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U.S. scientists make official
statement claiming that man IS to
blame for global warming - despite
data being ´inconclusive´

Daily Mail (U.K.), by Ellie Zolfagharifard

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 8/6/2013 5:55:39 PM

The American Geophysical Union has definitively linked climate change to humanity’s reliance on fossil fuels. In a statement, the Union said that humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. It claimed that human-caused increases in greenhouse gases are responsible for most of the observed global average surface warming of roughly 0.8°C (1.5°F) over the past 140 years. ´There is only one thing that is going straight up … that is the greenhouse gases that we are just pumping at an exponential rate,´ Gerald North, an atmospheric scientist at Texas A&M

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: dirtydave, 8/6/2013 6:11:27 PM     (No. 9461523)

FTA: Speaking to Georgia Tech climate scientist Judith Curry, Pielke said the statement was an inaccurate view of climate change dominated by the emission of carbon dioxide and a few other greenhouse gases.
He said that during the review process, other views were never given an adequate opportunity to be discussed.

In other words, we don´t need no stinkin´ evidence. We will get enough grant money to fund a lavish retirement if we claim to blame humanity for a fuzzy concept called climate change.

Is anything today not political?


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Reply 2 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 8/6/2013 6:13:27 PM     (No. 9461526)

Once again underscoring the universal truism - - - -

All leftists are lairs. If they weren´t liars - - they wouldn´t be leftists.

Ain´t it amazing how all this glo-bull warming stuff - - which was dormant for years - - not even called glo-bull warming any more - - starts crawling out from the woodwork as soon as Zippy gives the cue?

I despise leftist liars.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: MERLIN251, 8/6/2013 6:16:46 PM     (No. 9461529)

There is a world of difference between hard science and political science, and the scientific method certainly doesn´t include consensus. The end of the fiscal year is rapidly approaching, and grants for research don´t go to honest scientists, sorry, climate deniers!!!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: JediJerry, 8/6/2013 6:24:28 PM     (No. 9461538)

Did they consider greenhouse gasses escaping from undersea as well as above ground volcanic activity? Do they know and understand The Milankovitch Cycles? The answers are No, and No. Their conclusion is meaningless inconclusive inaccurate and unpersuasive. No cigar for you.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: ruready?, 8/6/2013 6:30:48 PM     (No. 9461549)

The truth is not up for a vote.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 8/6/2013 6:30:53 PM     (No. 9461551)

When I was a kid growing up, my dad liked to garden. He liked yard work so much that he set up this little plexiglass house in the back so he could grow his plants better and faster.

That little house was a blessing for him, because it worked to give his seedlings and new plants a healthy start in life. It seemed to have its own little climate, moisture evaporating up to the ceiling, and recondensing into little moisture droplets that dripped back down on the plants that gave it off in the first place.

How cool, I used to think.... what a neat little place. I learned about life and the world from that little house, and of course it was called....

The Greenhouse. Those ´gases´ created in that little house HELPED THOSE PLANTS LIVE and grow.

I resent the use of the term ´greenhouse gases´ now to symbolize something bad.

Other than that little skip down memory lane, as far as this article is concerned....

Yawn.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rafter, 8/6/2013 6:41:11 PM     (No. 9461564)

Johnny Football has more credibility at Texas A & M than some lying climate joker
who makes things up.

No one is going to pay good money for the autograph of Gerald North or any other
lying climate faker.

You can take that to the bank.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: tennisbum, 8/6/2013 6:41:22 PM     (No. 9461565)

As Dan Rather would say "fake but true". Where do they find these so-called scientists!! LOL

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Safari Man, 8/6/2013 6:53:44 PM     (No. 9461576)

Well, to be more specific, by "man" we mean "the man", ie white heterosexual conservative Christian capitalist males.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: udanja99, 8/6/2013 7:11:59 PM     (No. 9461589)

The grant money must be drying up. Time to start a new "the Sky is Falling" panic.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 8/6/2013 7:18:35 PM     (No. 9461593)

If they need grant money they should submit their papers to study the Yaqui Indians in Southern Arizona and their use of hallucinogenic mushroom...like a certain PhD from University of Arizona who lives like a king in Mexico "studying" the Indians and their religion...

