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Toomey-Manchin Lets Doctors
Block Your Gun Rights

Investor´s Business Daily, by Editorial

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 4/16/2013 7:10:39 PM

Overreach: The gun control bill lets doctors put your name in the national criminal background check system without telling you. Can the government say you´re crazy and take your guns? It´s already happening. The road to deeper gun control seems like another road paved with good intentions. Since many recent mass shootings have involved shooters with varying degrees of mental impairment, the desire to keep guns out of the genuinely mentally ill seems to be a worthy goal. Yet it is being exploited with definitions so vague and undefined, and with controls so lax, as to become

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: CEP, 4/16/2013 7:19:51 PM     (No. 9279211)

Who will trust their doctor now?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hazymac, 4/16/2013 7:33:56 PM     (No. 9279225)

"How dare IBD advocate for gun ´rights´ for the psychotic."

They´re not. It takes an especially dishonest commenter to invent such an assertion. In fact, dishonesty doesn´t seem to do it justice. "Psychotic" would be more appropriate.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Scribelus, 4/16/2013 7:36:25 PM     (No. 9279230)

Pat Toomey is a total loss. Too bad.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 4/16/2013 7:40:28 PM     (No. 9279234)

In 1974 The State of California dumped most of it´s mental patients onto the streets. The pharmacopia and it´s proponents assured us that modern medicine could manage the ´crazy´ folk better than expensive government hospitals. This cost cutting was clocked in the velvet notion of "Patient´ Rights".

At San Jose State, at that time, the whole "Greek" college thingee was out of fashion so they filled up the old Frat Houses with mental patients.

Aspiring young students (like myself) were surrounded with chain smoking, bathrobe wearing, Thorazine riddled Zombies where Frat Row used to be.

I love me some Ronald Reagan but that was just wrong and may well have contributed to the state of affairs where we now find ourselves.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Hammock, 4/16/2013 7:43:25 PM     (No. 9279241)

I´ve noticed that #3 does not argue in good faith. Straw-man arguments, changing subject, attempted emotional blackmail... I´m looking forward to noticing future tricks and techniques to attempt to manufacture agreement.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: geoman, 4/16/2013 7:51:03 PM     (No. 9279253)

As #3 undoubtedly knows, the focus of the legislation is on guns, not the mentally ill, those who truly present a danger to themselves and others. Those of the gun grabbing ilk are the same who turned out the mentally ill from institutions in some illogical attempt to protect their rights.

The broad purpose of all proposed gun restriction legislation is ultimately to prevent average citizens from possessing firearms that progressive deem offensive. Of course it is the progressives who will define what is offensive. Banning AR platforms because of how they look and restricting magazine capacity serves no useful purpose relative to the overall public safety. What 3# may not know is how strongly millions of American citizens feel about government overreach and posturing in the name of public interest.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: SheikYerBooty, 4/16/2013 8:00:57 PM     (No. 9279268)

It´s undeniable that there is a direct correlation between liberalism and mental illness.

The mass murders were committed by liberal psychopaths. Most of them were either registered Democrats, raised by progressive parents or Muslim.

The liberal culture of immorality, murder of innocent unborns on demand, violence and all the rest of the depravity you can think of fuels this dangerous cocktail of mental illness and rage resulting in these tragedies.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: gasmeterguy, 4/16/2013 8:02:13 PM     (No. 9279269)

Does this mean that every couple who attends marriage counseling will have their second amendment rights taken away?

YOU BETCH´A!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: redink, 4/16/2013 8:13:36 PM     (No. 9279275)

The left is the master of the incremental.
Take smoking: Ban it in public places. Ban it in your homes. Ban it in your cars. But don´t ever make cigarettes illegal.

That´s what we´re seeing and will continue to see with gun control. Vague legislation banning this one or that one. More vague laws banning this group or that group.
They will never ban guns, the will just make them impossible to own or use in an effective manner.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: nonsense, 4/16/2013 8:17:53 PM     (No. 9279278)

Using mental health issues is just another "nudge" in order to restrict ownership. Is this another Cass Sunstein idea?

Any news on censure toward Hollyweird due to violence in films? Any pressure against the video game industry for the horrific violence they espouse? Didn´t think so.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Tucker, 4/16/2013 8:35:11 PM     (No. 9279292)

Obviously cigarette smoking was the test on how to work the system. A little here, a little there and, bingo, the liberals have taken another of your freedoms. For your own good, of course, because you really are too stupid and they know best.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 4/16/2013 8:35:12 PM     (No. 9279293)

There is a lonely corner occupied by fools whose egos require constant gratification derived from expression of every stupid thought that goes through their heads. They just cannot shut up.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: nerdowell, 4/16/2013 8:39:55 PM     (No. 9279304)

#1´s comment tells you all you need to know.

The "mental illness" label is an end-run around due process.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 4/16/2013 8:40:34 PM     (No. 9279307)

Excellent in #4, 7, & 8 to #3´s disingenuous and completely off base remarks.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: veritas, 4/16/2013 8:42:22 PM     (No. 9279308)

Well, doctors are the only variety of human known to never make mistakes, or to act on bias. Ahem.

#4: Listen to that crowd! What a shot! An ace with the Four Iron -- that´s a shot I have never seen before. Congratulations. And thank you.

#11: Bingo. Put another way, "Rust never sleeps."

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
~~ Juvenal, "Satires"

"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm."
~~ James Madison

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Reply 16 - Posted by: engrpat, 4/16/2013 8:58:46 PM     (No. 9279328)

One of the big problems having doctors and the government define mental illness is the definition can be changed at a moments notice without a warning. Soon anyone that even owns a gun will be classed as mentally ill as only a mentally ill person would want one. This bill has to be defeated and Tommey must learn a hard lesson.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: 4Justice, 4/16/2013 9:29:23 PM     (No. 9279371)

What if your doctor doesn´t like you or gets in an argument with you. He can block your rights without even your knowledge!!!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: gabula, 4/16/2013 11:14:12 PM     (No. 9279498)

Times are tough and money is short, but can we start a donation page for #3 to see a shrink... LOL! Or maybe a STINK!

Gabula

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Reply 19 - Posted by: kafir091101, 4/17/2013 12:27:06 AM     (No. 9279541)

#3: Again you totally miss-read the issue.

Firstly: ‘Doctors have professional standards.’ What? Did you just fall off of the turnip truck yesterday? You’ve got to be kidding me.

Have you never read of the abortionist DR Kermit Gosnell?

Second: If passed as is, the Background Check amendment would allow a doctor to take away a person’s Second Amendment rights on a whim.

A mentally ill person should be placed on a No Buy list only after being adjudicated by a court of law and not because of an office visit to some quack or because of notes scribbled on a hospital admittance form by some overworked night nurse.

IBD never advocated gun rights for your crazy friends and relatives. They are advocating for my gun rights.

We are quickly headed for a Police State and people like you are greasing the skids for us when you support this anti-gun crusade being run by those Commie/Fascist POSs in government.

Kafir

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Reply 20 - Posted by: LAW428, 4/17/2013 12:55:57 AM     (No. 9279550)

The psychotic and delusional can be found en masse in the Democrat Party.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 4/17/2013 6:46:50 AM     (No. 9279657)

If you were given a prescription for Wellbutrin to help you quit smoking, this could end up making you ´unfit´ to carry or even possess a firearm under the TooME Munchkin bill. You see, it could be construed as proof serious depression -much like the kind that can be brought on by reading posts from our OFA teleprompter, #3.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: eiobx, 4/17/2013 11:41:12 AM     (No. 9280313)

#19 - It´s worse than you think...soon they´ll all be government doctors....fffffffff

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