Common sense tells me that cops don´t need a Taser or a shotgun to subdue a 95-year-old man. When John Wrana was a young man, fit and strong and fighting in World War II with the U.S. Army Air Corps, did he ever think he´d end this way? Just a few weeks shy of his 96th birthday, in need of a walker to move about, cops coming through the door of his retirement home with a Taser and a shotgun.
Recently, there have been many incidents of no threat citizen contacts that result in bad injuries. Local police now dress as para-military and act as such. Anyone want to tell their kids to go to a policeman for help?
This is an egregious use of excessive force. Whatever happened to the compassionate cop who calms a feeble old man down. Two foot long shoehorn? I´ve got one of those. Maybe I should hide it somewhere before someone calls the cops on me. What´s up with the staff calling in the cops for an agitated 95 year old man? How ´bout giving him a sedative and calming him down nicely. Maybe some fool orderly needs a little on the job training here. This is so wrong on so many levels I´m stunned.
Horrifying. I´m an RN with 30 years experience, and have dealt with many elderly patients who have become combative. It usually happens because of confusion, or medications, or some aspect of a disease process. Some even had some sort of weapon. Funny, I don´t recall ever needing riot shields, guns or tasers to get them calmed down. That poor man.
It is only a matter of time before all the cop-o-phile defenders of police brutality start chanting that if the 95 year old man would have just obeyed the cops, then he probably wouldn´t have been shot
1) The militarization of local police. This may be as a result of veterans segueing into police work from military service. But, even in Iraq, we didn´t hear anything about 96 year-old arabs getting killed, as happened with this poor man.
2) The nonchalant use of "less-than-lethal" force, which I believe desensitizes cops to stand-off violence. They aren´t experiencing the violence they are perpetrating. Almost as if they are remote and removed from the activity, and are simply bystanders watching a video.
Whatever the cause, this is bestial, and will absolutely guarantee more aggressive situations and responses in the future.
This happens all too often to people with disabilities. Some police are trained to assess the situation; others simply presume that all people are the same level of threat. When people who are deaf or who have autism don´t respond to a yelling police officer, they get Tased or shot. A 2 foot shoehorn is considered a "weapon", a pencil is considered a weapon - whatever the person has in his hands. (From the same people who point out that Trayvon, knowledgeable of MMA, was ´unarmed´ when he repeatedly slammed Zimmerman´s head into the concrete walkway.)
I know many families with a disabled loved one who are fearful of calling 911 for assistance - precisely because of this type of over-reaction.
Two or three big, healthy men could not take control of this situation? They had to kill him? He was absolutely no threat to anyone. I am a big police supporter but in this case they need to have their ass sued.
#2 the staff did not call the police. As stated in the article, he refused medical attention and the paramedics called the police. He was "wobbly on his feet".
Staff are trained to call paramedics when they have questions about a person´s medical condition, as they are not trained. Perhaps the staff could have invervened with the paramedics to calm the man before the lethal enforcers were called by the paramedics, but they probably had no idea of the risk.
The police who tased and beanbagged an old man to death will, I hope, never live it down.
I´ve always been a big fan and defender of te cops and give them the benefit of the doubt most of the time. But they do seem to be getting a little more trigger happy these days,just like the cop that killed a homeless man point blank.
I think if you´re an average cop these days,you´re slightly confused over what your role is any more.You´re not really sure if you report to the local authorities or if various orders are coming from DC.
I´m thinking that if you´re a cop and kill someone,you´re on administrative leave util you´re cleared of wrongdoing.
We also saw an FBI agent kill a Chechnyan in Fl. because he had a metal stick. I don´t think I´ve ever seen or heard of a metal stick before but apparently this killing was never investigated.
I used to have respect for the police; not any more. Returning home after surgery to find thieves in my home it took 40 minutes for cops to show up after my 911 call. Obvious evidence of footprints on the carpet and fingerprints on a jewelry cabinet were ignored when I pointed them out. Advice: call your insurance company. Within the last week or so a woman calls the police to say her husband is downstairs battling an intruder. Advice: if it gets worse call us back.
