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Defense Department says giving
Purple Heart to Fort Hood
survivors would hurt Hasan trial

Fox News, by Pamela Browne, Catherine Herridge

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Posted By:JoniTx, 3/30/2013 3:20:19 AM

Legislation that would award the injured from the 2009 Fort Hood shooting the Purple Heart would adversely affect the trial of Maj. Nidal Hasan by labeling the attack terrorism, according to a Defense Department document obtained by Fox News. The document comes following calls from survivors and their families for the military honor, because they say Fort Hood was turned into a battlefield when Hasan opened fire during the November 2009 attack. Fox News is told that the DOD “position paper” is being circulated specifically in response to the proposed legislation. The document reads in part:

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: chumley, 3/30/2013 3:31:14 AM     (No. 9250855)

More PC stupidity from the military. Sadly, it is par for the course.
Think of the most bonehead idea you can possibly imagine, and some deskbound officer has already issued it as an order.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 3/30/2013 3:36:52 AM     (No. 9250856)

"Cynical travesty" is the perfect description for this act and any consequences. "Workplace violence" has nothing to do with terrorism, whereas a Muslim in a US Army uniform mowing down troops on a military base and yelling "God is Great!" is an unarguable act of terrorism.

If you need a memory refresher, there´s a good summary and analysis of the attack at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

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Reply 3 - Posted by: CzndCitzen, 3/30/2013 5:47:15 AM     (No. 9250884)

If it walks like a duck....

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Spidey, 3/30/2013 7:11:07 AM     (No. 9250916)

This situation was really the first tip off of how ant-American and anti-military Obama is. Him going to the Interior Dept´s of Indian affairs and giving a shout out to a big shot Indian before even mentioning this shooting showed how unserious he was about the deaths of American troops. Of course there were no calls for gun control after this.

As commander in chief,it´s Obama´s primary job to stand behind the troops but if you look at this and he VA backlog,they show how Obama totally lacks respect for the military. It makes me sick when he uses these people as photo op props.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Trigger2, 3/30/2013 7:32:37 AM     (No. 9250939)

Oh sure, the WH can´t go against a brother jihadist.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 3/30/2013 7:38:02 AM     (No. 9250949)

Why is he even being tried? He was caught in the act of killing our service men and women. He should have been taken to the nearest tree and hanged then and there, IMHO.
Do I care if Hasan receives a "fair trial"?

NO! Did he give the innocent people at Fort Hood a fair chance when he suddenly opened fire on them when they had no way to respond at that moment?

As I said, the nearest tree and a rope would have been justice.




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Reply 7 - Posted by: radvet1, 3/30/2013 7:38:19 AM     (No. 9250950)

This is a despicable delay of justice. Put this murderer on trial and execute him. Timothy was indicted 6 months after bombing and the trial began 2 yrs after. The citizens of this country should be outraged about this but the media is silent.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: radvet1, 3/30/2013 7:39:21 AM     (No. 9250952)

I meant Timothy McVeigh but I was so outraged, I forgot to type it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Pros7767, 3/30/2013 7:49:37 AM     (No. 9250960)

Foreign enemies are the least of our problems. We are being destroyed from within.

All while mooch and Jill make a big show of supporting military families. They´re just using them as props. Despicable!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ramona, 3/30/2013 8:03:44 AM     (No. 9250976)

Poster #4 says: "As commander in chief,it´s Obama´s primary job to stand behind the troops..." but I can think of others, more admirable, who would stand in front and lead them. This one grows more despicable each day, in every way.

Thanks you, dear Lucianne, for posting the notice of our dear one here this morning.
Ramona (the Pest)


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Reply 11 - Posted by: JAN, 3/30/2013 8:14:07 AM     (No. 9251001)

Defying all logic, honor,and decency.

For shame.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 3/30/2013 8:17:35 AM     (No. 9251012)

This killer should have been in front of a firing squad years ago. Trial? What for?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Coy860, 3/30/2013 8:20:51 AM     (No. 9251016)

This government is failing the People.
President Dereliction of Duty, and VP Abuse of Power are tearing our America apart.
The bonds of good laws are being ripped asunder by the Justice Department.
Small businesses are failing because of gov´t.
Men can´t find work to feed their families.
How much longer can we tolerate this total dysfunction called the Administration?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: udanja99, 3/30/2013 8:32:26 AM     (No. 9251044)

There are moments when I briefly think that I no longer want to live in this country. This is one of them.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: laotzu, 3/30/2013 8:48:37 AM     (No. 9251066)

We are at the dawn of the second Dark Ages, brought about by Orwellian Progressivism.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: uno, 3/30/2013 8:50:33 AM     (No. 9251068)

In every way, shape and form this administration fails to do the right thing. There is a reason for that. Its every action works to weaken this nation financially, militarily and spiritually in it relentless quest to "fundamentally transform" the United States into weak, malleable, divided nation of dumbed-down, unmotivated "victims" dependent upon the government while the robbing the productive half anyway they can. I´m getting a little astray of the subject, but rewarding true heros doing the right thing is certainly not on the Obamboozler´s agenda.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: LZK, 3/30/2013 9:03:41 AM     (No. 9251090)

I see a change in the way folks look at these rebuffs. Have you noticed that more and more Americans are saying -- "well that´s the goooooberment for ya"....

