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Senate plan would make clogging
left lane a ticketable offense

Tampa Tribune, by Bill Cotterell

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Posted By:Hazymac, 4/13/2013 11:04:13 AM

TALLAHASSEE - Picture this: You´re in the left lane of the interstate, driving a little below the speed limit, when some guy zips up behind you and swerves past you on the right. Then you notice the blue lights flashing. You´re savoring the satisfaction of seeing a trooper actually nab an aggressive driver — until you realize it´s you he´s pulling over. This could happen, if not very often, under a major transportation package expected to be taken up in the Senate Appropriations Committee next week. Introduced by Sen. Jeff Brandes, a St. Petersburg Republican, the bill is a 173-page

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Oh yes! Anyone driving under the speed limit on a limited access highway like an interstate who is passed on the right is driving poorly. And driving well under the speed limit in the bumper (left) lane can be quite dangerous for drivers approaching from behind. Good drivers habitually keep right if they´re not passing.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: G-Tom, 4/13/2013 11:09:56 AM     (No. 9273513)

And THIS is something for the United States Congress to worry about when WE ARE GOING DOWN THE DRAIN?!?!?!?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: mitzi, 4/13/2013 11:13:25 AM     (No. 9273518)

#1 - it´s the FL state senate ... not the US senate.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: cThree, 4/13/2013 11:19:00 AM     (No. 9273528)

"Slower traffic keep right."

Damn right.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: dman, 4/13/2013 11:26:11 AM     (No. 9273536)

It´s called "impeding the flow" in many states.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: wtm, 4/13/2013 11:26:27 AM     (No. 9273537)

Also need to start demanding that people use their "Turn Signals" !!!!

Not much of that happening anymore cause most are talking on their cell phones and driving !

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Reply 6 - Posted by: brownshoepogue, 4/13/2013 11:29:04 AM     (No. 9273542)

"Keep right except to pass" enables the flow of traffic to safely move.
I think folks who stay in the left lane are either not confident of their driving abilities (don´t like that "traveling lane"), are blindly doing what their GPS tells them to do ("stay left for X miles"), or are control freaks who want to impose their own method of speed limit control.



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Reply 7 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 4/13/2013 11:31:49 AM     (No. 9273546)

That law is on the books in Colorado. It doesn´t help much; I can tell you from personal experience. Most of the time, the idiot in the left lane blocking traffic is a woman, talking on a cell phone......I once followed a Mustang convertible, driven by a woman, for 40 miles as she spoke on a cell phone and NEVER MOVED from the left lane. The car had Colorado state representative plates. So much for the law.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Keekng, 4/13/2013 11:32:12 AM     (No. 9273549)

I witnessed a car in Texas being stopped for driving slow in the fast lane. It is a great law!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: fiddle ed, 4/13/2013 11:45:52 AM     (No. 9273566)

Sounds like a great plan to me. If you are in the left lane going 100 miles per hour and see in your mirror another approaching at 101 miles per hour - get over!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: msjena, 4/13/2013 11:51:30 AM     (No. 9273573)

This is the Florida Senate, right? Personally, I think there are more important things to worry about but if the people of Florida want this, so be it.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 4/13/2013 11:53:01 AM     (No. 9273575)

Lotta Type A typists. If the good Lord wanted you to get somewhere that fast, he would´a started you out closer- as my Grandma used to say.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 4/13/2013 11:57:22 AM     (No. 9273585)

When I lived in Minnesota I´d encounter a great many morons who´d act as if they were going to pass and then just sit off my driver´s side door. I wasn´t sure if they were feeling sociable or felt a need to enforce the speed limit by making sure no one could pass. It drove me crazy.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: busterman, 4/13/2013 12:21:58 PM     (No. 9273629)

It´s called common courtesy #11. Sometimes folks are in a hurry. It happens. So be courteous and move out of the way.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 4/13/2013 12:33:01 PM     (No. 9273656)

Amen. I´ve chanced many a ticket for passing these simpletons via the car pool lane.
If you can´t understand the concept of "Slower Traffic Keep Right".....
Get off the road!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 4/13/2013 12:35:42 PM     (No. 9273663)

Funny, but I thought the freeway speed limits were the same no matter what lane you were driving in.....

