A new study by the Frontier Lab, a conservative market research group, found that Republican voters who leave the party do so because they are are tired of being told to vote Republican as the "lesser of two evils." The study, "Switching Behavior: Modeling disaffiliation from the Republican brand," is published on the group´s website and applies scientific methods of qualitative research to the GOP´s most urgent problem. Unlike the official Republican National Committee (RNC) "autopsy," which was prepared by consultants and political figures using familiar campaign-season methods such as focus groups and polls
Comments: I am surprised that a study even needed to be done. Commonsense leads one directly to the same conclusion.
The part that is so hard for the Republican Establishment and its minions to grasp is when you live by the "lesser of two evils" doctrine, you have to actually win a few elections to make it even a semi-believable argument.
The undeniable fact is that the Republican Party will continue to lose elections when the main goal of the party is to please K Street, not voters.
The "two evils" argument is a classic trick that is basically designed to get people to lower their standards and accept the unacceptable. It´s basically a false choice proposition where you are forced to make a choice between A and B even though both may be rotten choices but one is slightly less rotten than the other. It degrades society by incrementalism in the down direction.
I know I for one am fed up with the "lesser of two evils" approach, and the establishments, be nice to democrats, can´t we all get along mentality. We must destroy liberalism, not try to get along with it. I am no longer a republican, am a conservative.
The old argument of third party will never win no longer applies here. A third party is very viable. Like the IRS, strike while the iron is hot and do away with it. It´s new dangerous times and status quo and lesser of evils won´t work. I´m not voting Republican and I have given my all to it but not any more. I´m done and will not vote until conservative candidates run in a party that I approve of. Tea Party would be a good start. Let the Republicans rot on the vine.
EXCELLENT article! The spike is being driven into the heart of the country-club Republican establishment who has been in bed with the liberal Democrats for many decades. In future national elections, the Romney-McCain-Bush cabal will get about 30% of the popular vote if nominated by the Stupid Party (oops, I meant Republican Party).
When a GOP related fundraising letter arrives, I redact (obviously watching too televised many committee meetings) my personal information, write the following and return the letter without donation in their postage paid envelope.
"I didn´t leave the Republican Party. The Party left me."
The key point in the study for me is that the reason people leave the Republican Party is a perceived lack of leadership by principle. All too many Republican leaders have only one principle, acquire political power.
Here´s an analogy: The GOP leadership is somewhat like generals that direct disastrous battles (elections) because they rely on subordinates (consultants and big donors in this case)to provide advise. Plus they never actually go to the front to see for themselves to evaluate the facts on the ground.
So in the aftermath of the battle the general relies on his subordinates to tell him why the battle was lost. So who does the subordinates blame? The front like troops (conservatives and non-rino republicans) who fought and died based upon the subordinates advise to the general.
I went outside the nine dots and voted for H. Ross Perot two times because I was so darned disgusted with the Republican party and I would do it again. Bring on a third party and see how many conservatives there are out there. It would be hard not to vote in the next election after a lifetime of casting a vote, but I would have to think long and hard to color that little black dot for yet another go along to get along Republican candidate. I have a permanent dent in my nose from the clothespin.
I´m sad to hear that, #18. If you had known Ross Perot, as I do, you would never have considered casting your valuable vote for such a person, but Bill Clinton appreciated the Perot voters´ help both times.
I´m starting this year by refusing to cast a vote for Chris Christie. His appointment of Chiesa and the subsequent vote for immigration was the end for me.
I remain a registered Republican because I want to be able to vote for the most conservative candidate in the primaries. However, if an acceptable third party rises, I will drop the Republicans in a heartbeat and never look back.
Scales are falling off eyes. Conservatives are grudgingly realizing that to unseat the Democrat juggernaut, they must unseat the GOP first.
#19 simply regurgitates the "two evils" argument. Perot threw the election, plain and simple. What he accomplished, however, was to expose the political vacuum that still exists. It´s time to fill that vacuum before it is too late.
"Freedom Party" has a nice ring to it on this Independence Day, doesn´t it?
Don´t look at me. I´m appalled that any American could look at the direction of the country over past four years and even consider remaining on the sidelines. Happy Independence Day to the true patriots who voted in the last election. We will continue the fight.
Ross Perot dragged me away from the Dems. Nobody has yet convinced me to join the Reps. I vote Libertarian when there is no conservative on the ticket. I did vote for Romney because I saw him as a foot in the door to saving the country. I think the country can´t be saved now and we need a clean slate. Wiping out the IRss Taxstapo and the HHss Healthwaffe would be a good start.
I also send back the envelopes looking for Donations to Republican Party with an explanation of why i wont donate anymore. tell them i give to individual candidates of my own choosing. Been doing so for several years but it doesn´t seem to dissuade them. Tell the phone callers same thing. Stop wasting both of our time , please.
