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Defense Department says giving
Purple Heart to Fort Hood
survivors would hurt Hasan trial

Fox News, by Pamela Browne, Catherine Herridge

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Posted By:JoniTx, 3/30/2013 3:20:19 AM

Legislation that would award the injured from the 2009 Fort Hood shooting the Purple Heart would adversely affect the trial of Maj. Nidal Hasan by labeling the attack terrorism, according to a Defense Department document obtained by Fox News. The document comes following calls from survivors and their families for the military honor, because they say Fort Hood was turned into a battlefield when Hasan opened fire during the November 2009 attack. Fox News is told that the DOD “position paper” is being circulated specifically in response to the proposed legislation. The document reads in part:

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: chumley, 3/30/2013 3:31:14 AM     (No. 9250855)

More PC stupidity from the military. Sadly, it is par for the course.
Think of the most bonehead idea you can possibly imagine, and some deskbound officer has already issued it as an order.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 3/30/2013 3:36:52 AM     (No. 9250856)

"Cynical travesty" is the perfect description for this act and any consequences. "Workplace violence" has nothing to do with terrorism, whereas a Muslim in a US Army uniform mowing down troops on a military base and yelling "God is Great!" is an unarguable act of terrorism.

If you need a memory refresher, there´s a good summary and analysis of the attack at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

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Reply 3 - Posted by: CzndCitzen, 3/30/2013 5:47:15 AM     (No. 9250884)

If it walks like a duck....

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Spidey, 3/30/2013 7:11:07 AM     (No. 9250916)

This situation was really the first tip off of how ant-American and anti-military Obama is. Him going to the Interior Dept´s of Indian affairs and giving a shout out to a big shot Indian before even mentioning this shooting showed how unserious he was about the deaths of American troops. Of course there were no calls for gun control after this.

As commander in chief,it´s Obama´s primary job to stand behind the troops but if you look at this and he VA backlog,they show how Obama totally lacks respect for the military. It makes me sick when he uses these people as photo op props.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Trigger2, 3/30/2013 7:32:37 AM     (No. 9250939)

Oh sure, the WH can´t go against a brother jihadist.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 3/30/2013 7:38:02 AM     (No. 9250949)

Why is he even being tried? He was caught in the act of killing our service men and women. He should have been taken to the nearest tree and hanged then and there, IMHO.
Do I care if Hasan receives a "fair trial"?

NO! Did he give the innocent people at Fort Hood a fair chance when he suddenly opened fire on them when they had no way to respond at that moment?

As I said, the nearest tree and a rope would have been justice.




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Reply 7 - Posted by: radvet1, 3/30/2013 7:38:19 AM     (No. 9250950)

This is a despicable delay of justice. Put this murderer on trial and execute him. Timothy was indicted 6 months after bombing and the trial began 2 yrs after. The citizens of this country should be outraged about this but the media is silent.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: radvet1, 3/30/2013 7:39:21 AM     (No. 9250952)

I meant Timothy McVeigh but I was so outraged, I forgot to type it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Pros7767, 3/30/2013 7:49:37 AM     (No. 9250960)

Foreign enemies are the least of our problems. We are being destroyed from within.

All while mooch and Jill make a big show of supporting military families. They´re just using them as props. Despicable!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ramona, 3/30/2013 8:03:44 AM     (No. 9250976)

Poster #4 says: "As commander in chief,it´s Obama´s primary job to stand behind the troops..." but I can think of others, more admirable, who would stand in front and lead them. This one grows more despicable each day, in every way.

Thanks you, dear Lucianne, for posting the notice of our dear one here this morning.
Ramona (the Pest)


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Reply 11 - Posted by: JAN, 3/30/2013 8:14:07 AM     (No. 9251001)

Defying all logic, honor,and decency.

For shame.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 3/30/2013 8:17:35 AM     (No. 9251012)

This killer should have been in front of a firing squad years ago. Trial? What for?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Coy860, 3/30/2013 8:20:51 AM     (No. 9251016)

This government is failing the People.
President Dereliction of Duty, and VP Abuse of Power are tearing our America apart.
The bonds of good laws are being ripped asunder by the Justice Department.
Small businesses are failing because of gov´t.
Men can´t find work to feed their families.
How much longer can we tolerate this total dysfunction called the Administration?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: udanja99, 3/30/2013 8:32:26 AM     (No. 9251044)

There are moments when I briefly think that I no longer want to live in this country. This is one of them.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: laotzu, 3/30/2013 8:48:37 AM     (No. 9251066)

