I said it, now collect that data and challenge my free speech rights, NSA, and audit my tax returns, IRS. The Federal Government can go to hell.
Snowden had to flee to Russia to get Asylum, yet Biden is still the Vice President, having revealed classified information and putting targets on the backs of our brave Navy Seals.
What really frightened me in this article was the concept that the substituted Afghans were Taliban. I had heard tis but just figured they were some shelps considered expendable. It never dawned on me that these Seals may have had to fight for their lives inside the helicopter of that they were suicide bombers.
Most disturbing however, is that the American public really doesn´t care. A majority of this country doesn´t know anyone in the military, nor do they know anyone injured or killed over the past 10 years. Unlike WWII, where everyone knew someone in the military and the country was united behind their "boys", most view these wars and the deaths as a concept, not reality.
Only true Americans really care about their sacrifices and their loss. The MSM are not true Americans or this would be headline news.
RIP Seals. You have served your country well, despite the fact that its´ leadership betrayed you.
Condolences to the families. May God bless you and keep you. Please continue to force this issue to the forefront. Hopefully, the truth will come out about the corruptness of this Administration. Given your willingness to fight for the truth, I can see how you raised such brave warriors.
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) makes a big stink then the stink goes away. Washington is lawless and the Republicans are all in the thick of it. A criminal junta is running this country and we are the enemy.
You can continue complaining about media bias on every post. However - if you still get your local newspaper - still watch NBC, CBS, ABC and channels they own - still listen to NPR - the complaints ring hollow to me.
The big question is were these brave Americans sold out by the Afghani government as payment to the Taliban for the death of bin Laden?”
Almost certainly. The bigger question is why weren´t we aware that exactly such a thing was likely to happen. Who packed such a large number of seal team members together in a vulnerable helicopter in a combat zone just after they got tagged as Bin Laden killers. Are we just stupid or did some one turn a blind eye.
Sadly, #9 is probably right. Although I can barely tolerate Michael Savage anymore, I do remember him screaming about this right after it happened. That this stunk to high heaven and 0bama and his regime allowed this to happen. What is so extremely disturbing is that 0bama and his merry band of Marxists know they can get away with their lawlessness because even if there are endless hearings it will take years and they will be long gone. I´ve never been as upset in my lifetime with what I see happening in this country. It´s so overwhelming and I feel completely helpless. I´m sure we aren´t even aware of half of the heinous things they have done or are doing.
Heart rendering. I don´t trust our leader or the todies who work under him. At one time in our history we had a media who would discover and reveal, a congress that would act and a majority of citizens who could see the light. I don´t know where we are headed, but I guess there is no going back.
I sent Rep Chavets. Had to use his address to send since I do not live in his district. This is pure D-evil. No doubt they were targeted by the Tahl-ee-Bohn. It makes me sick. Angry.No consequences for these ruthless, evil people. Oh, I forgot. Another "phoney scandal."
Finally!! PTL. I have been making posts about this ever since it happened. This was just too convenient and there were so many things about that flight to be an accident. Like in the clinton years, deaths piled up that the msm swept under the carpet...
We here at LCom can rant and rave about Obozo and company all we want and the Republicans in Congress can investigate all they want and attempt to tell their findings to the media, but, the bottom line is that any and all violations of the law have to be prosecuted thru the DOJ. And guess who runs the DOJ? The first two guesses don´t count. What has been set up here is the perfect way to do what ever you want, including outright murder, and not even be investigated for it much less prosecuted.
One of those killed was SEAL Jesse Pittman, from my small town in northern California. It is the small towns of America that are sending their sons into combat. The personal loss is still felt here, #24.
I am becoming further and further divorced from my government. I concur with #22 that the feds can go to hell. The social contract has been broken and I no longer am obligated to follow their edicts. I´m going to live my life, worship God, and pray for the courage to stand true to my Faith and my endowed liberties no matter what comes. Let me know when the shootin´ starts.
zero, family and the usual bunch of freeloading stooges are in martha´s vineyard. The so-called senate and house have deserted the American People. holder, his aiders and abetters are rewriting Federal Law. Our sell out media is so concerned about kissing liberal, socialist, marxist, communist, democrat and muslim butts, it will be a major wonder if we survive zero´s blundering of the U. S. A.
