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Data Leak Shakes Notion of Secret
Offshore Havens and, Possibly, Nerves

New York Times, by Andrew Higgins

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Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 4/4/2013 9:59:57 PM

Brussels - They are a large and diverse group that includes a Spanish heiress; the daughter of the former Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos; and Denise Rich, the former wife of the disgraced trader Marc Rich, who was pardoned by President Bill Clinton. (Snip) But the enormous size of the data dump obtained by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, a Washington-based group that, along with affiliated news media organizations, announced its coup on Thursday, has punched a big hole in the secrecy that surrounds what the Tax Justice Network estimates are assets

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BTW, the assets are worth at least $21T held in these offshore accounts...

Wonder where our money goes when slated for "humanitarian aid" to some third world country, or bribes to petty government officials [like Bill Clinton mentioned]? Or, stolen oil profits and drug laundering? Now, this is a data dump the Internet was made for to see the light of day.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: john56, 4/4/2013 11:21:21 PM     (No. 9260175)

What was that parody song that Rush used to introduce news about Denise Rich and the pardons sold by Clinton to enrich his "charities" and elect Hillary! in New York?

Think it had to do with her endowments, if I remember. Maybe the number 42 was in the title...

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 4/5/2013 1:55:45 AM     (No. 9260273)

I remember that the Clinton pardons were cleared by Holder.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 4/5/2013 7:13:44 AM     (No. 9260438)

I hope the governments get hold of this PRIVATELY HELD wealth. Screw those richies but good! Government knows best what to do with money, espcially the government run by Zerobama.

Heard there is a big run at Lowes and Home Depot on pitchforks and torches. Better hurry, won´t last long.

When it finally hits the fan, I´d hate to be a politician or long-time government layabout, which is most of them. Eventually, even the "poor", who are anything but here in America, are going to figure out the government is screwing them to line their own pockets.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: dudette4freedom, 4/5/2013 7:14:28 AM     (No. 9260440)

nothing here on American politicians sadly.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Trigger2, 4/5/2013 7:29:38 AM     (No. 9260463)

I suspect the preponderance of those 4,000 Americans are demonrats who want everybody else to pay taxes.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: privateer, 4/5/2013 7:39:50 AM     (No. 9260476)

And count on the New Yawk Slimes to mention no names of Hollyweird Celebs or O´Trauma bundlers.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: NYBruin, 4/5/2013 8:03:46 AM     (No. 9260516)

I wonder how much US foreign aid (especially to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan) ultimately found its way into these accounts?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: stryker714, 4/5/2013 8:18:53 AM     (No. 9260538)

It would be nice to see some of the sick Hollywood leftist elites outed for off shore bank accounts.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Fleetusa, 4/5/2013 8:19:05 AM     (No. 9260539)

Yahoo!!!

Light of day is the best bleach

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 4/5/2013 8:36:48 AM     (No. 9260578)

This sounds as if the information was obtained through questionable actions (perhaps illegal). And in this country, the way the information was obtained may preclude its use in a court of law. Thus, embarrassment would be the only damage. I don´t begrudge those with wealth that shield their money from socialist goobernments. I wish I had enough to join them! In a way they are the crest of the wave rebels. They clearly are rebelling against taxes and the use of their money by goobernments. It’s a form of protest and thus in this country should be considered political speech and protected (wishful thinking to be sure). Bottom line, I salute those that hide their money from ravenous goobernments.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LZK, 4/5/2013 9:01:03 AM     (No. 9260648)

How sweet it is!!

Delicious piece of news.....

What goes around -- comes around....

Ole bubba clinton and the bubbette are gonna get some pay back for the "Richie Rich deals".....

Oh -- yeah!!

LZK

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Reply 12 - Posted by: zek, 4/5/2013 9:14:46 AM     (No. 9260690)

The MSM will never let the names of a leftist come out on this. Watch for major media coverup and only people who oppose the regime will be outed.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: pindarjr, 4/5/2013 9:17:44 AM     (No. 9260695)

One company (http://www.offshorehavens.net/) offers assistance to clients, including even those with modest incomes, in taking advantage of over 100 offshore venues that offer "asset protection." I wonder how many of these venues are covered by the information obtained by ICIJ. In any case, this lovely cache of data is certain to provide for a lot of fun reading in the months to come. Recommended background music for the revelations to come: Tennessee Ernie Ford singing, "In the Middle of an Island."

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Alecto2, 4/5/2013 9:25:43 AM     (No. 9260707)

Here we go again with the conflating of words. Tax avoidance is legal, tax evasion is illegal. I suspect many of these cases will involve tax evasion but many are not. Then it is likely a number will be for reasons other than tax saving, like getting money another level removed from grasping tax/political entities.