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Reply 12 - Posted by: god of irony, 8/6/2013 7:29:44 PM     (No. 9461603)

They lost me after the fist sentence. Union doesn´t equal science and fuels aren´t derived from fossils.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: craige, 8/6/2013 7:45:58 PM     (No. 9461619)

It´s not just Earth.
The climate on Mars is heating up too.
It´s amazing how much influence human beings have.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: JimBob, 8/6/2013 8:21:17 PM     (No. 9461661)

I would like to postulate that the greatest correlation is the one between the amount of claimed ´man made warming´ and the amount of Federal government grant money

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Reply 15 - Posted by: dman, 8/6/2013 8:33:51 PM     (No. 9461668)

Once upon a time, "scientists" being politically correct insisted that the world was flat.

I was trained in the scientific method. I don´t give a rat´s behind about opinions. Show me the proof.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: fiddle ed, 8/6/2013 8:57:26 PM     (No. 9461693)

That´s their story and they´re sticking to it.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: stablemoney, 8/6/2013 9:24:31 PM     (No. 9461710)

Humans are the cause of the increase in trash over the last 50 years. What of it?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 8/6/2013 9:25:35 PM     (No. 9461712)

When "science" decides that facts and proof no longer matter, science has no meaning. More and more, liberal scientists postulate a theory, like Globull Warming and think their job is done, simply by creating a theory. The media takes the theory as proven fact. A theory is only the BEGINNING of scientific investigation. Until it is proven it is only someone´s opinion, no matter how well informed. As contrary proof is discovered, theories must be reformed to accommodate the new information. However, the liberal scientist just throws out a new unproven speculation and THAT is then treated as fact. The best liberal practice is to push the event horizon out 100 years or more so that proof or disproof is not possible and then to insist on urgent action in support of their unproven theory.

At some point, the average person begins to lose confidence in ALL science because of the agenda driven liberal science. Real problems are dismissed with the fake and things can become very bad.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: TexasRed, 8/6/2013 9:30:57 PM     (No. 9461717)

A&M just removed itself from serious consideration as a major scientific institution by lining up at the enviro-statists trough of free grant money. No serious scientist can consider man as the sole contributor to climate change. Earthquakes, volcano releases, millions and billions of lightning strikes, methane releases from the ocean floor, and the polar caps far overshadow any contribution by man.
It´s a money scheme and I am ashamed of A&M for being part of it.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bmw50, 8/6/2013 9:43:40 PM     (No. 9461733)

As America turns further and further away from God, the further they get away from truth. The left, the media and the Democrat Party has taken the stand that we don´t need God; what we need is more of them (government and marketing). That is called pride and that is what caused the fall in the Garden and it´s what is causing the fall of this nation today.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and pride comes before the fall and most Americans are choosing pride.
When people turn away from God and elevate themselves to deity status, there is no limit to what they will say or do the have their way. Their agenda and narrative takes precedence over truth, logic and facts. It is hard to imagine, but the people who have no fear of God have no sense of right and wrong; they go hand-in-hand. Without that knowledge, they are left to make choices and take stands based one what they think is best for them, not based on what is right or wrong. In fact, right and wrong doesn´t enter into the equation, only their self-serving interests.
They don´t know and they don´t know they don´t know, but they are making decisions that are destroying this nation. They don´t care because they are getting rich and gaining power and influence.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: uno, 8/6/2013 9:51:32 PM     (No. 9461746)

I don´t need any facts when I see disingenuous, proven liars like the Obamboozler, Joe Biden (quite possibly the dumbest elected official ever) and Al Gore promoting it. People like them were selling snake oil 100 years ago!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: BadgerBill, 8/6/2013 10:23:10 PM     (No. 9461793)

If some entity gave me $5M to say that the sun rose in the west--and published info that sort of, kind of, maybe supported some twisted, pretzel so-called logic (do I sound like a liberal?) to ´support´ such...would I do it?

You bet! East Angia U. here I come!!!