We are at the dawn of the second Dark Ages, brought about by Orwellian Progressivism.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: uno, 3/30/2013 8:50:33 AM     (No. 9251068)

In every way, shape and form this administration fails to do the right thing. There is a reason for that. Its every action works to weaken this nation financially, militarily and spiritually in it relentless quest to "fundamentally transform" the United States into weak, malleable, divided nation of dumbed-down, unmotivated "victims" dependent upon the government while the robbing the productive half anyway they can. I´m getting a little astray of the subject, but rewarding true heros doing the right thing is certainly not on the Obamboozler´s agenda.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: LZK, 3/30/2013 9:03:41 AM     (No. 9251090)

I see a change in the way folks look at these rebuffs. Have you noticed that more and more Americans are saying -- "well that´s the goooooberment for ya"....

By pushing the political correct position -- the gooooberment elite in DC, NY and California are turning off the people.

WE the people are getting wise to their antics and WE´re dismissing their input into our lives.. WE are surviving the obama/abomination/administration by simply ignoring their rants, i.e. ranting rahm -- mayor of Chicago. He thinks he´s winning -- but more and more citizens are putting their houses up for sale and then it´s bye/bye....hello Texas or Florida....

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chicodon, 3/30/2013 9:04:24 AM     (No. 9251094)

More Muslim outreach.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Speedypetey, 3/30/2013 9:33:44 AM     (No. 9251141)

SNAFU! My father fought in the Pacific WWII. He said the politics of the military pushed them to the brink in the Solomon´s and the private sector enlistment died next to the career soldier but the private sector OCS saved their butts with organization skills and a limit on command structures. Today the difference is the non com´s like the JAG´s have swept the pension pushers´ General´s and Admirals aside.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: flhub, 3/30/2013 9:38:53 AM     (No. 9251149)

There are NO words to describe this !!
How DARE they!!!
Justice must be dealt in BOTH cases.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 3/30/2013 9:42:51 AM     (No. 9251153)

I´ll play the PC thing here.

Do what #6 EnsignO Toole says then as an added bonus give out the purple hearts to the soldiers and one to the terrorist Maj. Hasan...posthumorusly.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: RancherJack, 3/30/2013 9:47:54 AM     (No. 9251163)

Well.

This confirms my estimation of our modern military and it´s ethos.

They will come for us. They will fight us, the citizens. They will turn on us. They will find a ´reason´ to destroy us.

The unthinkable is now upon us ....

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Seething Citizen, 3/30/2013 10:24:28 AM     (No. 9251234)

I am a veteran, my father was a 100% disabled American veteran of WWII. And I think the world of our troops. However, why would any young person join today, under this rogue, anti-American regime? Everything is against the troops, insane rules of engagement, total devotion to PC, anti-Christian, but we must respect the koran. How many members of our Congress´ children are enlisted in our military?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: MDConservative, 3/30/2013 10:46:34 AM     (No. 9251265)

This is political boob bait introduced by Rep. John Carter, R.-Texas, who has Ft. Hood in his district. Try Hasan, execute the anticipated sentence publicly, and THEN, with all the evidence properly presented without a chance of appealing on the grounds of pre-judgement, introduce the bill to award the medal for which the victims do not currently qualify. Then we´ll see who in Congress (and whether the President) will agree that Hasan and "Islamo-fascism" are an enemy. Don´t bet on it. It´ll likely never come to the floor, certainly not on a roll call vote.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: god of irony, 3/30/2013 11:02:47 AM     (No. 9251286)

Let me tell you, the whole military awards thing is broke. Instead of honoring sacrifice, heroism and selfless service above and beyond. They are based on rank and political correctness. Officers who never took fire or left their compound are put in for bronze stars while privates that engage the enemy are lucky to an Achievement medal.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: toddh, 3/30/2013 11:30:04 AM     (No. 9251341)

Lawfare.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Franz, 3/30/2013 12:12:37 PM     (No. 9251411)

It is a wonder to me that with all the PC BS, that so many of our countrymen still serve in our military. It is most assuredly not how they are treated, but in spite of it.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 3/30/2013 1:10:32 PM     (No. 9251462)

What´s this? The terrorist Hasan is on trial?

SINCE WHEN?!?



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Reply 29 - Posted by: LanieLou, 3/30/2013 1:56:05 PM     (No. 9251503)

I guess the MSM will keep the truth buried... That Hasan is a friend of Obama´s... and served his medical transition team.

