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Sen. McCain: US will have ‘most
militarized’ border since Berlin Wall

The Hill [Washington, DC], by Daniel Strauss

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 6/25/2013 9:43:29 AM

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday said that an amendment advanced by the Senate would leave the U.S. with the “most militarized border” since the fall of the Berlin Wall and pave the way for the passage of comprehensive immigration reform. "The legislation concerning beefed up border security removes any validity to the argument that border security is not sufficient," McCain said of the amendment from Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) in an interview on CNN. "I mean this is not only sufficient it is well over sufficient. We´ll be the most militarized border

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Oh puhleeze stop! What an utter disgrace he is. And what is wrong with guarding our border??? He would be one of the ones screaming the loudest when we suffer another terrorist attack and they entered freely over the unguarded, porous border. I´m sick of looking at him and his girlfriend Lindsey.

      

Reply 1 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 6/25/2013 9:45:35 AM     (No. 9392698)

I´ll believe it when I see it, Senator.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: arcady, 6/25/2013 9:48:09 AM     (No. 9392708)

The Berlin Wall had a...wall.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: JustRight, 6/25/2013 9:50:12 AM     (No. 9392712)

And if it is not secure will you please resign from office?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: canadiandruid, 6/25/2013 9:51:12 AM     (No. 9392718)

probaby the northern borderto keep out us nasty canadians and our shopping-trip money - the southern border will remain wide open.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: MattMusson, 6/25/2013 9:51:31 AM     (No. 9392719)

If that is what it takes it is fine by me.

I have no problem with using the military to defend American soil - while Sen. McCain wants the military to defend Syria soil.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Pros7767, 6/25/2013 9:51:47 AM     (No. 9392721)

Liar, liar pants on fire. Please just go away.you´ve already done enough to destroy our country.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: tennman, 6/25/2013 9:56:25 AM     (No. 9392734)

Guess he´s forgotten about the PRNK and the DMZ there. McVain´s gone back to his true form now.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Keekng, 6/25/2013 9:58:40 AM     (No. 9392742)

Will the wall be for the purpose of keeping others out or keeping US Citizens in?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: kahunavol, 6/25/2013 9:58:47 AM     (No. 9392744)

Apparently McCain is banking on the lofos not understanding the difference between keeping people in and keeping people out.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: marthaville, 6/25/2013 9:59:34 AM     (No. 9392747)

Gee whiz, Sen. McCain, I learned in school that the Berlin Wall was constructed to keep the Germans in, not everyone else out.

More evidence Mr. McCain needs to retire.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 6/25/2013 10:03:20 AM     (No. 9392752)

Way past time for term limits. I have made excuses for this guy because of his past military service and terrible wounds. No more.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JAN, 6/25/2013 10:03:28 AM     (No. 9392754)

Quick, call the men in white coats.

What is so pathetic is that Paul Ryan is part of this scam.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: coldoc, 6/25/2013 10:10:37 AM     (No. 9392770)

Militarized, with no authority to use deadly force or even retention and expulsion. I bet they wont even be allowed to load their guns with live ammo.. What a complete bunch of BS from this addled fool. Jeff flake, shame on you.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: chicodon, 6/25/2013 10:15:07 AM     (No. 9392775)

The way they are all acting I believe they have come to the conclusion that this "Immigration" bill will sink the TEA Party base once and for all. That would explain why they (including Rubio) seemingly have no interest in what their base is saying. They plan on having a new base once this passes. Unfortunately, it may work.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: lylacat, 6/25/2013 10:22:13 AM     (No. 9392781)

Okay, let us see this "most militarized" border, and then we can talk amnesty to these illegals. No amnesty without proof of a closed border. Fool me once, shame on you ... fool me twice, shame on me .....

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Blonde Patriot, 6/25/2013 10:24:07 AM     (No. 9392786)

#14 - I disagree. They have lost their base over this. Illegals will never cling to the Republicans. McCain is a vain old fool and Rubio his stooge.

What a sorry state we are in. Republicans will have hell to pay for this.

I have changed my status to conservative not Republican.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: harleynyc, 6/25/2013 10:25:43 AM     (No. 9392790)

I guess my idea of border land mines won´t win his approval.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 6/25/2013 10:29:43 AM     (No. 9392801)

I think poster #14 is on to something. McCain is who he is (deluded and in love with process for its own sake) but Rubio has another idea - a new, liberal Republican party with him a the helm.


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Reply 19 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace, 6/25/2013 10:33:18 AM     (No. 9392811)

Aw shucks. I was also hoping for land mines. Simple solution. And to Sen. McPain...and your problem with a most militarized border is what? Ever heard the expression "We the people..." Sen. McPain?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: fhancock, 6/25/2013 10:34:09 AM     (No. 9392816)

Just a minor point...the Berlin Wall was trying to keep people in...our border is trying to keep illegal immigrants OUT...McCain must owe someone something drastic to make such a moronic statement... I suppose this wall is more militarized than the border separating N Korea and S Korea or Israel and Syria...NOT

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Freeloader, 6/25/2013 10:38:13 AM     (No. 9392830)

Let´s take a walk down memory lane this morning:

"I don´t think I need to tell you that there are jobs Americans will not do...Now, my friends, I´ll offer anybody here $50.00 an hour if you´ll pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for the whole season. So, OK, sign up!...and you´ll be there for the whole season, the whole season, OK, not just one day. Because you can´t do it, my friend."