Taxing entities need ever increasing sums of "revenue" but as the US is one of the few that tax on worldwide income it will be easy for the IRS to sift evaders and avoiders. But I suspect an additional objective is to manipulate public opinion against any offshore strategies. After all, if all money is onshore it is easier to get at.

Just think IRA and 401K versus the offshore versions of these in self directed trust accounts.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: MattMusson, 4/5/2013 9:28:44 AM     (No. 9260714)

Just before Cyprus closed the banks - billions flowed out from ranking officials and connected families. Now we know where that money went.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: fishbone, 4/5/2013 9:40:19 AM     (No. 9260750)

Wow! How did I end up on Democrat Underground?

I guess I tend to be more of a privacy advocate. Tax avoidance, tax evasion? It´s all the same to a regressive, progressive taxing governmental agency which I believe is totally illegal in the way they approach confiscatory taxation. Tax court? It´s all stacked against you. If you have no place to hide, then you "belong" to the ones with the biggest stick.

Sorry, I ramble.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: davesenior, 4/5/2013 9:44:02 AM     (No. 9260762)

This leak of illegally obtained information is just the latest manifestation of Occupy Wall Street, which is just the lastest manifestation of the Bolsheviks. Shame the rich, then kill them, then burn their money, then starve and blame the rich people. Yippee! Revolution, ain´t it grand? If you rejoice over this theft of private information, you are rejoicing over the victory of Marxism and the death of capitalism. Enjoy.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Keekng, 4/5/2013 9:45:20 AM     (No. 9260767)

I want to see the list of names with accompanying identifier for gub´mint employees.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 4/5/2013 10:43:24 AM     (No. 9260896)

I´m not so sure digging into people´s private lives is a good thing. Is this just world governments´ out to grab as much of our savings they can? Oh wait, since this is the NYT I´m sure its a bad thing.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: RancherJack, 4/5/2013 10:44:15 AM     (No. 9260898)

Got no dog in this hunt



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Reply 21 - Posted by: pickle1, 4/5/2013 11:29:53 AM     (No. 9261014)

Bill Clinton, one of many, comes to mind. He is always bragging how he has helped Haiti. Haiti does not appear to have been helped one little bit. Could this be one of the ways the Clintons have become wealthy? It´s out and out thievery and they should be punished. I am sure Obama is doing the same thing. All with our tax money.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Hazymac, 4/5/2013 11:32:47 AM     (No. 9261020)

Although I´m an impecunious individual with (as yet) nothing worth hiding, I´m in complete sympathy with those, whether conservative or liberal, who want to keep their assets sheltered and hidden. The "Tax Justice Network" thinks it´s justice when people who´ve been successful are separated from their money. The TJN are actually totalitarians, and they´d steal every cent if they could. Justice, my eye. Just another thief to shoot.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: pickle1, 4/5/2013 11:33:04 AM     (No. 9261021)

It´s not about tax evasion or tax avoidance; it´s about the American peoples taxes being stolen.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: nevernaught, 4/5/2013 11:33:47 AM     (No. 9261024)

To start with, why can´t a wealthy person keep their money where they feel it is secure. The fact that they have money in a bank, no matter where it is located, isn´t against the law as far as I can see. What is against the law or should be is divulging personal and private information. Surely this data can´t be obtained without breaking multiple laws, yet I hardly ever read about arrests and prosecutions for stealing this type of information.

Entrepreneurs and others who create jobs and growth are leaving this country in droves because they are targeted by know nothings in the US government who are pure socialists and Marxists. They complain because they can´t get their hands on one hundred percent of your money. They are mad because people with substantial wealth can just leave and live somewhere else. That doesn´t set too well with Obama voters who are on the dole and want to stay there at someone else´s expense. The truth is, the Socialists are running out of other peoples money.



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Reply 25 - Posted by: Coy860, 4/5/2013 11:44:22 AM     (No. 9261051)

If I had any money, I certainly would want to put it in a safe place away from bloated government.
Who in their right mind would sit and do nothing and wait for this gov´t to act like Cyprus? It is our obligation to survive.
Unfortunately I don´t, so I won´t.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Butch59, 4/5/2013 11:50:19 AM     (No. 9261064)

Rest assured that if or when any names come out of this, you won´t see any Dims in there. Only Republicans. Remember, they are the greedy rich. Dims are sooooo nice. And as Leona Helmsly said "only the little people pay taxes".

