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How the Post Was Lost
New York Times, by Ross Douthat

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Posted By:Drive, 8/11/2013 8:43:18 PM

MANY American newspapers were doomed to decline from the moment the Internet arrived on personal computers. But The Washington Post, just sold off unexpectedly to Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, was never really one of them. This is something the sentimental send-offs for the Graham family and its stewardship tended to ignore. As disruptive as the Internet has been for journalism, The Post was uniquely positioned to succeed amid the chaos.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: avital2, 8/11/2013 9:01:55 PM     (No. 9469187)

here is one Angeleno who does not "trust" the LATimes. are you serious, Douthat? you´re out of touch. if Bezos can restore journalism to its purist form - by creating a paper in which i cannot espy bias except on the editorial/op-ed pages, i will subscribe. there is a market for that, i believe.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Bohallx, 8/11/2013 9:09:59 PM     (No. 9469190)

Seriously, there´s no market for THAT. Never has been.

Never will be.

Sure, there are those who say that´s what they want but it´s like the surveys of folks who liked HDTV before everything was HDTV, and cheap LEDs.

The questions were always couched in language that addressed the quality of HDTV, not the cost! So, everybody loved HDTV but they weren´t going to spend $3,752.89 for one of ´em.

We really don´t want to pay for integrity in news or opinion. We want it to all hang out, warts and all, fabrications, photoshopped pictures, etc. Instead give us an array of different points of view on our 999,999 channels of internet traffic.

Isn´t that what the Founders fought for? That every man and woman could be an editor, a writer, a publisher of renown.

we don´t need no steenking papers ~ just a video display unit and a keyboard.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Jennie C., 8/11/2013 9:11:00 PM     (No. 9469191)

SINCE the author brings up internet-based newspapers/ news-sites, I would just like to submit an item of trivia.

The first online newspaper anywhere (by that I mean, a dead-tree newspaper that appeared online), was, tra-la, tra-la, the Columbus Dispatch courtesy of, You Guessed It!, CompuServe, in about 1980.

(and if you recognize You Guessed It!, you were there, several years later)

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Reply 4 - Posted by: TexMeg, 8/11/2013 9:33:45 PM     (No. 9469201)

off subject: I loved - and miss - CompuServe!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 8/11/2013 9:40:02 PM     (No. 9469208)

The Times whistles past the graveyard - - unaware that the Grim Reaper has its name at the top of his To Do list.

Be afraid, Pinchie - - be VERY afraid.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Cardsfan, 8/11/2013 9:47:14 PM     (No. 9469217)

Breaking news: "Pot calls kettle black"!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: HicksvilleKid59, 8/11/2013 10:30:35 PM     (No. 9469254)

There is no loss.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 8/11/2013 10:37:21 PM     (No. 9469264)

Douthat completely misses the point. How the Post was lost has nothing at all to do with some vague internet competition. It is not "Dead Tree" journalism vs "Electron" and "LED" journalism. It is content and it has always been content and it will always be content. All these rags have to offer is information- fair, balanced, accurate, truthful information. Why didn´t Douthat comapre the ´National Peper" or news forum to the most successful "Electron" forum, ´The Drudge Report´? Becasue he would, in his heart of hearts, just love it to be that liberal yellow journalism can actually fly. The record of such propaganda arms of the Rat Party have an avbsolutely dismal proven rate of failure! From Air America to the NY Times and the Wa-Post and the gloomy ratings of alphabit networks, any idiot can see, Americans don´t want to pay for lies and filth shoved down their throats daily. Looking at the glaring successes of conservative talk radio and fair and balanced Fox, it should not take a "Haarvaard" econcomics grad to see the why of the Post´s dismal stream of lost millions!

But, they want such success so badly, they simply refuse to speak of the "Why". it will never happen. They want their "Santa Clause" and by god, they mean to have him be real no matter what reality says!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 8/11/2013 10:44:46 PM     (No. 9469269)

If Douthat has a point I missed it. Let me try. Nancy Pelosi don´t need no stinkin´ newspaper, she and her fellow Democrats run the country on cheap tequila and half-remembered rhymes from their long-ago childhoods. And WaPo hasn´t printed anything of interest to a Republican for twenty years.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: sudmuf, 8/12/2013 1:57:14 AM     (No. 9469359)

Typically, The New York Slimes makes no mention of Breitbart, The Daily Caller, Red stare. NRO, or Weekly Standard and others.