John Sidney McCain III
January, 2008



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Reply 22 - Posted by: earlybird, 6/25/2013 10:40:51 AM     (No. 9392835)

Hyperbole. I still like Mrs. Smith´s "Bullfeathers!".

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Reply 23 - Posted by: jglas, 6/25/2013 10:41:35 AM     (No. 9392836)

What a crock. It´s 1986 all over again. The illegals will get their amnesty and security will be forgotten. In ten or twenty years the Democrats will be the overwhelmingly dominant political party, we will have a new 10 or 20 million illegal immigrants, there will be a new immigration bill to fix immigration once and for all and it will be 2013 all over again.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Emerson, 6/25/2013 10:42:32 AM     (No. 9392840)

Good intentions - or intentions intended to further an agenda - and/or plans do not secure a border. Border security measures - enacted, put in place - secure a border.

We´re sick of empty promises, John.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 6/25/2013 10:54:32 AM     (No. 9392864)

John McCain has been around plenty long enough to know the difference between words and deeds, promises and actions. Perhaps he does and is only pretending to be a fool for some unknown and sinister purpose.

Average Americans know perfectly well there is no more chance of all the promised border security actually materializing than there is of real reductions in Federal spending, satisfactory negotiations with the Taliban, or a peaceful resolution of the Arab-Israeli conflict. The world doesn´t work that way. People don´t behave that way.

Where has Senator McCain been all his life, that he does not seem to comprehend the basics?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: miceal, 6/25/2013 11:04:24 AM     (No. 9392877)

Liar!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Grambo, 6/25/2013 11:05:00 AM     (No. 9392878)

And his point is...?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: killerbee, 6/25/2013 11:08:22 AM     (No. 9392881)

Moronic old geezer. Regardless of militarization, the Berlin Wall kept people in. What a dunderhead.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 6/25/2013 11:08:24 AM     (No. 9392882)

#14 - it is going to take a lot of converts to make up for those of us who go elsewhere.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 6/25/2013 11:12:40 AM     (No. 9392887)

The Israel’s have a wall and it even stops the terrorists fro attacking. Of course it would never work here per McCain and gang.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 6/25/2013 11:17:55 AM     (No. 9392895)

Sometimes I feel like a man talking to a wall that is America.

Securing the border is desirable, but its like everyone ignores the obvious. What, tell me what, where, how, is the control for illegals to legally come here for a ´visit´, as a ´tourist´, and not go home? THAT is the real problem folks. No one talks about it.

What is the fix for it? Why is everyone, everywhere, silent on this topic? Put aside the numbers of people crossing the desert and trying to jump fences. I am more concerned about those who waltz into the country totally legally and just stay. I have a friend who married into a hispanic family, and a good 15 people I know of have simply come over and stayed. That´s just what me, as a single person, know of.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 6/25/2013 11:23:54 AM     (No. 9392905)

#25, I really think it´s all about Beltway Bubble Syndrome, not some ulterior motive.

McCain is the perfect example. When you´ve been in Washington long enough, and have had the MSM continually fawning over your contrived "maverick" persona, and you keep getting re-elected because you´ve dried up all the serious campaign money and no one worth a lick can or would bother running against you...well, there you have it.

So we should not be surprised to see others like Graham and Rubio see a winner in that formula.

Heaven help us.


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Reply 33 - Posted by: JimS, 6/25/2013 11:40:57 AM     (No. 9392927)

LIAR!
We all know that the Secretary of DHS can issue a waiver at any time to stop the border fence.
We have immigration laws on the books now that are not enforced by Obama.
We have a law now that provides for added fencing for border security, but nothing is happening.

Unless the law provides for CAPITAL PUNISHMENT for politicians and bureaucrats who fail to follow it, it is a toothless lie.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: coldborezero, 6/25/2013 11:47:16 AM     (No. 9392943)

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Reply 35 - Posted by: 4justice, 6/25/2013 12:15:31 PM     (No. 9392992)

That is not the answer anyway. You know they´ll just shoot Americans fleeing to Mexico to get away from the coming tyranny. They won´t shoot criminals, leeches and socialists coming in.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: losgatos, 6/25/2013 12:18:33 PM     (No. 9392998)

He´s right! When I, and American citizen, cross into Mexico who have their own border security system, I´m questioned by US Customs officers. I always tell them that now I know how it felt to live in Communist East Germany. We do have a Berlin wall and it´s the US Customs!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: nihtwael, 6/25/2013 12:28:42 PM     (No. 9393016)

Always again with the Berlin Wall already...sheesh. Keep ´em out, keep ´em in--all the same, apparently.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: 4justice, 6/25/2013 12:29:01 PM     (No. 9393017)

Btw, I and 20 other people I know would gladly pick lettuce all season for $50/hr without a second thought!!!!

