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Defense Department says giving
Purple Heart to Fort Hood
survivors would hurt Hasan trial

Fox News, by Pamela Browne, Catherine Herridge

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Posted By:JoniTx, 3/30/2013 3:20:19 AM

Legislation that would award the injured from the 2009 Fort Hood shooting the Purple Heart would adversely affect the trial of Maj. Nidal Hasan by labeling the attack terrorism, according to a Defense Department document obtained by Fox News. The document comes following calls from survivors and their families for the military honor, because they say Fort Hood was turned into a battlefield when Hasan opened fire during the November 2009 attack. Fox News is told that the DOD “position paper” is being circulated specifically in response to the proposed legislation. The document reads in part:

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: chumley, 3/30/2013 3:31:14 AM     (No. 9250855)

More PC stupidity from the military. Sadly, it is par for the course.
Think of the most bonehead idea you can possibly imagine, and some deskbound officer has already issued it as an order.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 3/30/2013 3:36:52 AM     (No. 9250856)

"Cynical travesty" is the perfect description for this act and any consequences. "Workplace violence" has nothing to do with terrorism, whereas a Muslim in a US Army uniform mowing down troops on a military base and yelling "God is Great!" is an unarguable act of terrorism.

If you need a memory refresher, there´s a good summary and analysis of the attack at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

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Reply 3 - Posted by: CzndCitzen, 3/30/2013 5:47:15 AM     (No. 9250884)

If it walks like a duck....

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Spidey, 3/30/2013 7:11:07 AM     (No. 9250916)

This situation was really the first tip off of how ant-American and anti-military Obama is. Him going to the Interior Dept´s of Indian affairs and giving a shout out to a big shot Indian before even mentioning this shooting showed how unserious he was about the deaths of American troops. Of course there were no calls for gun control after this.

As commander in chief,it´s Obama´s primary job to stand behind the troops but if you look at this and he VA backlog,they show how Obama totally lacks respect for the military. It makes me sick when he uses these people as photo op props.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Trigger2, 3/30/2013 7:32:37 AM     (No. 9250939)

Oh sure, the WH can´t go against a brother jihadist.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 3/30/2013 7:38:02 AM     (No. 9250949)

Why is he even being tried? He was caught in the act of killing our service men and women. He should have been taken to the nearest tree and hanged then and there, IMHO.
Do I care if Hasan receives a "fair trial"?

NO! Did he give the innocent people at Fort Hood a fair chance when he suddenly opened fire on them when they had no way to respond at that moment?

As I said, the nearest tree and a rope would have been justice.




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Reply 7 - Posted by: radvet1, 3/30/2013 7:38:19 AM     (No. 9250950)

This is a despicable delay of justice. Put this murderer on trial and execute him. Timothy was indicted 6 months after bombing and the trial began 2 yrs after. The citizens of this country should be outraged about this but the media is silent.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: radvet1, 3/30/2013 7:39:21 AM     (No. 9250952)

I meant Timothy McVeigh but I was so outraged, I forgot to type it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Pros7767, 3/30/2013 7:49:37 AM     (No. 9250960)

Foreign enemies are the least of our problems. We are being destroyed from within.

All while mooch and Jill make a big show of supporting military families. They´re just using them as props. Despicable!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ramona, 3/30/2013 8:03:44 AM     (No. 9250976)

Poster #4 says: "As commander in chief,it´s Obama´s primary job to stand behind the troops..." but I can think of others, more admirable, who would stand in front and lead them. This one grows more despicable each day, in every way.

Thanks you, dear Lucianne, for posting the notice of our dear one here this morning.
Ramona (the Pest)


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Reply 11 - Posted by: JAN, 3/30/2013 8:14:07 AM     (No. 9251001)

Defying all logic, honor,and decency.

For shame.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 3/30/2013 8:17:35 AM     (No. 9251012)

This killer should have been in front of a firing squad years ago. Trial? What for?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Coy860, 3/30/2013 8:20:51 AM     (No. 9251016)

This government is failing the People.
President Dereliction of Duty, and VP Abuse of Power are tearing our America apart.
The bonds of good laws are being ripped asunder by the Justice Department.
Small businesses are failing because of gov´t.
Men can´t find work to feed their families.
How much longer can we tolerate this total dysfunction called the Administration?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: udanja99, 3/30/2013 8:32:26 AM     (No. 9251044)

There are moments when I briefly think that I no longer want to live in this country. This is one of them.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: laotzu, 3/30/2013 8:48:37 AM     (No. 9251066)

We are at the dawn of the second Dark Ages, brought about by Orwellian Progressivism.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: uno, 3/30/2013 8:50:33 AM     (No. 9251068)

In every way, shape and form this administration fails to do the right thing. There is a reason for that. Its every action works to weaken this nation financially, militarily and spiritually in it relentless quest to "fundamentally transform" the United States into weak, malleable, divided nation of dumbed-down, unmotivated "victims" dependent upon the government while the robbing the productive half anyway they can. I´m getting a little astray of the subject, but rewarding true heros doing the right thing is certainly not on the Obamboozler´s agenda.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: LZK, 3/30/2013 9:03:41 AM     (No. 9251090)

I see a change in the way folks look at these rebuffs. Have you noticed that more and more Americans are saying -- "well that´s the goooooberment for ya"....