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Reply 16 - Posted by: MissMann, 4/13/2013 12:36:36 PM     (No. 9273664)

I spent 3 wonderful driving years in Germany where their penchant for following the rules meant that NO ONE cruised in the left lane--you used it to pass and then got back out of the way. Ahhhhh.....

It has been 25 years but I still miss it! Traffic moved so much better and SAFER!

I´m in a little fuel-saver now and spend most of my time in the right lane, but it drives me nuts to see how clogged traffic gets when one righteous idiot refuses to move out of the left lane. THAT´s what is dangerous.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 4/13/2013 12:45:58 PM     (No. 9273679)

#15, the issue is not speed limits. In many states the law say that the left lane is for passing only. If you are in the left lane and there is no car to your right, you should get over, no matter what speed you are going. The example given above was someone traveling below the speed limit in the left lane. The car which "zipped" around him could have been going the speed limit.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: msjena, 4/13/2013 1:06:06 PM     (No. 9273717)

Can we please talk about something really important--like people who lean their seats back on airplanes?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Shells, 4/13/2013 1:26:22 PM     (No. 9273746)

Slow left lane drivers make. Me. Crazy.
The worst offenders are the ones who then speed up when you try to pass them.
Here in CT they´re known as people from MA.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 4/13/2013 1:47:42 PM     (No. 9273764)

Hey! Gotta step back in here and let #13 know that I didn´t advocate nor admit to this practice. I´m the guy with the blinker on all the time.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: stencil, 4/13/2013 2:47:10 PM     (No. 9273832)

There are a couple of other reasons that some people use to drive in the left lane:

1. The heavy wear on the right lane, by dent (hah!) of traffic numbers and heavy trucks, makes the left lane a smoother ride and

2. Some people want to let you know they are entitled to that smoother ride.


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Reply 22 - Posted by: Burger, 4/13/2013 3:25:04 PM     (No. 9273871)

My personal fave is what I call the peel. You are moving along right hand lane at speed, the car behind you wants by, but will not break the speed limit. So, they get in the left lane, get their nose beside you so you can´t pull over left when a slow car in the right lane forces you to slow down and allow the "Peeler" to pass by. I have seen it so often I can easily predict it. Usually out of state plates to. Montana had no speed limit for two years and it was GLORIOUS. Posted the lowest highway fatalities as well those two years.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Dragonslayer2, 4/13/2013 3:55:39 PM     (No. 9273907)

There is no reason why you should get out of the left lane if you are driving at the speed limit or within a few miles of it so that some bozo can break the law.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Rakasha, 4/13/2013 4:18:28 PM     (No. 9273928)

I beg to differ, #23. My cousin was trying to get her daughter, who has nearly died several times due to juvenile diabetes, from their rural home to the hospital. The police met her en route and escorted her part way, but until then she was on her own. I realize that the vast majority of people who are speeding do not have bonafide emergencies but the point is, you just don´t know.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: grounded, 4/13/2013 4:24:35 PM     (No. 9273936)

Out here the speed limit on the rural Interstate is 75 mph. Yet a lot of semis have governors on them which restrict their maximum speed to 65 mph. Invariably one of these operators will attempt to pass another on a slight upgrade and the result is a manuever that takes about five minutes to complete as the difference in their speeds is miniscule. in the meantime traffic backs up for a couple of miles.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: earlybird, 4/13/2013 4:40:40 PM     (No. 9273947)

And when those slooooooow semis pass one another it is only to exchange places. They are both stuck with the same speed limit.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Hazymac, 4/13/2013 5:07:14 PM     (No. 9273975)

"...(D)riving at the speed limit or within a few miles of it...."

Driving below the speed limit in the bumper (left) lane of an interstate highway is boneheaded and rude, not to mention dangerous by forcing other drivers to pass on the right. Such drivers should be ticketed, and if they get all snooty about it, they should lose their licenses. On two lane roads with double yellow lines, it´s terribly frustrating to be stuck behind drivers who can´t or won´t drive the speed limit, especially when they´re doing 35 in a 50 zone, and cars are stacking up behind them. If they´re too infirm to drive the posted speed on clear days when the road is dry, they shouldn´t be driving at all.