Interesting that what happened in Benghazi military had received a "stand down" order... and in this case they had also ordered a stand down. Troops were not allowed to protect our troops nor shoot at those who shot down the helicopter.
And they want to know why, during a funeral ceremony held at Bagram Air Base in Kabul, a Muslim cleric was allowed to recite a prayer condemning the American “infidels” to eternal damnation. (yet the name of Jesus must never be used by chaplains).
If you don´t yet have shivers down your spine about what is happen at all levels of this administration, you need help.
We often read about the president´s incompetence, but we must also note his absolute competence in matters like Benghazi and what happened to these Navy Seals. What did they know that he doesn´t want YOU to know?
Osama had been dead for years before the raid by the SEALS. Yeah, I wear a tin hat on this topic, and you will never be able to convince me otherwise..... Especially after 0bama had them throw the body of the schmoe they did shoot into the ocean.
The SEALS must have figured out that they had been used for yet another Tail Wag Dog exercise, and they had to go to preserve 0bama´s new image ´ as a heroic war leader who succeeded where Bush had not.
I have heard people in places with special knowledge agree that Bin Laden, the real one, died of natural causes many years ago, soon after 9/11. It is not too much of a stretch to believe that the ST6 were deliberately exterminated lest they revealed what really went down in Abbottabad, and who/what was dumped in the Indian Ocean a few hours later.
I guess if we really want to know we can ask Alex Jones.
A friend of mine who adores Jones said immediately after the "Osama Bin Laden has been killed & dumped in the ocean" incident that the SEAL team was going to be killed. I thought he was being his usual tin foil hat self, but I remembered when it happened.
Brutal reality: Our military men are willing to die for their country. Obama, et al., allowed (engineered?) this.
To Obama and his never-served cohorts, these red state patriots are merely cannon fodder. The U.S. military must be destroyed along with the country.
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we´ve set. We´ve got to have a civilian national security force that´s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." --- B. Hussein Obama, 2 July 2008 (off teleprompter comment)
Why else would the feds buy up all that hollow point ammo and offer $400,000 tanks and other military hardware to any burgh that wants this equipment?
The hardworking half of the country are in despair, as more and more of their lives are domineered by big gov.it seems that only a massive taxpayer strike or violent uprising will break the grip of this growing corruption. The decent people tend to peaceable. Who WILL raise He´ll? The freeloaders. Shut down the government and you shut off the unearned goodies. The riots will start within hours. Hope we have a leader ready to take over when the duds ransack Wash. DC.
SEAL Team Six is the original name of the Navy´s Counter-terrorism Unit, though its official name is currently the Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU). DEVGRU is a group level command within the Naval Special Warfare Command, but is operationally controlled by the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), which is a sub-unified command of the US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM).All operator applicants volunteer and are pulled from the other Navy SEAL Teams. The applicants are Navy SEAL operators with at least five years of experience in the Teams. You must be interviewed by a panel of DEVGRU operators and trainers in order to get invited to the selection team - also known as Green Team. This selection process takes 6-8 months of training and constant evaluation by the instructors. Usually less than 50% make the cut and allowed to join the operational squadrons within DEVGRU. Those who do not make it go back to their original SEAL teams.
Thats right. Most Navy Seals can´t even make Seal Team Six. I think someone wanted payback, and America provided it....You guess who. Someone with Muslim Brotherhood connections.
#41, at this point, what difference does it make??
In fact... why is that an "OR" question? Wouldn´t those two entities be an "AND"? Working together for the benefit of mankind, we´re sure... s/o
Also appreciate the comments, especially... #47 and #49 and #50 and #54 ....
O-Bomber is the Wannabe Kommie Dicktater in our midst, who is also, ironically... Pro-Muslim... Remember that back in the day, analysts said the USSR would be broken up by several factors, including Muslim opposition in many of the Republics to the atheistic rule of the Kommies...
Our insane corrupt Nero With a "G" manages to combine Communism and Islamofascism... Anything to destroy America as we´ve known it...
I have been told that shortly after WWII ended and the Trials in Neurenberg were about to begin, a group of men met with Sir Winston Churchill in London and drew up a list of names of Nazis and others who should have but were never going to trial. This group studied the lists of names and then adjourned. As the story goes, shortly after this happened, people who had been placed on that list began to die. Nothing was ever noted about it. Some had accidents, others died in their sleep. Some were out right shot and killed. By the end of 1949 most of the people on that list were dead. The group of men that handled the list of names allegedly went on to become what is known as the SAS in England. Some times one has to do what must be done for the good of all.