And count me as one of those not willing to rip the wealthy. A great many of them achieved it by hard work and long hours. And they paid their taxes. And I like most of us here, would like to join them. I know that I wont, so I´m happy with what I have.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: janjan, 4/5/2013 11:53:27 AM     (No. 9261071)

Agree with #3 but it will be amusing to watch the Hollywood Socialist Liberal crowd squirm a little.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Silverbyte, 4/5/2013 12:42:18 PM     (No. 9261176)

The article didn´t even consider the effects of confiscatory tax rates. What enlightenment, tax lawyers for rich people don´t advise "just bend over". Who knew

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Reply 29 - Posted by: dman, 4/5/2013 12:56:37 PM     (No. 9261216)

Anonymous numbered accounts should not be recognized. That would include Switzerland.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Donna M, 4/5/2013 1:20:58 PM     (No. 9261255)

I´m sure the MSM will find a Romney or two in this listing. Then it will be headlines. If not, ho hum. Move on, nothing to see here. But a whole lot of doctors, dentists and entrepreneurs trying to keep a few bucks or pounds out of the grasp of the IRS, Inland Revenue or the EU, will be raped.

FYI, Denise Rich renounced her US citizenship a while ago--for Austria.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: killerbee, 4/5/2013 1:48:29 PM     (No. 9261291)

#24: exactly. The only thing I care about is how much of this money is from American taxes. How many despots have used our tax-payer funded aid to enrich themselves and squirrel away billions?

Otherwise, if it´s tax avoidance, I expect it to happen. What chaps my hide is the same people hiding their $$ in these accounts are the same ones who support Occupy Wall Street and the notion of a 1% that needs to pay more in taxes. What a load.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: larryp, 4/5/2013 2:13:18 PM     (No. 9261324)

the ultimate "on-shore" accournt is the 401K accounts to the tune or $19 trillion.
ow that would do a lot to cure the shortage, and allow Obama to runuo the tote again.
There havebeen hearingand Requests for Information. the Profat the New School-Theresa Ghirducci (sp) is the creator.
she alos said that the tax deduction shuld cease too, as it is $80 billion.
Better start taking the money out now ou ofyr 401K, penalties or not. Look what happened to Cyprus, they can just take it!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: toddh, 4/5/2013 2:22:34 PM     (No. 9261336)

Offshore data leak - those damned data companies! Now they are going to spew data dispersants into the gulf to cover it up. Taxpayers are going to have to fund a decade of PSA advertising to deal with the financial and mental depression. Think of all the baby chicks covered in gooey sulfurous data. All of the internet cafes that will never recover. I bet the data was fracked.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: laurahome, 4/5/2013 2:32:01 PM     (No. 9261341)

#27, butch59, I´m with you. What other people have is their business, not mine. If they obtained wealth wrongfully, they will pay a penalty either here or hereafter. I don´t have enough time during the day to worry about what other people have that I don´t. For that reason, I´d make a terrible Democrat.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: mws50, 4/5/2013 3:32:39 PM     (No. 9261401)

I´m with #20...

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Reply 36 - Posted by: LAW428, 4/5/2013 4:05:15 PM     (No. 9261459)

I am confident at some point, along the line of misdeeds, we DO have a "dog in this hunt." We just don´t realize it.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: sanvitoalum, 4/5/2013 4:16:23 PM     (No. 9261484)

I´m sure that there a more than a few who have been outed who may not take kindly to this group of "journalists" who dug all this up. They might want to keep an eye on the rear view mirror!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 4/5/2013 10:42:30 PM     (No. 9261982)

I agree with #37. There´s WAY too much money out there that hasn´t made it´s way to buy the influence of US politicians.
The question isn´t ´when?´, it´s ´who?´

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already

Glen Campbell has been
moved into a facility

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People Magazine, by Gilliam Telling    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 4/17/2014 6:58:48 PM     Post Reply
Glen Campbell has been suffering from Alzheimer´s for over three years, but the Grammy-winning singer, 78, has recently moved into a facility, PEOPLE has confirmed. "He was moved to an Alzhemier´s facility last week," says a family friend. "I´m not sure what the permanent plan is for him yet. We´ll know more next week." The "Rhinestone Cowboy" crooner first opened up about having Alzheimer´s to PEOPLE in an exclusive 2011 interview. Campbell and his fourth wife, Kim Woolen, decided to go public with the news because Campbell hoped to embark on a final farewell live tour. The couple wanted his

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
We Should Like About Hillary Clinton

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PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:33:53 AM     Post Reply
The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

Those ‘rogue’ agents
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New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:37:07 AM     Post Reply
Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations


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