I have noticed a trend towards use of excessive force since AA, affirmative action, was pushed to the forefront. There are too many people, namely women (I´m one), who IMO do not have the strength to subdue criminals. Or to carry people out of burning buildings.
Columbine and the wife and children of the doctor, and many other instances, have shown us that Protect and Serve is not intended to protect us the people. The police appear to protect themselves first while they wait outside buildings where killings are taking place.
Cops on board: please tell me how wrong I am and how it is necessary for the police to make sure no harm will come to the police if they enter a dangerous situation. If the police are ticket writers and paper shufflers and tasar users, then we should all be issued guns.
My mother had severe dementia and there were times when careful and patient handling was necessary. The worst thing that I ever saw happen at her facility was lots of soft talking, careful guidence and lots of time spent while doing so. I remember one time when this took nearly 45 minutes and NO ONE raised a hand. These people are frightned, confussed and old. Mom was 98. You know
I think this, along with the unnecessary dog shootings and other excessive use of police force, are an unfortunately side effect of training designed to keep police officers alive that tells them not to take risks and use force to control situations. It´s shifted their thinking too far from common sense. It´s also my experience that good police and bad police tend to concentrate by town. If a town has some good police, then they´ll all generally be good. If some are bad, then most of them seem to be bad. That´s probably because good police and bad police probably don´t coexist very well in each other´s culture.
Number 19 is on the right track. The cops were not old but obviously they were scared and confused. I can´t imagine any cop being so afraid of a 95 year old man without a weapon that they had to resort to violence.
Anyone who tasers a 95 year-old man is unfit to wear a badge and a gun.
Anyone who shoots a 95 year-old man with shotgun beanbag rounds in unfit to wear a badge and a gun.
Anyone who claims an old man threatened them with a shoehorn and a cane is unfit to wear a badge and a gun.
I hope the family sues the (bleep) out of both the police department and the individual officers responsible for this horror. If you´re too stupid to deal with this situation in a reasonable fashion, you´re too stupid to be in law enforcement.
I´m with #22. For the huge money most of these local cops get, they should be plenty qualified (on their own) in hand-to-hand defense to quickly end events like this, without tragedy.
I´ve been thinking, that since the school shooting in Connecticut, the cops (1 mile away), didn´t respond to the shooting for 20 minutes. Meaning that, for many cops, the entire calculus is, how does this call affect my pension?
I have to agree with #24. What citizen is willing to go to a town council meeting and complain about the militarization of the local police force?
I no longer trust the police. I hope I never have to depend upon them for help because I do not trust them to control their "trigger" finger. A sad comment on the change of our local police from peace-keepers to swat teams.
Yesterday I watched a rerun of Adam 12 where a 85 year old former cowboy was locked in his room and claimed to have a gun. (An old sharps rifle) He was refusing to go to a rest home. Reed and Malloy talked to him and established a bond with him and all was well. Today the old guy would be lying dead in his room. Jack Webb was the biggest police supporter in the history of media but I wonder what he would think of the way Swat teams are being used today.
Ill-trained morons with ZERO common sense use the same procedures they´d use on an amped up 20-year miscreant. I hope the family sues the pants off the "officers" who tased and shot Mr. Wrana and the city. Do you suppose when Mr. Wrana was braving enemy fire in World War II he ever imagined he would survive that only to be murdered by out-of-control cops? The police in this country are rapidly losing the trust and support of the one group they can ill afford to lose- the normal taxpaying, law abiding citizen.
This kind of craziness does seem to be happening more and more, but back in the day when my sons were in high school and collegel I advised them never to let anybody search their vehicle without parents/and or lawyer present. you just never know when you might encounter a bad cop. No paranoia, just very careful.
They could have waited 10 minutes until he fell asleep and taken his deadly weapons. The guy´s wife was dead, he was happy at the assisted living home and didn´t want to go to the hospital. It should have been his choice. Not the goon squad.
All this unnecessary and illegal force came about after the stupid goobermint started militarizing the cops. The cops then use any excuse to try out their shiny new equipment and exert their Barry civilian army force. Get used to it.
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