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Gay Marriage: Bill O´Reilly
Misses the Point

American Thinker, by Monte Kuligowski

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Posted By:magnante, 4/8/2013 10:57:12 AM

During the highly publicized exchange between Bill O´Reilly and Laura Ingraham on gay marriage, O´Reilly made this statement: "There are Bible thumpers, and all they do is say, ´I object to gay marriage because God objects to it.´ You don´t win a policy debate in America with that." Really? Before central control out of Washington was imposed in 2003, policy arguments for criminalizing homosexual acts were won explicitly "with that." And because of "that," the idea of gay marriage has been unthinkable throughout the history of the American nation.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: LudicrousSextus, 4/8/2013 11:10:33 AM     (No. 9265234)

It´s pretty amusing watching this all play out. The gay ´activist´ scenario basically antagonized the APA into removing ´gay´ from the DSM-II in the early 70´s - and pretty much every ´advance´ since then has resulted from the same thing - gay activists antagonizing people who don´t believe as they do.

And O´Reilly does miss the point - perhaps he should inform his viewers what the ´gay lobby´ has done to American children over the last dozen years of preaching ´Normal and Healthy!´ to captive grammar school kids, indoctrinating them with garbage advice - to the tune of (currently) 1000 new cases of HIV in 12-21 year old males *monthly* - the only demographic where HIV is still on the upswing.

We´re basically just watching mental health issues ´normalized´ in this country at this point.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 4/8/2013 11:38:12 AM     (No. 9265291)

BOR misses the point by a mile. Has he not considered why a society should care about the sexual practices of its members, other than for religious reasons? What is as stake for a society to encourage and certify heterosexual unions, as has been the case since ancient times? Is it not to ensure it can continue to exist by producing new healthy and productive members, and stable social units (families). This is why all societies in the past (including pagan ones, which did not eschew homosexual relations) promoted and protected heterosexual marriage as the cornerstone of their social structure. Surely O´Reilly as a former history teacher should know this.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: mickturn, 4/8/2013 11:44:40 AM     (No. 9265305)

No Spin Zone is a Joke...more like the Bill BS Fest!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: FelineFine, 4/8/2013 11:49:19 AM     (No. 9265316)

Does anyone still watch this BORe?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: terrywhite, 4/8/2013 11:53:44 AM     (No. 9265328)

Guess Mr. Bill never heard of Martin Luther King, Jr., who marched and demanded equality for blacks while referring to and quoting what God and his justice as presented in His word, the Bible, demand. In other words, our public policy should be based on unchanging truths and righteousness, not on the whims of the day. I can´t imagine a situation where doing what is right will counter what the Bible says! In this case, it affirms that same sex relations are wrong.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: msjena, 4/8/2013 12:16:45 PM     (No. 9265364)

We never would have ended slavery in this country if we had had to deal with those Bible-thumpers. Oh wait....

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Reply 7 - Posted by: absalom, 4/8/2013 12:20:24 PM     (No. 9265375)

Does the institution of marriage, which evolved from the dawn of man, in order to socialize children and self regulate sexual activity, pre-date its religious formalities? Yes or no. If yes, then the institution can be firmly defended as a bedrock of culture and civilization; w/o the need for quotations from the Bible, as worthy as they are. Formal religion, due to multiple self inflicted woulds, is held in low esteem by many. Using it to make the case against homosexual ´marriage´ is a weak reed and a mistake. And O´Reilly is indeed a moron.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: belwhatter, 4/8/2013 12:23:00 PM     (No. 9265382)

The Bible set out the laws for living,and there were ten commandments as well as numerous other cautionary statements and illustrations by metaphor on how to do this. The dangers of deliberately ignoring God´s laws are all around us unfortunately as man sets himself over God. Marriage is primarily for the procreation of the species and as such should be protected. Sinfully ignoring this brings a terrible result, the physical body breaks down to match the break down of moral laws.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: sunsong, 4/8/2013 12:46:54 PM     (No. 9265411)

This silly little man misses the point. America is NOT a theocracy. If you want that move to Iran or Saudi Arabia where nobody can *violate* what their good book says.

This is America where people are free to do what others consider sin. The Catholic believe that divorce and adultey and pre-marital sex are sins - but people are free to do them.

This argument was lost a long time ago. O Reilly is right. People who want to force others to live by their beliefs or their religion or their morality are immoral! It is about freedom in America and those who are attempting to abolish free will are the true sinners here.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: marthaville, 4/8/2013 12:59:30 PM     (No. 9265433)

Is O´Reilly homosexual or bisexual? We learned a few years ago he likes to talk dirty on the telephone, but his opposition to what Laura Ingraham said makes me wonder if he is intimately familiar with the practices of homosexuals.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: veritas, 4/8/2013 1:42:19 PM     (No. 9265495)

"Bill O´Reilly Misses the Point"

I think that headline might have been swiped from Taranto´s "News of the Tautological."

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Dignitary Protection, 4/8/2013 2:06:11 PM     (No. 9265531)

In answer to #4, yes I do...BUT I DVR it. I still like Dennis Miller, Bernie Goldberg and the like but fast forward through all the liberals.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ebuilder, 4/8/2013 3:15:23 PM     (No. 9265627)

What if everything has a moral context? What if wisdom and discernment and every word in every sentence, in order to make sense, have a moral context? What if sanity itself has a moral context? So that when you try to look "fair" and "amoral" and think you can look out for everyone, including the rich bubble of the hour, your circle of "strange" and narcissist luftmenschen who do not have a controlling legal authority and do not want one -- maybe it is your side that is one dimensional. Is it better to be fair, or to be stupid? Is their a moral context for "stupid" vs. "ignorant"? "Stupid" is a stubborn schlimiel who will finally ruin a country by championing 50 equal and polyamorous internationalist moralities under one big tent, unprincipled social contract, for fairness sake -- then realize he will have to get the folks to champion the need for something like sharia law to guide all men back to the ability to make sense based on "something." "Stupid" goes forward with no vision towards the brave new world of transformed morality. Can you possibly understand this, or do you really "know not what you do?" PS -- the Army Training Manual just called Christian evangelists "extremists like Al Qiadda". Any vision of where this is going?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rinktum, 4/8/2013 3:40:30 PM     (No. 9265657)

Bill O´Reilly- I´d like to buy him for what he´s worth and sell him for what he thinks he´s worth.

He is so sure of his opinions that he rejects out of hand any differing thoughts from anyone else. This is not a wise man. I believe it is called being a foolish blowhard.

He needs to stick to writing non-fiction for children. He did write a great book about Lincoln that my 11 year old grandson loved.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: bemused conservative, 4/8/2013 3:52:07 PM     (No. 9265672)

I love how arguments against same sex marriage always reference what God wants, as though anyone knows. I would think that if God disapproved of homosexuality it wouldn´t exist. Of course, that´s assuming that God gives a rat´s keister about this blue dot at all.

Stop dragging "God´s will" into it and stand on your own feet. You don´t like homos. Great. Don´t marry one.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Razorgirl, 4/8/2013 4:26:48 PM     (No. 9265708)

Have you noticed that from the start this administration has made it their goal to change the definitions of things or to rename things? Their current cause is the definition of marriage. So what will they choose next? Oh yes, no more illegal immigrant. They believe if they change the words they can more easily control the conversation. And guess what? It´s working.

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