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Reply 39 - Posted by: woodenleg, 6/25/2013 12:47:02 PM     (No. 9393046)

A better analogie would be the Great Wall of China. The Great Wall was built to keep the Mongol Hordes out.......the Berlin Wall was built to keep people in.....it was essentially a prison wall.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: shamus, 6/25/2013 12:48:51 PM     (No. 9393054)

McCain had his brain washed and he can´t do a thing with it.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 6/25/2013 12:55:42 PM     (No. 9393073)

I am ashamed to see this day. Many here want that. Fools.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Talk2, 6/25/2013 1:14:12 PM     (No. 9393100)

It´s time to get rid of this womanizing RINO.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 6/25/2013 1:18:01 PM     (No. 9393109)

Deport, John, deport...

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Reply 44 - Posted by: bighambone, 6/25/2013 1:32:26 PM     (No. 9393122)

McCain has become one of the most dangerous and disingenuous politicians in the US Senate, and certainly holds the lead on the Republican side. Notice that besides his support for amnesty, that he has continuously touted getting the USA involved in the Middle East civil wars.

The Obama Administration is never going to hire 20,000 new border patrol agents, unless the hiring process becomes a make work project for racial or ethnic minorities and maybe even aliens legalized under the amnesty, with the hiring and employment standards of the border patrol being reduced in big ways.

Congress years ago passed a law requiring 700 miles of borderline fences be erected and the Obama crew has refused to do so. So what does McCain go along with, another law requiring 700 miles of fence be built, some people believe that is the definition of insanity as it is clear that Obama has no intention of building that fence.

This bill is essentially an "open borders" bill that will allow for the legalization or entry of 46 million mostly poor and generally uneducated foreign workers and their families into the USA in the next ten years. That means that just about any Mexican who wishes to come into the USA to work can simply sign up for a "guest worker" visa and come to the USA to live with his or her foreign family group.

Thus there will be no need for all the new border patrol agents or the fences.



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Reply 45 - Posted by: K620, 6/25/2013 1:33:48 PM     (No. 9393125)

Thanks for the memory, #21. I was astounded when I heard him say that. That´s $2,000 or more a week. Have we become that wussy or is McCain in la-la land? (Both?). Go away, John. Please go away.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 6/25/2013 1:48:54 PM     (No. 9393141)

Senator McCain seems to forget that the guns on the Berlin Wall were pointed inward rather than outward. Huge difference. To every nation other than ours, border security is imperative and a priority. Ask the Guatemalans about the Mexican border.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Hugh Akston, 6/25/2013 1:57:20 PM     (No. 9393152)

Walls can work both ways, you know?

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Reply 48 - Posted by: Phosphene, 6/25/2013 2:10:59 PM     (No. 9393170)

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Reply 49 - Posted by: cheeflo, 6/25/2013 2:14:16 PM     (No. 9393178)

He doesn´t seem to be able to make distinctions. The essential difference is that the Berlin Wall existed to prevent people from leaving (and they were killed for trying), while border security exists to prevent people from entering illegally. That´s a big difference. He´s such a fool.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 6/25/2013 2:27:26 PM     (No. 9393201)

I will believe my lying eyes before I would ever believe that lying RINO ´RAT flunkie, McCain.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: NRAisFreedom, 6/25/2013 2:45:19 PM     (No. 9393225)

What a complete liar.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace, 6/25/2013 3:29:47 PM     (No. 9393309)

Since 1973 we´ve killed 50 million + babies through abortion. Now those children would be in their early 40´s having children of their own. Working hard. Paying taxes. So I guess, we´re making up for their loss by giving amnesty to how many millions illegals plus. If we had taken care of those who have been aborted since 1973, we wouldn´t need foreign workers. I know. It´s a stretch. I think it´s relevant.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: LComStaff8, 6/25/2013 4:19:49 PM     (No. 9393384)

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Senator Harry Reid came under fire for saying Thursday that supporters of Cliven Bundy are “domestic terrorists,” and in a TV appearance today he doubled down. He appeared on local Nevada program What’s Your Point? with Dean Heller, Nevada’s other senator, and stood by his remarks, calling Bundy’s supporters “domestic violent terrorist wannabes.” Reid said that Bundy “doesn’t believe that the American government is valid” and doesn’t follow the law, bringing up how hundreds of people showed up armed to defend Bundy to argue that they’re basically engaging in an act of domestic terrorism. “600 people came. Armed.



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Posted By: MissMolly- 4/18/2014 5:02:40 AM     Post Reply
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Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/17/2014 8:56:28 PM     Post Reply
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Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
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Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
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Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
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Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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