The moment I heard about the incident I knew it was no "accident". Common sense tells you not the put that many highly valued assets on one aircraft.....so who ordered it? And why? It was a set up from the gitgo. This administration has a lot of blood on it´s hands. God Bless the souls of those brave and dedicated men.
If you believe for one minute that the Congress of this United States will conduct a thorough, unbiased investigation on this incident, or any other incident related to this administration, then you´re a fool. Our politicians only care about reelection and not the preservation of our great nation! If a lying hag like Hillary Clinton can be the presumed Democrat presidential favorite in 2016 then our county doesn´t have a prayer. Man, have we lowered our standards!
Mr.Strange, Seal Michael´s father, told there are in fact 2 black boxes on those craft...and the "black boxes" are orange.
He also said the Seals did not die in the crash but were engaged in a firefight on the ground and his son´s picture showed his gun gripped in his hand.
Further backup was not allowed to give cover to the Seals, though they could have.
Mr. Strange also told his son was insistent for the first time on writing a will because the men knew they were being outed.
Obama would not and did not make the decision to get Bin Laden. It has been reported neither he nor Valerie Jarret were told in advance via wikileaks.
Initially, after the Bin Laden kill it was reported it was actually his equally tall son Hamzi that was killed. Hamzi was never seen again from that timeforward. It was also written by another Seal in "No Easy Day" that the Seals were amazed Bin Laden was so youthful and strong with thick Dark hair...unusual for a man on dialysis for 10 years ...thus not believable it was Bin Laden.
Perhaps that Seal author who left the service immediately knew what others suspected and let out hints via his unauthorised book that the Pentagon went ballistic over...
It remains curious that these seals and those murdered in Benghazi were all cremated before coming home...where evidence has been hidden or lost.
I think Michael Savage has done more than anyone to try to bring this story to the attention of the American people on his radio show, since right after the helicopter shootdown in Afghanistan happened. Michael was asking all the pertinent questions - why were so many Navy Seals put on one big single lumbering Vietnam-war-era helicopter? Who were the 6 Afghan soldiers placed on board the helicopter at the last minute? Why were all the bodies cremated? Why were the Black Boxes never recovered? Why was backup help so slow in coming? Michael Savage can be acerbic but he raises the right questions most of the time. He is right now reporting that the 19 recent embassy closings were a "phony scandal" of the Obama regime. A Yemeni official has revealed that none of the reasons given for closing the embassies had any basis in fact. Savage calls the mainstream media "Rats" for cheerleading Obama and that is the truth.
Late posting I know, but just wanted to mention that Michael Savage reminded us that these brave men lost their lives flying in some ponderous Vietnam-era helicopter that was totally inappropriate for their mission, while the dog BO flew to Martha´s Vineyard in a state-of-the-art helicopter. The in-your-face thing has crossed the line from spitefulness to evil.
When the Pelosi-Reid-Obama troika triumphantly celebrated cramming through the ACA (Affordable Care Act) over majority sentiment, they crowed that this was the president´s signature achievement and ACA soon took on the name of its creator, ObamaCare. Though not one of them, nor any of the Democrats in the Senate who voted it into law uni-partisanly had read it, they all assured us that we´d grow to really, really like it. Boy, were they wrong.
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The historic IT disaster known as the Obamacare web site has been of intense interest to me, since I´ve been a Senior Software Engineer for decades, and I have personally participated in, witnessed, and reported on (as a technology reporter) a number of IT disasters. But even so, the size of the Obamacare web site catastrophe on October 1 still takes my breath away. When I first heard, shortly after October 1, that there was 500 million lines of code in Healthcare.gov, I quickly rejected that figure, because it´s impossible.
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A great deal of attention has been focused on the political fallout that Democrats in Congress will face because of their support for ObamaCare. Beyond video of Mary Landrieu in 2009 saying just what Obama was saying about people being allowed to keep their old health plans, surely the video of Nancy Pelosi that we had to "pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it" ought to be part of any Republican´s campaign against Democrats in the congressional midterm elections.
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