By pushing the political correct position -- the gooooberment elite in DC, NY and California are turning off the people.

WE the people are getting wise to their antics and WE´re dismissing their input into our lives.. WE are surviving the obama/abomination/administration by simply ignoring their rants, i.e. ranting rahm -- mayor of Chicago. He thinks he´s winning -- but more and more citizens are putting their houses up for sale and then it´s bye/bye....hello Texas or Florida....

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chicodon, 3/30/2013 9:04:24 AM     (No. 9251094)

More Muslim outreach.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Speedypetey, 3/30/2013 9:33:44 AM     (No. 9251141)

SNAFU! My father fought in the Pacific WWII. He said the politics of the military pushed them to the brink in the Solomon´s and the private sector enlistment died next to the career soldier but the private sector OCS saved their butts with organization skills and a limit on command structures. Today the difference is the non com´s like the JAG´s have swept the pension pushers´ General´s and Admirals aside.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: flhub, 3/30/2013 9:38:53 AM     (No. 9251149)

There are NO words to describe this !!
How DARE they!!!
Justice must be dealt in BOTH cases.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 3/30/2013 9:42:51 AM     (No. 9251153)

I´ll play the PC thing here.

Do what #6 EnsignO Toole says then as an added bonus give out the purple hearts to the soldiers and one to the terrorist Maj. Hasan...posthumorusly.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: RancherJack, 3/30/2013 9:47:54 AM     (No. 9251163)

Well.

This confirms my estimation of our modern military and it´s ethos.

They will come for us. They will fight us, the citizens. They will turn on us. They will find a ´reason´ to destroy us.

The unthinkable is now upon us ....

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Seething Citizen, 3/30/2013 10:24:28 AM     (No. 9251234)

I am a veteran, my father was a 100% disabled American veteran of WWII. And I think the world of our troops. However, why would any young person join today, under this rogue, anti-American regime? Everything is against the troops, insane rules of engagement, total devotion to PC, anti-Christian, but we must respect the koran. How many members of our Congress´ children are enlisted in our military?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: MDConservative, 3/30/2013 10:46:34 AM     (No. 9251265)

This is political boob bait introduced by Rep. John Carter, R.-Texas, who has Ft. Hood in his district. Try Hasan, execute the anticipated sentence publicly, and THEN, with all the evidence properly presented without a chance of appealing on the grounds of pre-judgement, introduce the bill to award the medal for which the victims do not currently qualify. Then we´ll see who in Congress (and whether the President) will agree that Hasan and "Islamo-fascism" are an enemy. Don´t bet on it. It´ll likely never come to the floor, certainly not on a roll call vote.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: god of irony, 3/30/2013 11:02:47 AM     (No. 9251286)

Let me tell you, the whole military awards thing is broke. Instead of honoring sacrifice, heroism and selfless service above and beyond. They are based on rank and political correctness. Officers who never took fire or left their compound are put in for bronze stars while privates that engage the enemy are lucky to an Achievement medal.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: toddh, 3/30/2013 11:30:04 AM     (No. 9251341)

Lawfare.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Franz, 3/30/2013 12:12:37 PM     (No. 9251411)

It is a wonder to me that with all the PC BS, that so many of our countrymen still serve in our military. It is most assuredly not how they are treated, but in spite of it.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 3/30/2013 1:10:32 PM     (No. 9251462)

What´s this? The terrorist Hasan is on trial?

SINCE WHEN?!?



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Reply 29 - Posted by: LanieLou, 3/30/2013 1:56:05 PM     (No. 9251503)

I guess the MSM will keep the truth buried... That Hasan is a friend of Obama´s... and served his medical transition team.

This is why the military could never take action against his radical acts.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Grambo, 3/30/2013 3:13:44 PM     (No. 9251581)

It´s so sad that so many fine troops, men and women, who offered to serve their country honorably, by stoke of chance found that their time of service happened to be under such a sordid Commander in Chief.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Words have Meaning, 3/30/2013 4:04:39 PM     (No. 9251609)

Let´s get on with this trial so we can get on with the execution of this murderous terrorist.

Thank God that this crime happened in Texas where the death penalty really means something.

PS. May God bless the survivors and the victims.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: pickle1, 3/30/2013 4:27:24 PM     (No. 9251633)

Aren´t they actually saying they, the Defense Department, are going to hurt the survivors; not the Hasan trial?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: mathman, 3/30/2013 5:26:16 PM     (No. 9251699)

Gag me with a spoon.
Hasan should have gone before a firing squad a year ago.
In fact, he should have been sectioned out of the Military years ago!