This is why the military could never take action against his radical acts.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Grambo, 3/30/2013 3:13:44 PM     (No. 9251581)

It´s so sad that so many fine troops, men and women, who offered to serve their country honorably, by stoke of chance found that their time of service happened to be under such a sordid Commander in Chief.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Words have Meaning, 3/30/2013 4:04:39 PM     (No. 9251609)

Let´s get on with this trial so we can get on with the execution of this murderous terrorist.

Thank God that this crime happened in Texas where the death penalty really means something.

PS. May God bless the survivors and the victims.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: pickle1, 3/30/2013 4:27:24 PM     (No. 9251633)

Aren´t they actually saying they, the Defense Department, are going to hurt the survivors; not the Hasan trial?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: mathman, 3/30/2013 5:26:16 PM     (No. 9251699)

Gag me with a spoon.
Hasan should have gone before a firing squad a year ago.
In fact, he should have been sectioned out of the Military years ago!

I guess we really don´t want to defend our country against Obama and his Muslims.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: lana720, 3/30/2013 5:32:04 PM     (No. 9251703)

Hassan´s trial should be held a Gitmo where he belongs. Give him the fairness he allowed those he ambushed, injured and killed.
I don´t really care if anyone thinks it is not fair; what he did wasn´t.
It was definitely not workplace violence, but terrorism - period!
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Andromeda, 3/30/2013 6:11:32 PM     (No. 9251739)

Let me figure the logic of this:
1.If we give Purple Hearts to wounded military, then we will admit that a terrorist attack is a terrorist attack.
2. If we admit it is a terrorist attack, then it will "prejudice" the case against the murdering terrorist who committed it.
3. Somehow this is a bad thing.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 3/30/2013 7:11:08 PM     (No. 9251788)

Justice delayed is justice denied.

There are 14 dead Americans (one victim was pregnant), and numerous wounded victims who deserve to see Hasan sentenced for his crimes.

I can only surmise that the long wait for his trial is deliberate on the part of our government.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: hamrman, 3/30/2013 9:03:09 PM     (No. 9251901)

PC bulloney...shameful, these Hero´s deserve to be honored as they were murdered by a terrorist in the war on terror!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: usmc2489, 3/30/2013 9:13:57 PM     (No. 9251914)

I wonder if Nidal dies, would our muslim in chief have the flag lowered to half-mast?

When the 22 Seals died in Afghanistan, the flag was NOT lowered to half-mast. 22 American heroes perished and the MIC did not honor them. Whitney Houstan, Druggie, got the flag lowered for her.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 3/30/2013 9:50:36 PM     (No. 9251936)

How many ways can this admin insult the America soldier ?

Had this not been a gun free zone, we wouldn´t we commenting.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 3/30/2013 10:44:24 PM     (No. 9251970)

Once upon a time...There was a place when an enemy combatant who wore the uniform of This country while preforming traitorous acts was summarily shot, for those same traitorous acts.

That was before this country elected a social- Communist as its pREZ.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: flatwater, 3/30/2013 11:21:53 PM     (No. 9251983)

Obama said he´d always side with the Muslims, and he has.

He´s siding with Muslim terrorists over American soldiers.

He´s siding against all fact and reason, and refusing to acknowledge that the Fort Hood shooting was a terrorist attack.

He´s impeding the prosecution of Nidal Hassan.

Barack Obama hates America every bit as much as he hates white people and Jews.

All hail our Hatemonger-in-Chief, Wise King Barky.

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Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already

Glen Campbell has been
moved into a facility

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People Magazine, by Gilliam Telling    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 4/17/2014 6:58:48 PM     Post Reply
Glen Campbell has been suffering from Alzheimer´s for over three years, but the Grammy-winning singer, 78, has recently moved into a facility, PEOPLE has confirmed. "He was moved to an Alzhemier´s facility last week," says a family friend. "I´m not sure what the permanent plan is for him yet. We´ll know more next week." The "Rhinestone Cowboy" crooner first opened up about having Alzheimer´s to PEOPLE in an exclusive 2011 interview. Campbell and his fourth wife, Kim Woolen, decided to go public with the news because Campbell hoped to embark on a final farewell live tour. The couple wanted his

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
We Should Like About Hillary Clinton

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PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:33:53 AM     Post Reply
The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

Those ‘rogue’ agents
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New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:37:07 AM     Post Reply
Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations


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