Take 100 people, 50 Republicans, 50 Democrats. If one Democrat is persuaded to vote Republican, you have 49 Dim votes to 51 Republican votes, a difference of 2. If a Republican votes third-party, the result is 49% R to 50% D.
The country is approximately 50% Dim, 50% Republican. Divide the Republican side and you have a permanent Democrat majority.
A vote for Ross Perot was 1/2 a vote for Clinton.
In the last election, a non-vote was 1/2 a vote for Obama, Valjar and Holder.
For the last two elections, I have considered leaving the republican party.....but stopped because I would NEVER vote for a dem, so why leave the pubbies? Last election we got a call from the pubbies trying to raise money and my husband told them he does not donate/contribute to liberal democrats....and that is what he considers the republican party. A month after the last potus election, when the pubbies were claiming they were going even further left, I re-registered and quit the republican party.
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god of irony, 7/4/2013 10:12:06 AM (No. 9408518)
I understand the frustration but instead of leaving the party or sending back empty envelopes to the RNC why are you people not doing something to change the Republican party? Take it over at the grass root level and force the change from the bottom up.
You people claim to be "tea partiers" but the fact is our Founding Fathers were men of action not sideline complainers.
The current crop of Republican federal office holders prove that those who stand for nothing will fall for anything. Amnesty is not amnesty. The border will be sealed and close to militarized. The problem is that as soon as "reform" is mentioned, the discussion of enforcement of current law, a "humanitairian law" passed in 1986 to put an eternal end to border leakage, stops. We have become a nation of selective enforcement. I wish I could live like an illegal - get cash, no taxes, full scale "assistance", and the list goes on. When the state begins to issue licenses to "undocumented" persons, I´m taking myself down to get one...great for DUI stops and assorted fraud.
I disaffiliated in February when I moved and changed my address. I was tired of being sold out or taken for granted by a party that wants my money but considers me a yahoo because I´m conservative. I lost nothing because my state´s primary is so late in the year that the nominee has been selected by the time we caucus.
The republicrats have been in the sack with the democrats who´ve been in bed with the progressives since the first Roosevelt presidency. The ruling elite have essentially and atomically betrayed us. There is no political solution any more. Only contaminated people are allowed to run for office higher than dog catcher. By the time one can run for president, one´s soul no longer exists. I knew that when I was 12 and that was more than 50 years ago. There ain´t no fix. The wheels fell off long ago.
The problem with the argument that if we vote for a third party candidate is that we get a Clinton, is that had we won we would have had a Dole, or a McCain, or a another 4 years of Bush41. If the Republican party wants me to give money again and publicly admit that I am a Republican, they need to run really conservative candidates. I will always vote and vote for the most conservative candidate in the election. But, I will not campaign or contribute again to a Chris Christie Republican.
For those of you who are unhappy with the current major parties, Democrat and Republican, I have a question. Are you actively involved to change anything? If you are yearning for a third party choice, do you know there are many, many parties to choose among, not just Republican and Democrat? There´s lots of whining going on among these threads. Tell us what you´re doing about your frustrations, aside from blaming your unhappiness on those who ARE doing something...the Karl Roves, the Ted Cruzes, yes, the Jeb Bushes, the House Committees. Changing your party affiliation is a start, if that makes you happy, but there have to be further steps. If you are waiting for Sarah Palin to lead your charge, good luck. She has an active PAC to which you can contribute, but I haven´t seen her laying any real groundwork, either. Words are easy. Work is harder.
If the republican establishment does not change its nomination process (letting Iowa, NH and blue NE states chose our candidate) a third party is the only solution. To nominate our candidate I propose states hold (CLOSED!) primaries in order of how they went the previous election i.e. if a state goes conservative 55% it holds its primary before any state that only went 50% conservative. The primary order thus changes each cycle.
I doubt the establishment republicans are going to miss the conservatives. Oh sure, they won´t win elections, but they can always find staff jobs in DC and will get invited to better parties. In addition, they won´t have to hear their wives gripe at them about having to be associated with those red necks and religious people.
I just re-registered to vote as Libertarian Party member. I live in California and was born here in 1950. The once great California Republican party has been reduced to an asterisk in all elections. The Mexicans believe Republicans hate Mexicans, and are only for white rich people and that they will NEVER vote for any Republican. I have become disgusted by the actions of GOP members in Congress like McCain, Graham, and all the other gutless RINOs that sell out consistently. The Two Evils argument has no affect no me leaving the party. The party left me a long time ago. Buh bye....
As more and more of the R rank and file grasp the nettle; that the GOP is little more than the corrupt tail of the DC duopoly; hope remains. Predictably, the usual suspects will trot out their tired bromides about not wasting a vote on a 3rd party. Of course, for these fear ridden harridans, they define a conservative as someone who wears laced shoes plus a shirt, tie and blazer, w/proper schooling, nice manners and good breeding. Good riddance to the GOP!!!!!
