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How America Lost
Its Four Great Generals

Commentary Magazine, by Max Boot

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Posted By:StormCnter, 4/7/2013 3:01:19 PM

The quasi-official ideology of the U.S. armed forces holds that generals are virtually interchangeable, that individual personalities don’t matter much, that ordinary grunts are in any case more important than their leaders, and that what really counts are larger systems that make a complex bureaucracy function. There is some truth to all of this. But for all of the bureaucratic heft of the services and the heroism of ordinary soldiers, it is hard to imagine the Civil War having been won without Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan—or World War II without Marshall, Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley, Arnold, LeMay, Nimitz, Halsey,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: The Advocate, 4/7/2013 4:08:42 PM     (No. 9264197)

Obama deliberately degrades the us military.
Our nancy boy fraud occupying the wh promotes traitors and yes men.
Brennan at CIA completes the positioning of the Enemy within.
Holder protects him and shred the Constitution.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 4/7/2013 4:27:58 PM     (No. 9264222)

Not to mention Hagel at Defense, and Napolitano at DHS, #1.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: danvillebill, 4/7/2013 4:56:08 PM     (No. 9264253)

Max Boot is one of the best military writers alive.

Thanks for posting.

Long read but worth it.

He quotes Mattis as follows:

“You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap around women for five years because they didn’t wear a veil. You know guys like that ain’t got no manhood left anyway, so it’s a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them.”

Kind of Pattonish with a Marine flourish.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Muguy, 4/7/2013 5:09:12 PM     (No. 9264267)

Having talked yesterday to an Army soldier who was in Iraq for six years, there is no way our "make nice and be friends" approach will ever defeat the hard core islamonazi. He said "their culture is 800 years behind" and they are not about to live like we Americans live.

My father was in the Operation Torch invasion of North Africa in WW II and noticed a woman who was heavily laden with whatever wood that was to be found while a man with her only carried one stick--it was to beat the woman when he thought she was moving too slowly....that was 71 years ago!

Things aren´t likely to change very quickly there.



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Reply 5 - Posted by: lavalette, 4/7/2013 5:11:39 PM     (No. 9264269)

Sodomy on the ships, buggery in the barracks, women in combat, unilateral nuclear disarmament, a sequester on top of budget cuts, reductions in forces and reductions in promised benefits. This is Obama, the man America elected twice to show our fighting men just what we think of them.

Now the typical soldier or sailor spends twice as much time in political indoctrination classes as they do training for battle. Our four stars spend four times as much. Patriotic and Christian members of the service are being systematically passed over and pushed out. Soon we will have the military Obama and the Democrats want. One unsuited for our defense by tailored for our subjegation.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: califedup, 4/7/2013 6:12:06 PM     (No. 9264310)

Dictator Obama and the democrat party communists view the military as the last remaining roadblock to their seizure of permanent power and the imposition of a totalitarian government over our country. What runs like a red thread through Max Boot´s article is the systematic weeding out by Dictator Obama and his democrat party communists of generals who will not blindly do his bidding without question in return for high rank and prestigeous posts. These retired or forced out generals may be recalled to duty one day in the event of a Civil War to command the forces against the Dictator Obama and the democrat party communists´ tyrannical government.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: reilly, 4/7/2013 6:16:07 PM     (No. 9264312)


Am reading the new WWII history by Antony Beevor. Did you know that Russian general Georgi Zhukov basically WON the Second World War? It started when he smoked the Japanese at the battle of Khalkhin Gol, then proceeded to use the tactics he learned against the Germans. He and Ike were great friends. Just remember this. This Obama fool will pass.


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Reply 8 - Posted by: pinger, 4/7/2013 6:39:22 PM     (No. 9264351)

....and those in the wings place a far greater value on their careers than they do in their country. Those four-stars who currently work for the CIC and don´t hate it are losers despite their years of service.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 4/7/2013 6:57:25 PM     (No. 9264365)

"Our Country won´t go on forever if we stay soft as we are now. There won´t be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race!"

-- Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

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Reply 10 - Posted by: kanphil, 4/7/2013 7:48:27 PM     (No. 9264394)

I liked the article primarily because it put into perspective General Petraus´ entire career and did not focus on his fly zipper issues, as did some of the old biddies who post on this site.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: absalom, 4/7/2013 7:48:42 PM     (No. 9264396)

So four political Generals who achieved absolutely squat on the battlefield are Boot´s idea of greatness. Really? Typical ignorant blather from Boot whose major attribute is hot air. Our last great General, in the mold of Caesar, was MacArthur w/Schwarzkopf and Franks as very honorable mentions. Boot is a clown.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: octrojan, 4/7/2013 8:36:11 PM     (No. 9264452)

Reasonable people would certainly differ with #11, to say the least. McArthur was pretty overrated, as many big mess ups as successes. I´ll take Boot´s analysis.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LadyVet, 4/7/2013 9:03:22 PM     (No. 9264470)

Obama revealed himself to be an insecure little man when he accepted McCrystal´s resignation.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: StuartL, 4/7/2013 9:18:08 PM     (No. 9264476)

Full points to Max Boot for reporting. Zero points for analysis.

How blinkered must one be to say “We can only hope that President Obama’s cavalier attitude toward the loss of their institutional knowledge, their leadership abilities, and their complex understanding of a dangerous world does not prove to be a tragedy for the nation” – when it’s clear to any halfway wide-awake observer that the loss of these officers’ knowledge, leadership, and understanding is essential to the plans of the Muslim Brother currently befouling the White House?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: absalom, 4/7/2013 9:38:23 PM     (No. 9264486)

#11. Indeed reasonable people often disagree and people talking utter nonsense assert Mac Arthur had a many successes as failures; complete malarkey. MacArthur, as Manchester cogently argued in ´American Caesar´ was Pershing´s most important battlefield commander and instrumental in the 1918 offensive which won the war; during which he won the CMH for gallantry under fire. As for WWII, he defeated the Empire of Japan w/one ally, the US Navy, while receiving a third of the resources directed toward Europe. His island hopping tactic of bypassing Japanese strongholds was a strategic master stroke that avoided at least 150,000 casualties and shortened the war by some two years. This alone ranks him as one of the Great Captains of history along w/Alexander, Caesar, Napoleon; among others. His landing at Inchon, Korea which enveloped the enemy was another classic master stroke, rivaling Hindenburg´s encirclement and crushing of the Russians at Tannenberg in ´14. Obviously Boot´s idea of greatness is some Pentagon paper pusher.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Salt5792, 4/7/2013 9:58:49 PM     (No. 9264496)

MacArthur should have stopped the northward push in Korea as soon as a defensive perimeter could be established. China would have stayed out of it and the territory and population available to North Korea would have been insufficient to cause much geopolitical aggravation. Instead, the South got pushed back to the 38th parallel and we have a consequential NORK threatening peace in the area.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: get er done, 4/7/2013 11:25:50 PM     (No. 9264579)

Another argument for requiring that a CIC have military experience. Those who do not should be required to spend a summer at Camp Lejeune in Marine Corps basic training.

I read that generals and admirals are being retired because they do not answer the question, "Will your order your troops to fire on Americans?" in the affirmative.

I would like to see the same standards that were applied to Petraus applied to our current CIC.



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Reply 18 - Posted by: absalom, 4/7/2013 11:40:18 PM     (No. 9264596)

#16. A demurral. MacArthur internalized Machiavelli´s dictum (paraphrased); ´never wound an enemy you can kill´. As a visionary, he saw China as a long term threat to the USA and wanted to fight then on his terms but the politics of DC wouldn´t hear it. Now, three generations later it´s still our problem.

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