BTW..... Something like this will happen to the LA Times and the New York Times too.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: SmallDog, 8/12/2013 2:41:54 AM     (No. 9469371)

Oh - Yes - The Globe was doing so well that it sold for 70 million after being purchased for 1.4 billion.

Great return - Typical liberal thinking.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Japanorama, 8/12/2013 2:52:17 AM     (No. 9469377)

Guess who´s next, NYT?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: chiller, 8/12/2013 7:24:27 AM     (No. 9469480)

Aside from blatant content and bias issues, Douhat explains the headline perfectly. The Washington Post could have become Politico...which I assume is successful since it´s still kicking 5 years on.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: StormCnter, 8/12/2013 7:36:33 AM     (No. 9469492)

Of course, there are many reasons why not only the Post, but other newspapers are struggling or have folded, altogether. Didn´t most of us grow up with a newspaper at the breakfast table? Before the alphabets´ evening news on television, there was the newspaper and radio. Then, TV news encroached to the point that a lot of the print media disappeared, particularly in the big city highly-competitive markets. When the Internet became accessible to us and we could read dozens of varying opinions and articles on a daily basis much more rapidly and up-to-the minute, the familiar rolled paper landing on our lawns became a dinosaur. Talk radio and Fox introduced us to alternative viewpoints to what we had read and heard before. Now, there is little room for a liberal mouthpiece such as the Post. Too many of us have come to distrust its content and hardly any of us are willing to pay for it or advertise in it. The Post was not "lost", so much as it was left with too little oxygen to survive.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 8/12/2013 7:38:22 AM     (No. 9469493)

If folks insist on killing trees on my behalf, I only need my crosswords, my comics and my want-ads. You can keep the other stuff. REAL news, I can get from Lucianne.com.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: MattMusson, 8/12/2013 7:50:39 AM     (No. 9469508)

By 2020 the Washington Post and the New York Times will consist entirely of two middle aged women posting on FaceBook.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 8/12/2013 7:56:17 AM     (No. 9469516)

Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: jackburton, 8/12/2013 8:16:14 AM     (No. 9469546)

I used to deliver the papers and while still in my teens, looking over the layout of the pages and the space given to everything, I concluded that the papers were paid for by advertising.

The internet makes it possible for more advertising to be better targeted. Less money. More result. Papers that don´t have a reason to exist, that can´t compete well enough to deliver a market to the advertisers, go out of business.

Further, when papers ignore or insult half (or more) of their market, they DESERVE to go out of business.

I disagree with the poster that ´viewpoints´ are always present and can´t be excluded. Facts are facts. It´s the ´progressive´ point of view that EVERYthing is political. You know, your garden has to be ´sustainable´ or ´organic´ or the right people don´t get (x) and let´s talk next about your car or your toilet or put a slant on the Civil War. Nah. Facts are facts. Papers are failing because liberal harangues don´t have a market; facts do.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Jebediah, 8/12/2013 8:26:46 AM     (No. 9469565)

Go ahead Russ, at your desk at the NY Times. Once again blame the Net et al for the lack of readership (and viewership at the Networks) and never once look at the fact that you all have proven to be so biased and so untrustworthy, especially with anything concerning Barack Obama, that vast numbers of people now simply discount you, period! E.G. more scandals than stars in the heavens, and yet the press is more than willing to let the President actually contradict his own earlier statements and call them phony and let a D.C. press conference question focus on what Obama and Hillary ate for lunch! The chickens will come home to roost, have already come home to a great degree, for the Press. Unfortunately, our inept President will make big speaking fee bucks and get all the adulation he craves after he leaves office. He will win and they will deservedly lose----"where do you go to get your reputation back?"

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ivehadit, 8/12/2013 8:33:57 AM     (No. 9469577)

Exactly 16!! LOL!