Although no one has a legal right to exceed the posted speed limit, most drivers do, if only slightly. I haven´t had a ticket since 1988, and I habitually set the cruise control at 71-73 where the speed limit is 70. Probably three-fourths of the other cars on the road pass me at that speed. Smokey Bear, the local yokels, and the county mounties leave me alone. They´ve got bigger fish to fry. The greatest danger isn´t absolute speed--it´s large speed differentials. I´ve encountered cars proceeding down the interstate at 40 when I was doing 70 while cresting a hill, and had to slam on the brakes to keep from running up their tail pipes. If someone happened along at 90, there´d be a terrible rear end collision.

Since driver´s ed classes in the months before my 16th birthday I have habitually cruised in the right lane unless I´m passing. That´s the safest place to be. It keeps you out of others´ way.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: I want to be president, 4/13/2013 5:31:07 PM     (No. 9273995)



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Reply 29 - Posted by: I want to be president, 4/13/2013 5:41:52 PM     (No. 9274015)

Well, I am one of those left lane drivers, I drive 10 miles over the speed limit and don’t move over, you can go around me if this is not fast enough for you. I also laugh as those you try to pass think that I should now slow down so that they can squeeze back in as the y come up on the slower middle or left lane vehicle. I’m also the person that comes up behind the vehicle doing a slower speed and move to the right to go around them. When I do then the fool doing ninety then cuts between me and the car I’m attempting to pass and them slow and sit in my quarter panel blind spot where I’m unable to return to the left lane. It is just a game and will lead to road rage. I often think that the person speeding and cutting in & out of traffic to be the first in line should have left 15 minutes earlier and enjoyed the ride. In my world we call them fountain darters.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: curious1, 4/13/2013 5:56:39 PM     (No. 9274035)

#29, Interesting attitude. Unless your state doesn´t have the ´move to the right for traffic approaching from the rear´, rule then you´re looking to get a ticket, besides not obeying the laws and disrupting the smooth flow of traffic. Do you ´feel´ the rules of the road for your state have an emanation from a penumbra that says, "...unless the driver in the left lane thinks he´s going fast enough."

Similar to people who think there is some penumbra in the second amendment that adds, "...unless it´s concealed or the state doesn´t want you to."

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Reply 31 - Posted by: birddog, 4/13/2013 8:41:28 PM     (No. 9274178)

A law should mean what it sez...if they put up signs all along the road that say "Slower Traffic Keep Right" then there should be some penalty, applied often enough to have an effect...or it´s the equivalent of using tax dollars to hang "Visualize Whirled Peas" or "Pay it forward" signs every couple of miles.(There was a guy in Raleigh who had a reverse printed, so the offender could read it in their rear-view, bug deflector on the hood of his truck that Said "Slower traffic keep Right" and it would LIGHT UP when he got on someones rump.)

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Reply 32 - Posted by: pensom2, 4/14/2013 12:55:32 AM     (No. 9274356)

Plenty of self-righteous bozo´s who can´t comprehend that safety laws apply to driving on interstate highways--not just speed limit laws.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Dragonslayer2, 4/14/2013 9:03:24 AM     (No. 9274593)

There´s a reason why they refer to it as a "speed limit". It is a limit on legal speed. It is not an objective to be maintained. If you fall, as I suggested, "a few miles" below the limit, you should not be treated as a fool.

If you move over so some jerk can go ten miles fast than the limit, you are likely to get stuck behind someone going ten miles below it. My advice to speed nuts is:
" Think a little harder; plan a little better; leave home a little sooner; stay off my bumper." Thinking may be the challenge.

I am 82; I got here by serving 20 years in the military,flying more than million miles; two wars over enemy territory; 43 countries, six continents. Like John Wayne toilet paper, I don´t take any crap off of anybody.



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Reply 34 - Posted by: toddh, 4/14/2013 10:45:23 AM     (No. 9274769)

All of these self-appointed law enforcement officers - do they calibrate their speedometers? If they don´t, they´re strictly enforcing an approximate speed. They´re too *immature* to handle the responsibility of driving and have absolutely no business operating a motor vehicle on a public road.