By pushing the political correct position -- the gooooberment elite in DC, NY and California are turning off the people.

WE the people are getting wise to their antics and WE´re dismissing their input into our lives.. WE are surviving the obama/abomination/administration by simply ignoring their rants, i.e. ranting rahm -- mayor of Chicago. He thinks he´s winning -- but more and more citizens are putting their houses up for sale and then it´s bye/bye....hello Texas or Florida....

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chicodon, 3/30/2013 9:04:24 AM     (No. 9251094)

More Muslim outreach.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Speedypetey, 3/30/2013 9:33:44 AM     (No. 9251141)

SNAFU! My father fought in the Pacific WWII. He said the politics of the military pushed them to the brink in the Solomon´s and the private sector enlistment died next to the career soldier but the private sector OCS saved their butts with organization skills and a limit on command structures. Today the difference is the non com´s like the JAG´s have swept the pension pushers´ General´s and Admirals aside.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: flhub, 3/30/2013 9:38:53 AM     (No. 9251149)

There are NO words to describe this !!
How DARE they!!!
Justice must be dealt in BOTH cases.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 3/30/2013 9:42:51 AM     (No. 9251153)

I´ll play the PC thing here.

Do what #6 EnsignO Toole says then as an added bonus give out the purple hearts to the soldiers and one to the terrorist Maj. Hasan...posthumorusly.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: RancherJack, 3/30/2013 9:47:54 AM     (No. 9251163)

Well.

This confirms my estimation of our modern military and it´s ethos.

They will come for us. They will fight us, the citizens. They will turn on us. They will find a ´reason´ to destroy us.

The unthinkable is now upon us ....

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Seething Citizen, 3/30/2013 10:24:28 AM     (No. 9251234)

I am a veteran, my father was a 100% disabled American veteran of WWII. And I think the world of our troops. However, why would any young person join today, under this rogue, anti-American regime? Everything is against the troops, insane rules of engagement, total devotion to PC, anti-Christian, but we must respect the koran. How many members of our Congress´ children are enlisted in our military?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: MDConservative, 3/30/2013 10:46:34 AM     (No. 9251265)

This is political boob bait introduced by Rep. John Carter, R.-Texas, who has Ft. Hood in his district. Try Hasan, execute the anticipated sentence publicly, and THEN, with all the evidence properly presented without a chance of appealing on the grounds of pre-judgement, introduce the bill to award the medal for which the victims do not currently qualify. Then we´ll see who in Congress (and whether the President) will agree that Hasan and "Islamo-fascism" are an enemy. Don´t bet on it. It´ll likely never come to the floor, certainly not on a roll call vote.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: god of irony, 3/30/2013 11:02:47 AM     (No. 9251286)

Let me tell you, the whole military awards thing is broke. Instead of honoring sacrifice, heroism and selfless service above and beyond. They are based on rank and political correctness. Officers who never took fire or left their compound are put in for bronze stars while privates that engage the enemy are lucky to an Achievement medal.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: toddh, 3/30/2013 11:30:04 AM     (No. 9251341)

Lawfare.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Franz, 3/30/2013 12:12:37 PM     (No. 9251411)

It is a wonder to me that with all the PC BS, that so many of our countrymen still serve in our military. It is most assuredly not how they are treated, but in spite of it.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 3/30/2013 1:10:32 PM     (No. 9251462)

What´s this? The terrorist Hasan is on trial?

SINCE WHEN?!?



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Reply 29 - Posted by: LanieLou, 3/30/2013 1:56:05 PM     (No. 9251503)

I guess the MSM will keep the truth buried... That Hasan is a friend of Obama´s... and served his medical transition team.

This is why the military could never take action against his radical acts.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Grambo, 3/30/2013 3:13:44 PM     (No. 9251581)

It´s so sad that so many fine troops, men and women, who offered to serve their country honorably, by stoke of chance found that their time of service happened to be under such a sordid Commander in Chief.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Words have Meaning, 3/30/2013 4:04:39 PM     (No. 9251609)

Let´s get on with this trial so we can get on with the execution of this murderous terrorist.