The ivory towers are crashing. Boohoo.

One thing though, are Britain´s rags flourishing?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: ivehadit, 8/12/2013 8:43:10 AM     (No. 9469591)

One word of caution though-we need things in print for authenticity..the digital world is too easily manipulated and controlled, IMHO.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Calvinesq, 8/12/2013 8:56:08 AM     (No. 9469613)

Just wait till all the employees at the NYTimes and WaPo become part-timers (29.5 hrs. per week) because of Obamacare.

These two rags own Obamacare along with the Dems.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: OperaBuff, 8/12/2013 9:50:05 AM     (No. 9469691)

I played my small part in the WaPo´s demise by never visiting their web site, never buying their newspaper, and never clicking on a WaPo link. Not even here on Lucianne. Same for the NY Times. You´re welcome.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: mickturn, 8/12/2013 10:06:08 AM     (No. 9469724)

One word: LIES

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Reply 25 - Posted by: mickturn, 8/12/2013 10:07:32 AM     (No. 9469726)

...takin´ out the trash!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Arby, 8/12/2013 10:33:22 AM     (No. 9469767)

How about the fact that no one can believe them anymore?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Butch59, 8/12/2013 11:52:00 AM     (No. 9469903)

FTA: "As disruptive as the Internet has been for journalism". I saw red when I read this. The internet didn´t disrupt journalism, you did it to yourself. "Journalists came to believe that they were the purveyors of all truth and knowledge and that everything had to be "filtered" through them in order to prevent the unwashed from getting the wrong idea or slant on any subject. The internet simply opened far too many doors for the liberal newspapers to combat. Hopefully, we will seen the day, sometime soon, that there are no more liberal rags to be found. At least it would prevent the cutting down of millions of trees.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: billa, 8/12/2013 11:59:32 AM     (No. 9469917)

Internet is just more competition, not the cause of WA Post´s demise (as well as to be felt by a lot more papers).

Liberal bias journalism is so outdated that modern thinking people are totally fed up with outright lieing and fraud - much like the fake prez.

Geez, The Enquirer has more credibility than 90% of large city dailies.

May they go the way of the carriage and buggy.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: octrojan, 8/12/2013 12:20:42 PM     (No. 9469954)

You´re being a little hard on the author, who isn´t a left-wing looney. He´s agreeing with many of you when he notes that Politico delivers better political news (although with a lefty-slant) and that there are newspapers that are thriving--WSJ, for instance.

But as many note here, if the Post isn´t going to "tell truth to power," to use that annoying phrase, what good is it?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Rafter, 8/12/2013 2:17:57 PM     (No. 9470156)

When eventually The Newd Dork Slimez and the Washington Post merge to shave costs
in the face of declining circulations...

They will together be known as...
The ComPost... (as noted by others here)...
Which is a combination of...
Communist (NYT) and WaPost...

And they will be headed by Spitzer-Weiner...

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Japanorama, 8/12/2013 3:46:34 PM     (No. 9470295)

Americans won´t pay to read anti-American screeds.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: tatterdemalion, 8/12/2013 6:58:57 PM     (No. 9470549)

As fun and satisfying as it is to indulge, the taunting of leftist financial disaster is fruitless. It is totally besides the point when ideological purity is at stake.

(Hollywood does the same thing, albeit at a slower pace since MUCH more money is involved.)

The media leftist media will cannibalize itself with Darwinian fervor as its physical assets shrink. But consider, for all its profitability, has the leftist medias´ influence diminished? No, they managed to elect Clinton and Obama twice each during the internet boom. What´s that tell you?

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Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
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WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
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Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Ann Coulter takes up ‘Mitt
Romney for President’ chant again

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Conservative columnist Ann Coulter — who used her talk show platform in the last presidential election cycle to campaign hard for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — has taken up the mantra once again, calling on Republicans to give the failed White House bidder another shot in 2016. She made the suggestion during a discussion on Sean Hannity’s radio show while speaking of her new book, “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican.” Ms. Coulter also addressed the question of Mr. Romney’s shortcomings by saying that his 2012 loss wasn’t entirely his fault. “I think too much blame, not only in this

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