To all you "conservaties" on this website who did not vote in 2012 - I will not even comment because of language police. 3rd Party has always been "bad" for America & still is. Anyone heard of RAND PAUL? We need to get behind him NOW with the help of Cruz,Sessions,Perry,Gingrich,Levin,Rush,Golmert,Johnson,DeMint,Palin(even Palin) & a few others. Young people can understand him & will support him because he makes his ideas plain & simple. I´m not a Ron Paul person but he had a following. Too bad about Rubio he is sadly past history. I go along with #22,#19,#35 & #37 - keep the party & bring it back to life!
Newsflash: Every politician will sell you out eventually, if selling out is defined as disagreeing with you on any one particular issue. How many former Tea Party darlings have sold you out already? Rubio? Scott Walker? Ayotte? Is Rand Paul a hero or a villain? He´s one thing to some folks here, the opposite to others. Can some even remember from day to day whom they love and whom they hate, and why?
The only one left is Ted Cruz. And I guarantee that sooner or later he´ll do or say something unforgivable.
The reason several can´t/won´t let go of the GOP is because they have neither an affinity for, nor a grasp of, the core of principled conservatism. Conservatism is attitudinal, revering tradition rather than the trendy zeitgeist. Its bedrock principles are derivative of order, natural law, the family unit, culture, authority and responsibility; among other concepts. It is neither an economic system, a religious impulse nor a political philosophy that touts some brainless piece of legislation concocted by a gaggle of political jackasses. The GOP was forged during the Civil War as a party of government, in contrast to the Agrarian Democrat South. It evolved during the Gilded Age into a party of secular progressivism and later, beginning w/Taft in ´12, morphed into a party of big business and errand boy for corporate interests where it remains embedded today. The GOP is not and has never been a party of conservative principle; its Potus candidates during the past 100 years being mute testament to that cold reality. Being all sail and no anchor, the GOP´s troubles are all of its own making and of little concern or interest to the average citizen.
"The Simpsons: Treehouse of Horror VII (#8.1)" (1996):
Kodos: It´s true, we are aliens. But what are you going to do about it? It´s a two-party system. You have to vote for one of us. Man 1: He´s right, this is a two-party system. Man 2: Well I believe I´ll vote for a third-party candidate. Kang: Go ahead, throw your vote away.
It is a problem. Third party may end up being my only choice if Republicans keep bowing to the gods of power, elitism, and hate all things Tea and Palin. Those who promote the establishment Republicans are their own worse enemies. Because they show scorn and lack of respect for Tea people...and yes, for Palin..they can´t then pretend to want our votes and money. No one wants to be treated like a stupid person of no value. I wonder that E.R. on this site have the nerve to expect us to vote for their Favorites. If the usual apologists for E.R. will tell me why I should again vote for Republicans when they have such little regard for people like me. If they would debate Palin´s beliefs and words rather than heap scorn on her as a person..I would not mind. That at least is showing respect. But to ridicule and bash Palin just for being alive and well and giving her opinion makes Tea people turn their backs on your party. They always say the Republican party is the Stupid party....and I am beginning to believe it. Arrogant, stiff necked know it alls are what is ruling the Republicans. So do not ask us low grade people to follow you. We are turning our backs in droves.
Here is something conservatives are doing to change the party from within. They are leaving. They are telling the GOP in no uncertain terms that since they have sold out to the enemies of freedom and ignored the constitution, they will lose elections forever. If they get the message and change more than just their talk, they may get followers back. Another positive thing conservatives are doing is not trashing Palin at every opportunity.
The schoolyard bully line about "If you don´t like it, do something about it" doesn´t fly. If I don´t like it, I´ll do something different. You can go bully someone else. I´m not playing any more and I won´t be guilted.
Count me in as a former Republican voter - not a Republican, one who would hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. Not any more! I will not vote for Dem light again in my lifetime. if that means the Dem lights never win a national election, so be it. The Nat. Rep. Party will sooner or later realize that it needs to build a coalition and work with Conservatives. Either that or the Party will go the way of the Whigs and Federalist Parties.
When considering third party politics remember that the fate of the Whig party was for its remaining state chapters and local affiliates to become, for the most part, units in the new Republican Party along with the Abolitionist Movement in its entirity.
As we all remember, the Whigs were the original public works log rollers ~ they were or ports, docks, a coast guard, canals, railroads, roads, and so forth.
The greatest Whig enterprise in American history was called the Eisenhower National Defense Highway System ~ known as the Interstate Highway system for short! After all, once slavery was abolished, the slaves freed, and everybody was playing patty pat and goody two shoes after the reconciliation of 1876, the Abolitionists turned once again to successful Whig proposals and ambitions.
The basic political structure of the United States is the single member district. You must win 50%+1 vote to win with certainty time after time.
Over time the body politick resolves itself into a series of special interests that serve as coalition partners in one of two national parties.
The only way a third party can work is if it takes over an existing large national party. That´s how the Commies did it to the Democrats. That´s how it needs to be done to the Republicans.
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