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Former U.S. Senator Bob Kerrey thinks President Barack Obama, a fellow Democrat, was re-elected in 2012 because he ´sucked less´ than former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. The Nebraskan straight-talker told MailOnline in an exclusive interview that Obama isn´t up to the job of bringing liberals and conservatives to the table to rescue America´s slowly choking entitlement programs. And Obama, he said Wednesday in his Manhattan office, knew full well he was lying when he promised that the Affordable Care Act would allow Americans to keep insurance plans they liked. ´He had to know he was misleading the audience,´ Kerrey said

Panel’s Warning on Climate
Risk: Worst Is Yet to Come

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New York Times, by Justin Gillis    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/30/2014 9:03:23 PM     Post Reply
YOKOHAMA, Japan — Climate change is already having sweeping effects on every continent and throughout the world’s oceans, scientists reported Monday, and they warned that the problem is likely to grow substantially worse unless greenhouse emissions are brought under control. The report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations group that periodically summarizes climate science, concluded that ice caps are melting, sea ice in the Arctic is collapsing, water supplies are coming under stress, heat waves and heavy rains are intensifying, coral reefs are dying, and fish and many other creatures are migrating toward the poles or

College Football Unionization
Decision Opens a Can of Worms

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Reason Magazine, by S.M. Oliva    Original Article
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A National Labor Relations Board official has given the green light to Northwestern University football players to form a union. The March 26 decision by the NLRB´s Chicago regional director, Peter Sung Ohr, held that scholarship football players are "employees" for purposes of federal labor law. Ohr rejected the longstanding view of Northwestern and the National Collegiate Athletic Association that players are "student-athletes" rather than employees. While Ohr´s decision is hardly the final word on this issue, it does accelerate the legal and political battle against the NCAA and its century-old amateurism rules. Is Football Academic? Kain Colter played quarterback at

U.S. to require rear cameras
in all vehicles by 2018

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Detroit News, by David Shepardson    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/31/2014 2:49:26 PM     Post Reply
Washington — The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Monday finalized long-delayed rules that will require automakers to install back-up cameras in all vehicles by May 2018. The new rules set rear visibility standards that automakers will initially be able to meet only by installing cameras. At the same time, major automakers said Monday they are petitioning the Obama administration to let them end the use of side view mirrors if they install cameras that could perform the same task — a move that could improve fuel efficiency. (Snip) “We are committed to protecting the most vulnerable victims of backover

Report: Obama Admin Released
Tens of Thousands of Illegal
Immigrant Criminals

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Matthew Boyle    Original Article
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President Obama’s Department of Homeland Security caught then released 68,000 aliens who had previously been convicted of a crime, a new report from the Center for Immigration Studies shows. The report, provided to Breitbart News ahead of its late Sunday evening release, reviews internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) metrics to conclude that the Obama administration released 35 percent—or 68,000—convicted criminal aliens back into the U.S. general population when they could have been deported. (Snip) In response to these findings from CIS that follow up on his office’s report last week, Sessions said immigration law in America has essentially ceased to

Global Warming Will Cause War,
Pestilence, Famine and Death,
Says New IPCC Report Inevitably

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Breitbart London, by James Delingpole    Original Article
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Today sees the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change´s (IPCC) latest findings on the state of "global warming" and the news isn´t good. Here are some of the highlights: Giant malarial mosquitoes the size of crane flies may descend en masse and drain us of our blood so quickly with their powerful razor sharp probosces that we won´t even have time to be infected - we´ll be dead before we hit the floor; Bangladesh, Tuvalu, The Maldives and Florida will all be submerged; Four horsemen with skulls for faces, glowing red eyes and huge scythes will gallop across

A cup of Earl Grey ´as good as statins´
at fighting heart disease, study finds

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Telegraph [UK], by Alice Philipson    Original Article
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Drinking Earl Grey tea could help guard against heart disease, it has emerged, after a study found that bergamot extract--a key ingredient in the hot drink--is just as effective as statins at controlling cholesterol. Scientists believe bergamot, a fragrant Mediterranean citrus fruit which gives Earl Grey tea its distinctive flavour, can significantly lower cholesterol. They say it contains enzymes known as HMGF (hydroxy methyl glutaryl flavonones) which can attack proteins in the body known to cause heart disease. The study found bergamot could even be as effective as statins, used to control cholesterol but which can have side effects in


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