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Federal ´nudge squad´ led by
20-something wunderkind gears
up to change Americans´ behaviors*

Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 7/30/2013 8:30:10 PM

When does a nudge become a shove? Americans may find out in coming years, as the federal government is setting up a ´behavioral insights team´ to tinker with the way we accomplish everything from saving money and staying in school to losing weight and becoming more energy-efficient. [Snip] ´[I]nsights from the social and behavioral sciences can be used to help design public policies that work better, cost less, and help people to achieve their goals,´ says her proposal, first spotted by Fox News when Shankar sought help from a university professor. In 2006 Shankar was named one of

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*– for our own good

And we are paying this elite young nanny to do this to us?


      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Northcross, 7/30/2013 8:39:14 PM     (No. 9450368)

Let me guess. All the wonderful behaviors these twits will be pushing are politically correct mindsets toward socialism, immorality, feminism, race relations, sexual deviancy, and the evils of Christian doctrine and practice. Those of us whose standards center on God, family, and country will have to be re-educated. Is that about it?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ersatzluci, 7/30/2013 8:58:18 PM     (No. 9450377)

#1, I think you have it pretty much nailed.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds, 7/30/2013 9:02:28 PM     (No. 9450383)

Hitler, Lenin, and Mao would be so proud...

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Reply 4 - Posted by: neanderthal, 7/30/2013 9:13:23 PM     (No. 9450394)

With about half the voters either on welfare, want to get onto welfare, think that everybody should get onto welfare if they want, unions, and bureaucrats, it ain´t very likely that anything is going to change. They will accept anything, any abuse as long as they don´t have to work.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: lavalette, 7/30/2013 9:34:28 PM     (No. 9450414)

Efforts to manipulate peoples´ attitudes and behavior by Pavlovian conditioning are illegitimate. They stand in contrast to legitimate efforts to persuade by reasoned argument and personal example. They are a modern form of witchcraft and the practitioners should be burned at the stake.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: nonsense, 7/30/2013 9:42:58 PM     (No. 9450417)

Let´s think about this, in the UK they believe they are on track to save $500 million over 5 years, and they call that a successful program. Now the regime wants to copy that oh-so-successful "nudge" strategy in America.

What a joke that would be for this country, the last Grifter vacation cost us $100 million dollars. So the National Givernment wants use to change our behavior so they can "save money" in order to have more money for the Grifters to spend on their monthly vacations. Only this administration would use such a perverted philosophy to control the people and redistribute the money for their own use.

We are bankrupt, we cannot afford any more damaging egg-head programs.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Videodrone, 7/30/2013 9:48:21 PM     (No. 9450419)

this stared a while ago, the "Stay in school" "move a lot" "Feed the Pig" and other such nonsense

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Reply 8 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 7/30/2013 9:50:24 PM     (No. 9450421)

This is a project of Cass Sunstein, one of Zero´s most academic and extreme left advisors, having published a book about it five years ago.

http://www.amazon.com/Nudge-Improving-Decisions-Health-Happiness/dp/014311526X

So they´re hiring some college intern to actually try it, that shows how much support it really has.

The underlying goals seem to be that people are too stupid to make good decisions, so Zero and his Communist advisors are going to bend their minds by magic to make everyone as smart as they are. Kind of like Hillary´s "Reset" button but moreso.

Should be a regular vomit comet.



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Reply 9 - Posted by: Bohallx, 7/30/2013 10:08:27 PM     (No. 9450435)

#4 ~ roughly speaking, 69 million adults vote Democrat; 60 million adults vote Republican; 90 million adults don´t vote (usually).

I call into serious question your claim that half those who vote are on welfare or want to be on welfare. At the moment less than 5 million are on welfare.

46.7 million are on foodstamps, but that´s something the working poor can get provided they moxie up some bucks ~ that´s still not 50% of the voters even if you count foodstamps as a welfare equivalent.

Count in those who don´t vote and those percentages crash and burn.

Look, one of the reasons Mitt lost the election was he knew a lot of stuff that was not relevant, or just flat out wrong. When you are the outsider trying to kick out a sitting President it´s best that you understand what is relevant to your own voters, and what is right.

it´s long past the time we should be debating property qualification for voting.