I guess we really don´t want to defend our country against Obama and his Muslims.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: lana720, 3/30/2013 5:32:04 PM     (No. 9251703)

Hassan´s trial should be held a Gitmo where he belongs. Give him the fairness he allowed those he ambushed, injured and killed.
I don´t really care if anyone thinks it is not fair; what he did wasn´t.
It was definitely not workplace violence, but terrorism - period!
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Andromeda, 3/30/2013 6:11:32 PM     (No. 9251739)

Let me figure the logic of this:
1.If we give Purple Hearts to wounded military, then we will admit that a terrorist attack is a terrorist attack.
2. If we admit it is a terrorist attack, then it will "prejudice" the case against the murdering terrorist who committed it.
3. Somehow this is a bad thing.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 3/30/2013 7:11:08 PM     (No. 9251788)

Justice delayed is justice denied.

There are 14 dead Americans (one victim was pregnant), and numerous wounded victims who deserve to see Hasan sentenced for his crimes.

I can only surmise that the long wait for his trial is deliberate on the part of our government.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: hamrman, 3/30/2013 9:03:09 PM     (No. 9251901)

PC bulloney...shameful, these Hero´s deserve to be honored as they were murdered by a terrorist in the war on terror!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: usmc2489, 3/30/2013 9:13:57 PM     (No. 9251914)

I wonder if Nidal dies, would our muslim in chief have the flag lowered to half-mast?

When the 22 Seals died in Afghanistan, the flag was NOT lowered to half-mast. 22 American heroes perished and the MIC did not honor them. Whitney Houstan, Druggie, got the flag lowered for her.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 3/30/2013 9:50:36 PM     (No. 9251936)

How many ways can this admin insult the America soldier ?

Had this not been a gun free zone, we wouldn´t we commenting.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 3/30/2013 10:44:24 PM     (No. 9251970)

Once upon a time...There was a place when an enemy combatant who wore the uniform of This country while preforming traitorous acts was summarily shot, for those same traitorous acts.

That was before this country elected a social- Communist as its pREZ.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: flatwater, 3/30/2013 11:21:53 PM     (No. 9251983)

Obama said he´d always side with the Muslims, and he has.

He´s siding with Muslim terrorists over American soldiers.

He´s siding against all fact and reason, and refusing to acknowledge that the Fort Hood shooting was a terrorist attack.

He´s impeding the prosecution of Nidal Hassan.

Barack Obama hates America every bit as much as he hates white people and Jews.

All hail our Hatemonger-in-Chief, Wise King Barky.

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In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Stop dressing so tacky for church
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CNN, by John Blake    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/20/2014 4:40:56 AM     Post Reply
If the Rev. John DeBonville could preach a sermon to lift the souls of churchgoers across America, his message would be simple: Stop dressing so tacky for church. DeBonville has heard about the “come as you are” approach to dressing down for Sunday service, but he says the Sabbath is getting too sloppy. When he scans the pews of churches, DeBonville sees rows of people dressed in their Sunday worst. They saunter into church in baggy shorts, flip-flop sandals, tennis shoes and grubby T-shirts. Some even slide into the pews carrying coffee in plastic foam containers as if they’re going to Starbucks. “It’s like

Clintons celebrate Chelsea’s
pregnancy announcement

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New York Post, by Stephanie Smith    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:32:52 AM     Post Reply
The Clintons had a busy night of celebrations after Chelsea announced she and husband Marc Mezvinsky are expecting a baby. Bill joined “House of Cards” star Kevin Spacey at the Revlon Rainforest Fund Benefit Concert at Carnegie Hall Thursday, joking of Spacey’s Machiavellian character, “When I was president people accused me of murder all the time, made a show of investigating. Spacey’s president for 15 minutes and he gets away with murder.” Spacey, who sang during the event with Sting, Stephen Stills and James Taylor, also showed off his Johnny Carson impression, taking a swipe at the coverage of Flight

The Growing Financial Disaster of Obamacare
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Power Line, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/19/2014 5:55:20 PM     Post Reply
President Obama asserts that 8 million people have signed up for Obamacare, as though that were something to be proud of. In fact, Obamacare has always been a fiasco from a fiscal perspective–a black hole of subsidies and expanded Medicaid, with largely fictitious mechanisms in place to pay for it. As the number of subsidized participants grows, the disaster gets worse. Charles Blahous explains: Our national discussion…is missing the truly significant story here; what is unfolding before our eyes is a colossal fiscal disaster, poised to haunt legislators and taxpayers for decades to come. It is quite possible that the ACA is

Gospel story of Jesus’ resurrection a
source of deep rifts in Christian religion

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Washington Post, by Kimberley Winston    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/19/2014 10:46:11 PM     Post Reply
“On the third day, he rose again.” That line, from the Nicene Creed, is a foundational statement of Christian belief. It declares that three days after Jesus died on the cross, he was resurrected, a glimmer of the eternal life promised to believers. It’s the heart of the Easter story in seven little words. But how that statement is interpreted is the source of some of the deepest rifts in Christianity — and a stumbling block for some Christians, and more than a few skeptics. Did Jesus literally come back from the dead in a bodily resurrection, as many traditionalist


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