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The Bradley Manning verdict is
still bad news for the press

Guardian (UK), by Dan Gillmore

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Posted By:FlyRight, 7/30/2013 5:38:47 PM

The American journalism trade is breathing a collective – but premature and, in many cases, grossly hypocritical – sigh of relief today. A military judge has found Bradley Manning guilty of many crimes, but "aiding the enemy" isn´t one of them. Had the judge found Manning guilty of aiding the enemy, she would have set a terrible precedent. For the first time, an American court – albeit a military court – would have said it was a potentially capital crime simply to give information to a news organization, because in the internet era

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: amanoftwistsandturns, 7/30/2013 7:19:23 PM     (No. 9450267)

The press and defense counsel is trying to spin this as a favorable verdict because he was not convicted of the 2 most serious charges. Having sat on many courts-martial I can say that is a crock. The prosecution threw the kitchen sink at Manning and he is very likely going to get 25-30 yrs and with time served that means he will likely do at least 18 more yrs of hard time at Leavenworth (unless Obama pardons him). This poor kid got played by the Left and his defense lawyers. He could have cut a deal a long time ago that would have gotten him out in 5 - 8 years. Poor dumb fool.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bohallx, 7/31/2013 8:09:38 AM     (No. 9450807)

Manning has other information that the gub´mnt still wants and can cut a deal any time he wants.

His supporters thought he was being tortured because his cell was too small and he didn´t get enough exercise. Give this bad boy a few months of regular prison life and he´ll try to make a deal.

Sometimes this works the other way though. An old friend of mine was convicted of racketeering but he thought he was guilty of counterfeiting. The federales didn´t believe him and wouldn´t deal for the plates.

Finally, they realized he was the counterfeiter they wanted, and made a deal for the plates ~ he got out ~ Manning might well be in that sort of bind. He could have some far more important stuff on others but no one believes him. Well, now he can get to work on that part. He´ll have lots and lots of time!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: dotty, 7/31/2013 8:12:17 AM     (No. 9450810)

Have any of you watched the dronerangers murdering a man with an obvious camera, calling it a weapon, blowing them up, killing the rescuers, happy as clams to destroy civilians on a street? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0I6S8mva-s
Bradley did as Christ would have him do.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: wyowumin, 7/31/2013 9:24:38 AM     (No. 9450945)

It astonishes me that on a conservative web site so many posters are willing to hail a couple of left-wing, anti-American, traitorous snots as heroes. The information that they were leaking was most definitely NOT in the interest of patriotism but done to specifically hurt the United States and it´s interests. Anyone who wasn´t aware of the fact that the NSA not only had the capability but was most likely gathering information on anyone and everyone had to be delusional. These little are traitors are, full stop, not whistleblowers. Their only problem with the present administration is that they don´t believe that the lovely totalitarian Utopia they envisioned when they elected all their Progressives to run the country hasn´t come about quickly enough.




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Reply 5 - Posted by: RancherJack, 7/31/2013 10:16:24 AM     (No. 9451022)

Bradley Manning and Julian Assange managed to reveal a very, very important secret ..

.. U.S. Intelligence Services are run by incompetent Bureaucratic knuckleheads.

For that I thank Bradley Manning.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: postaway, 7/31/2013 11:12:17 AM     (No. 9451142)

I still can´t understand why a misfit like Manning, who exhibited serious emotional problems while in the Army, was allowed access to any classified information.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: shamus, 7/31/2013 11:38:02 AM     (No. 9451209)

The good news is that Manning is already gay before he goes to prison.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Felixcat, 7/31/2013 12:09:49 PM     (No. 9451289)

I am more sympathetic to Snowden then to Manning. NSA runs a program that basically treats all US citizens as suspects while Manning, in his naivete - to say the least, purposefully released thousands of actual classified documents to Wikileaks to provoke a discussion of war crimes by the US? A confused young gay man - and gets a TS level clearance. Snowden revealed the existence of a program active inside the US that I believe is unconstitutional and don´t give me this war on terror/national security/ Chris Christie and the widows garbage.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: bohallx, 7/31/2013 12:20:57 PM     (No. 9451316)

#8 ~ then this. NSA is getting the meta data of concern directly from the phone companies.

They themselves are wide open to penetration by Russia and the Chicoms, and others.

Yet, too many of you "it´s unconstitutional´ folks NEVER suggest we ought to FORCE the phone companies to QUIT creating the meta data in the first place.

That way we don´t just cut off NSA and give the meta data to the enemies and potential enemies ~ we just don´t create it!

Now, here´s the good part ~ where you have to go on the defensive ~ if you favor the Chicoms over NSA you have a really serious long term problem living in this country ~ plus, you have NO Conservative credentials, so why are you posting on this board?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: lana720, 7/31/2013 12:51:14 PM     (No. 9451395)

There´s room. Too bad he will have to share space with COL Lakin who only wanted to know where zippy was born, for sure.
A punk and a Patriot, not fair.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Felixcat, 7/31/2013 1:03:52 PM     (No. 9451430)

Whether it´s the phone/internet companies collecting this metadata or the US government - either way - we are all vulnerable. I suppose that I´d rather have as my enemy the Red Chinese then my own government- Constitutional principles you know.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Roberto 22, 7/31/2013 2:01:58 PM     (No. 9451542)

There is entirely too much material classified and entirely too many people given access to it. I worked for a navy contractor with a secret clearance. anything beyond my clearance was not available to me and was not discussed in my presence. Need to know was the order on all classified material.

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