Thank God that this crime happened in Texas where the death penalty really means something.

PS. May God bless the survivors and the victims.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: pickle1, 3/30/2013 4:27:24 PM     (No. 9251633)

Aren´t they actually saying they, the Defense Department, are going to hurt the survivors; not the Hasan trial?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: mathman, 3/30/2013 5:26:16 PM     (No. 9251699)

Gag me with a spoon.
Hasan should have gone before a firing squad a year ago.
In fact, he should have been sectioned out of the Military years ago!

I guess we really don´t want to defend our country against Obama and his Muslims.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: lana720, 3/30/2013 5:32:04 PM     (No. 9251703)

Hassan´s trial should be held a Gitmo where he belongs. Give him the fairness he allowed those he ambushed, injured and killed.
I don´t really care if anyone thinks it is not fair; what he did wasn´t.
It was definitely not workplace violence, but terrorism - period!
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Andromeda, 3/30/2013 6:11:32 PM     (No. 9251739)

Let me figure the logic of this:
1.If we give Purple Hearts to wounded military, then we will admit that a terrorist attack is a terrorist attack.
2. If we admit it is a terrorist attack, then it will "prejudice" the case against the murdering terrorist who committed it.
3. Somehow this is a bad thing.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 3/30/2013 7:11:08 PM     (No. 9251788)

Justice delayed is justice denied.

There are 14 dead Americans (one victim was pregnant), and numerous wounded victims who deserve to see Hasan sentenced for his crimes.

I can only surmise that the long wait for his trial is deliberate on the part of our government.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: hamrman, 3/30/2013 9:03:09 PM     (No. 9251901)

PC bulloney...shameful, these Hero´s deserve to be honored as they were murdered by a terrorist in the war on terror!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: usmc2489, 3/30/2013 9:13:57 PM     (No. 9251914)

I wonder if Nidal dies, would our muslim in chief have the flag lowered to half-mast?

When the 22 Seals died in Afghanistan, the flag was NOT lowered to half-mast. 22 American heroes perished and the MIC did not honor them. Whitney Houstan, Druggie, got the flag lowered for her.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 3/30/2013 9:50:36 PM     (No. 9251936)

How many ways can this admin insult the America soldier ?

Had this not been a gun free zone, we wouldn´t we commenting.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 3/30/2013 10:44:24 PM     (No. 9251970)

Once upon a time...There was a place when an enemy combatant who wore the uniform of This country while preforming traitorous acts was summarily shot, for those same traitorous acts.

That was before this country elected a social- Communist as its pREZ.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: flatwater, 3/30/2013 11:21:53 PM     (No. 9251983)

Obama said he´d always side with the Muslims, and he has.

He´s siding with Muslim terrorists over American soldiers.

He´s siding against all fact and reason, and refusing to acknowledge that the Fort Hood shooting was a terrorist attack.

He´s impeding the prosecution of Nidal Hassan.

Barack Obama hates America every bit as much as he hates white people and Jews.

All hail our Hatemonger-in-Chief, Wise King Barky.

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Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

White babies just 15 months old show racial
bias when picking playmates, study found

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
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Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Why is US Senator Harry
Reid so concerned with
a local Nevada rancher?

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Fox News, by Wayne Allyn Root    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:37:12 PM     Post Reply
I live in Las Vegas. I live and breath Nevada politics. Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in the Nevada desert. And Senator Harry Reid’s fingerprints are all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege. This was a dispute between a Nevada ranching family with rights to the land in question for 140 years and the BLM (Bureayu of Land Management). The government claims they haven’t paid grazing fees for 20 years. The result was a government assault on the ranch- including snipers with assault rifles, SUV’s, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops. No

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:54:52 PM     Post Reply
Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/16/2014 10:32:12 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 10:08:10 PM     Post Reply
How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.

Rev. Al Sharpton’s Easter message:
Politically ‘crucified’ Obama has risen again

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Washington Times, by Jessica Chasmar    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 4/16/2014 3:42:51 PM     Post Reply
With Easter soon approaching, the Rev. Al Sharpton on Wednesday drew parallels between the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of President Obama’s political career. Joining the “Tom Joyner Morning Show,” Mr. Sharpton said that his message for this Easter is that “no matter what the world may do to you unfairly, no matter how you’re crucified — nailed to the cross at home, or in your personal relationships, or on the job — that you can rise if you don’t lose yourself during the hard times and the challenges.” The reverend went on to say that Christ endured so much humiliation and unearned suffering leading up to his death,


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