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Mann vs. Steyn: Heresy
Shall Be Crushed

American Thinker, by Daren Jonescu

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Posted By:magnante, 7/26/2013 7:03:52 AM

Remember when scientists and other truth-seekers used to get all riled up about the way the Catholic Church treated Galileo? The outcry was not over the fact that Galileo was a "peer-reviewed" researcher, and therefore beyond question. Quite the contrary: the argument was that, from the point of view of the quest for truth, no one, including the representatives of official orthodoxy and authority, ought to be regarded as beyond question. In the Michael Mann lawsuit against Mark Steyn and National Review, it is the "award-winning researcher" who is joining the fight for Church orthodoxy

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 7/26/2013 7:23:24 AM     (No. 9443245)

Mann is part of that group (algore is merely a hanger-on) which is striving to de-populate the planet. His group´s main aim is zero-population growth.

IMO, if just the liberals would board some craft to Other World, the planet could heal itself. We didn´t make it and we can´t break it.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: grampus, 7/26/2013 7:27:31 AM     (No. 9443251)

Perhaps Mann´s lawsuit against Steyn will provide Steyn an opportunity to demand Mann´s email that are so zealously guarded by the University of Virginia. Mann was for several years an employer/research scientist/whatever at UVA. He used Virginia state funds in his "research." Virginia Attorney General wanted access to Mann´s UVA emails to see if the state funds were properly used. UVA folks had a hissy fit and never did give the Attorney General access to the emails. Mann moved on to Penn State (?) and no resolution was reached.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: jakehearts, 7/26/2013 7:55:52 AM     (No. 9443294)

#2 you hit the nail on the head. I can´t wait to see what comes out of discovery. The more this alarmist who is a (public figure) is exposed, the quicker the house of cards will fall down on the climate hawks.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: dman, 7/26/2013 8:35:47 AM     (No. 9443334)

#2 and #3 may be correct, but my main concern is yet another assault on free speech. Steyn is a political commentator. Should G. W. Bush take his critics to court for what they said about him - even if their accusations are "provably false"?

This is what happens when political lawyer-hacks in robes "rule" us.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: MattMusson, 7/26/2013 8:55:18 AM     (No. 9443353)

Who cares about Free Speech when you are talking about Global Warming! Global Warming is the most serious crises challenging the survival of Mankind! If it weren´t then why would AL GORE be jetting around the Globe saying it was?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Grace Veritas, 7/26/2013 9:21:01 AM     (No. 9443398)

Steyn´s in trouble. It was an agency of the federal government that deep-sixed the attempted debunking of Kris Kringle in Miracle on 34th Street, and gave Judge Fred Mertz the space he needed to rule the way he wanted. Something very similar seems to be going on here with Judge Natalia.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Calvinesq, 7/26/2013 9:33:05 AM     (No. 9443417)

It is impossible for me to believe that Mann is not a "public figure" for purposes of libel claims. Mann has put himself out in the public view every chance he has had for self-aggrandizement in the global warming "non"-debate.

That being said, I hope #2 is right and Steyn gets to see those documents in the discovery stage of this case.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: afherkdriver, 7/26/2013 9:47:30 AM     (No. 9443452)

Mann is almost as shameful to Penn State as Sandusky is.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: stymie82, 7/26/2013 9:47:46 AM     (No. 9443453)

Another reason that Penn State should be burned to the ground and it´s land salted.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bohallx, 7/26/2013 9:51:47 AM     (No. 9443459)

The TRUE FACTOIDS regarding the use of the tree-ring data are easy to understand.

Mann didn´t have enough samples to extend his analysis up to the present (at that time) so he ordered up more of them from the same Russian sources he´d used for his first set.

These are LARCH TREE samples taken from the top of a row of high hills/low mountains lying along the LENA RIVER in Russian Siberia.

The people who went to get the additional samples from up to date tree growth found recent storms had denuded the hills of that kind of LARCH TREE so they went downhill well more than 1000 feet to get samples from other LARCH TREES at roughly sea level.

The climate always changes concurrently with altitude anywhere on the planet. It´s colder at the top; warmer at the bottom.

Mann added the new samples from warmer climate trees to his series, then said, "Wow momma, they be some high temperatures there"

Anybody who wants can look up LENA RIVER LARCH TREE RING SAMPLES SIBERIA and find the Russian reports. There are two. The original. The later one. Translated to English, but the Russian reports are there published by the guys who got the samples.

They said bad words about Mann!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: The Advocate, 7/26/2013 1:02:51 PM     (No. 9443842)

The Russians published the East Anglian emails of Jones and Mann.
India´s Pauchera was forced to resign and India set up its own climate research center.
They helped exposé this fraudulent data.
Statins Lysenko perverted scientific research and destroyed careers of genetic experts.
Result? Failed corn crops and death.
AGW group is invested in this sham for money and control.
Penn State has Sandusky and Mann- who is worse?


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Reply 12 - Posted by: crimea river, 7/26/2013 1:55:16 PM     (No. 9443929)

Judge Natalia Combs-Greene (Clintoon appointee) is considered extremely biased, openly hostile and a total NUT.

http://www.zimbio.com/Natalia/articles/8X4ucSjqGlQ/Sterling+Reviews+Judge+Natalia+Combs+Greene

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