To a liberal, money trumps e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g.---especially O.P.M.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: reddfroge, 8/6/2013 10:26:21 PM     (No. 9461795)

when will the ´sheep´ wake up and realize that all of this is about control over every aspect of your life....it has NOTHING to do about ´climate´ or ´heathcare´

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Reply 24 - Posted by: jglas, 8/7/2013 3:57:43 PM     (No. 9463096)

1. Man generates a lot of CO2 and emits it into the atmosphere.

2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas that allows the atmosphere to retain more heat from the sun. Each additional unit of CO2 adds to the warming in a precisely calculable manner at a logarithmic rate. That is each additional unit adds a smaller increment of warming than the previous unit.

3. That amount has been calculated and at the current level a doubling of CO2 (say from 400ppm to 800ppm) adds 1.8C or 3.24F warming to the atmosphere. At the current rate it will take more than a century for a doubling of CO2. That´s not catastrophic warming.

4. But there are feedback effects. Warming causes water to evaporate and water vapor is a greenhouse gas too. The theory is that this will cause much more severe warming. Climate scientists argue about what the atmospheric warming sensitivity to CO2 is given the effects of water vapor. That´s where they come up with catastrophic numbers.

Here´s my point. Even the climate catastrophe skeptics agree with points 1, 2, and 3. They don´t agree with number 4. In fact some research indicates the feedback effect is even negative because clouds reflect sunlight and water vapor convection through clouds rising transport heat high in the atmosphere where it radiates off into space. Nobody knows the real sensitivity number but since global temperature hasn´t risen in 17 years while CO2 has continued to climb the hypothesis that water vapor actually has a negative feedback (to counter CO2 warming) is strengthened. That, of course, is heresy in the church of global warming.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: formerlyphelps, 8/7/2013 4:36:49 PM     (No. 9463138)

FTA: “He concluded: ‘The relative role of each in altering atmospheric and ocean circulation features, and even the global annual average radiative forcing, however, is still uncertain.’

And we are freaking out because? Somehow this statement doesn’t jive with the headline.

If the entire population of the globe stood shoulder to shoulder, we would not cover the state of Rhode Island. The emissions produced by mankind are infinitesimal compared to natural processes. Yet we are throwing the world out of balance, and the only thing we can do is raise taxes?

The absurdity is enough to raise the temperature of the globe.


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As President Obama spoke of old "wounds” at Fort Hood this week, the White House declined a request from a survivor of the 2009 massacre there to meet with Obama for a few minutes so the veteran could explain face-to-face how he believes the government has mistreated and disrespected the victims of that attack. Staff Sgt. Alonzo Lunsford (ret.) was shot seven times in November 2009 when Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Hasan opened fire at Fort Hood, killing 13 people. Despite Hasan’s admission that he carried out the attack on behalf of the Taliban and revelations that he had been

Jeb Bush defends ‘act of love’
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Politico, by Maggie Haberman    Original Article
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STAMFORD, Conn. — Jeb Bush defended his controversial comments about immigration reform, insisting they were nothing new for him and urging “sensitivity to the immigrant experience.” At a Connecticut Republican party dinner Thursday night, the former Republican governor of Florida did not repeat his remarks from last weekend at his father’s presidential library, when he said that people who come to the United States illegally in search of a better life for their children “broke the law, but it’s not a felony. It’s an act of love.” This time the potential 2016 candidate put it differently. “To be young and

Media-Suppressed Nevada Case History
Shines Truth on Government Ranch invaders

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Canada Free Press, by Judi McLeod    Original Article
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Coming clearly through the throbbing of helicopters and the roar of the SUVS of the feds harassing the Cliven Bundy Ranch, patriots there for Bundy should “tell it to the judge”. There is mainstream media-suppressed case history in Nevada the feds are desperately trying to keep under wraps. Chief Judge Robert C. Jones of the Federal District Court of Nevada smacked down high-handed, abusive feds, sending the pretend cowboys riding roughshod over Western ranchers and property owners back to their cobweb-laced offices in 2013. In spite of their 200 armed snipers with boy toys in tow, those Stetson-wearing feds hunkering down on Cliven


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