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Reply 10 - Posted by: FormerDem, 7/30/2013 10:16:31 PM     (No. 9450441)

it is just weird how she yearns to boss people.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Shells, 7/30/2013 10:23:00 PM     (No. 9450447)

Nudge this you stinking federal creeps.
I don´t take to being nudged in any way, what so ever.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: smidgen, 7/30/2013 10:33:59 PM     (No. 9450450)

Nothing new. The media and pollsters have been doing this for years. "Gee, if all those folks think this is a good idea I must be wrong so I will agree with them"

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Reply 13 - Posted by: deepthinker, 7/30/2013 10:47:01 PM     (No. 9450462)

Don´t you just love euphemisms? Is water-boarding now "nudging"??

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Reply 14 - Posted by: earlybird, 7/30/2013 10:49:49 PM     (No. 9450463)

Cass Sunstein now has a new partner in crime.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: CEP, 7/30/2013 10:56:29 PM     (No. 9450471)

This is un-american and government overstep.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: LadyVet, 7/30/2013 11:07:43 PM     (No. 9450478)

It´s getting to the point, that the only thing that´s going to work is when we decide to nudge back. The command will be given: Fix Bayo-Nudgers!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/31/2013 12:09:43 AM     (No. 9450503)

Too bad they don´t see the need to fix the gov.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Trust No One, 7/31/2013 12:13:38 AM     (No. 9450505)

This will become part of obamacare. Don´t follow our "nudges" no medicine for you!

BTW - FTA

What is an ´insurance objector´? Is that one who opposes obamacare? Lol

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Reply 19 - Posted by: LadyVet, 7/31/2013 1:02:46 AM     (No. 9450532)

I guess that NSA database will come in handy. Maybe they can check all those emails and text messages to see what time they are sent. And then send a message to the Obamaphone that says "Go to bed and quit bothering people!"

More likely, it will be a subtle ad for Democrat-owned companies / organizations.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: PChristopher, 7/31/2013 2:15:03 AM     (No. 9450574)

Oh, great...a chirpy, progressivist Yalie with all of the life-experience of every other know-it-all teen/20-something. And just how late is "late-20´s"? Does she tell people that she´s 290 months old?

Anyone remember the great old series "I, Claudius"? In one scene that pops to mind frequently these days, the Lady Livia was grousing about something with Claudius when she said something to the effect of "Rome must be ruled by men, not by children as is the fashion in Egypt!" Wonderful...I´ll have to dig out the DVD´s.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: mws50, 7/31/2013 2:27:16 AM     (No. 9450593)

The very first executive order our new president issues on January 21, 2017 should be an executive order rescinding all of president obama´s executive orders.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 7/31/2013 2:31:47 AM     (No. 9450599)

I´m getting really tired of getting my marching orders from 20-something Ivy grads who think they know it all.

I have sweaters older than this kid.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 7/31/2013 4:56:12 AM     (No. 9450627)

#19, as the term "insurance objectors" is coupled with "lapsed recyclers," I´d say the Mail is practicing a bit of its lovely subtle sarcasm--a nudge to the nudgers you might say.

Notice that "scientifically collected evidence" and other terms including various versions of "science" are scattered throughout quotes from the supporters and practitioners of nudging. Majoring in social psychology I never referred to it as a social "science." I also worked for some years in political opinion research, assisting a very good political analyst. It´s not that good conclusions can´t be produced by good research design, rather that too many practitioners of the "soft sciences" design surveys so the answers confirm their own agendas, unwittingly or not. You know--kinda like hockey stick charts were created (definitely wittingly, that one).

If you´ll read about the UK program,

http://tinyurl.com/co922om

you´ll find it´s not quite the same thing as the US version envisions. I don´t know much about it but it seems to be aimed more at efficiencies in government and will be spun off to the private section to secure efficiencies in private business. I don´t think it´s as much of a Big Brother program in the UK as it will be in the US.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 7/31/2013 5:03:13 AM     (No. 9450628)

Sorry--a little note to #6: To find the equivalent benefit to the US population, extrapolate that $500m for a population of roughly 63 million to a population of around 316 million.

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