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Newt Gingrich rethinks
neoconservative views on
U.S. military interventions

Washington Times, by Ralph Z. Hallow

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 8/4/2013 10:27:44 PM

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a leading neoconservative hawk and staunch supporter of Israel, says the U.S. military interventions he has long supported to promote democracy in the Middle East and elsewhere have backfired and need to be re-evaluated. “I am a neoconservative. But at some point, even if you are a neoconservative, you need to take a deep breath to ask if our strategies in the Middle East have succeeded,” the 2012 Republican presidential hopeful said in an interview.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Axeman, 8/4/2013 10:32:51 PM     (No. 9458601)

Neo-conservative = Liberal lite.
The only way to win a war is to utterly defeat the enemy in such a way that no one will try to challenge you again. Then absorb and change the survivors, eliminating the philosophy that led to the trouble in the first place.
Tell me how the Neo-cons were trying to do this...

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ruready?, 8/4/2013 10:36:38 PM     (No. 9458604)

Like I said on an earlier thread, the United States hasn´t fought a good war since television was invented. The MSM has seen to that. If we spent as much money drilling as we have on fighting with one hand tied behind our backs because of the liberals, we would be energy independent and the middle east would be broke and rioting and fighting each other. Obama is too big an imbecile to trust with an all powerful military, seal teams and drones. Newt has a point.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 8/4/2013 10:47:35 PM     (No. 9458611)

We could have gone into Iraq and left in a month. This business of storming a country, winning the war, and then hanging around getting picked apart at the cost of thousands of soldiers, is incomprehensible.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: FormerNYer, 8/4/2013 11:05:01 PM     (No. 9458618)

A peaceful middle east? Are you kidding, not only do muslims hate Jews and Christians the sunnis hate the shiites. The turks hate the iranians and aren´t crazy about the syrians and don´t forget the saudis have no love for anybody, the whole place is a mess and God Bless Israel.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: AnnG, 8/4/2013 11:55:31 PM     (No. 9458665)

We won the wars, but lost the peace.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 8/5/2013 12:04:46 AM     (No. 9458673)

Precisely #3... Shock and Awe and Exit!

Win decisively... 2 Chron. 13:17, "Then Abijah and his people struck them with a great slaughter; so five hundred thousand choice men of Israel fell slain... the children of Judah prevailed, because they relied on the LORD God of their fathers."

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 8/5/2013 12:10:45 AM     (No. 9458675)

People throw around the ´neocon´ epithet and don´t have the first clue what the word means.

NEO = New- or newly- (in this case , new conservative or, newly conservative.)

When was Newt Gingrich a liberal? Or, when did he recently become a conservative?

He seemed pretty conservative when he created the Contract with America in the 90s.

So, how long do you have to havve been a conservative before you´re no longer a NEO conservative, hmmmmmm?



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Reply 8 - Posted by: locarno, 8/5/2013 1:17:55 AM     (No. 9458702)

The strategy of attempting to ´export democracy´ is doomed to fail every time. We should not engage in any conflict unless our strategic interests are at stake. Once the decision is made, then we go in with clearly defined and achievable goals along with a timeline for ending the conflict on OUR terms.

If more people would study Sun Tzu before taking action, conflicts would not be as messy and convoluted as they have become.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: franq, 8/5/2013 8:06:45 AM     (No. 9458912)

I wholeheartedly agree with #2 and 8. I would like to add another reason for war, however, and that would be to stop oppression. The problem with that idea, however, is that oppressors are like cockroaches. Kill one and 20 come to take their place.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 8/5/2013 10:43:48 AM     (No. 9459139)

#7...it is fairly easy to research the usage of neocon or neoconservative in this context...it was originally coined as a SELF description by a small group of military/foreign policy thinkers who were for the most part former liberal Democrats, few of whom have never served in the US military, and who for the most part retain their liberal thinking on domestic matters...their focus is on US policies towards Israel and the Middle East, and they played tug of war with the US approach to Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Pakistan during the past two administrations...

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