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Now they tell us: Obamacare
debut will be ´messy´

Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard

Original Article

Posted By:KarenJ1, 3/18/2013 8:02:26 PM

As the debut of Obamacare nears in less than 10 months, officials responsible for implementing the complicated law are starting to warn that it will be a mess. "We know it´s going to be messy," said Jeffrey Crowley, a former top Obama aide on the team that spearheaded development of the Affordable Care Act. "There are going to be things that come up that are unanticipated," he added. Discussing Obamacare Monday at a Center for American Progress seminar on the law´s impact on HIV/AIDS and the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community, the president´s former director

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And that would be a gross understatement. This is going to cause chaos like we have never seen before in this country. It´s just what 0bama wants.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Coy860, 3/18/2013 8:06:22 PM     (No. 9231848)

The exchanges are supposed to be in place by October, with "navigators" to tell us all where to go.
I´d like to tell John Roberts where to go. s/


Reply 2 - Posted by: snapper451, 3/18/2013 8:07:12 PM     (No. 9231849)

Here´s a creative thought - why not scrap the whole thing, revive the economy by doing so, and put us on the path to recovery.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: jalo1951, 3/18/2013 8:08:47 PM     (No. 9231851)

How can this be? We were told it would be sunshine, lollipops and roses. "Free" care, keep your plan if you like, love your doctor - no problem, lower premiums, and on and on. We are in for the shock of our lives. For the idiots who voted for this joker I don´t care what happens to them but I didn´t and I will be pulled down with them. For God´s sake what were these idiots thinking?


Reply 4 - Posted by: LudicrousSextus, 3/18/2013 8:12:25 PM     (No. 9231856)

And again - at no time before, during or after this fiasco was passed - did it have the support of a *majority* of Americans.

Remember that ´representative government´ fairy tale they told you in civics class?

Welcome to Nancy Pelosi´s ´we didn´t read what was in it before we passed it´ hell...

It´ll be a tough call figuring whether Nancy or Dante runs that dreaded 10th Circle - which we now know will be the hell of government healthcare via malfeasance...


Reply 5 - Posted by: MMC, 3/18/2013 8:20:54 PM     (No. 9231867)

When the liv have to wait 8 hours in the er to be seen... They may get ugly!
Or the AIDS activist is denied medicine or has to fight every month to get monthly pills....

Or the peds cancer patient denied chemo

Or the grand parent offered a pill to end suffering...

I am fearful the chaos and bullets purchased for the feds will overlap at healthcare fight.


Reply 6 - Posted by: The Advocate, 3/18/2013 8:22:09 PM     (No. 9231870)

Obamatax should apply to Congress.
If not, it should be appealed in its entireity - their choice.
Which will it be?


Reply 7 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 3/18/2013 8:26:41 PM     (No. 9231881)

No American citizen should buckle under to to the Zeorbama/John Roberts gestapo and purchase Zerocare. The poor, of course, won´t. They will get it paid for by OPM, stolen from you by, you guessed it, John Roberts. What we need is a double impeachment, prosecution, and jail time for those two.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: strike3, 3/18/2013 8:29:24 PM     (No. 9231888)

It´s unconstitutional so there´s nothing we have to do but sit back and watch the fireworks. It will also end the vacation schedule of the "first" family. They will be afraid to leave the White House.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Johnny Angle, 3/18/2013 9:11:09 PM     (No. 9231980)

Like people dying messy?


Reply 10 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 3/18/2013 9:17:30 PM     (No. 9231987)

So, basically, we have to live with it to find out how it owrks if it works at all? In otherwords, it´s as if they built a huge airliner, straight off the drawing board and for it´s first flight ever, they want all the passengers on board that it is designed to carry- if it flies, great. If not, oh, well.


Reply 11 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 3/18/2013 9:21:45 PM     (No. 9231994)

How many people are going to have to die so these demonic democrats can have their beloved power? This will be ugly, and I fear for my family.

The only bright side is the 2014 elections might be in time to reverse some or most of this should the LoFoVos grow a brain cell between now and then.


Reply 12 - Posted by: nonsense, 3/18/2013 9:27:13 PM     (No. 9232004)

A meeting at the Soros funded, communist inspired Center for American Progress. Ptooey.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: MDConservative, 3/18/2013 10:11:35 PM     (No. 9232076)

Let´s go back to March 29, 1984, and Gov. Dick Lamm (D-Colo): "You´ve got a duty to die and get out of the way. Let the other society, our kids, build a reasonable life."

Soc Sec going broke.

Medicare going broke.

Pension finds going broke.

Longevity on the rise.

Now do you get it?


Reply 14 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 3/18/2013 10:18:33 PM     (No. 9232083)

Glad they are so concerned about immigrants and the GLBT whatever community.

This is an atrocity. It´s not only Zippy but our elected officials that need to man up. How is this monster even affordable while we have to cancel tours of the wh ?


Reply 15 - Posted by: STLstudent, 3/18/2013 10:41:12 PM     (No. 9232112)

Hell is coming.


Reply 16 - Posted by: reddfroge, 3/18/2013 10:43:14 PM     (No. 9232117)

the purpose of Obamacare is to eliminate at least 70 million ´non productive´ people...I am one of those people and I see what is coming.


Reply 17 - Posted by: judy, 3/19/2013 6:41:38 AM     (No. 9232388)

That´s because they didn´t read it before they passed it & they have no idea how to implement the thing.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: kenecarroll, 3/19/2013 7:29:39 AM     (No. 9232447)

#15...Hell isn´t coming... it´s already here. It has been for just over 4 years. Welcome to the Kenyans nightmare!


Reply 19 - Posted by: squid, 3/19/2013 7:45:34 AM     (No. 9232476)

I still believe that the best way to destroy Obamacare is to eliminate all special medical programs given to our elected officials and FORCE them to live with the same medical program that they have forced on us.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Grambo, 3/19/2013 7:46:54 AM     (No. 9232481)

Over the next ten months the funding mechanism for America´s health care system will dissolve into chaos. Hospitals clinics and medical groups will fall into insolvency, default and foreclosure. And Obama will gloat.


Reply 21 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 3/19/2013 7:55:55 AM     (No. 9232495)

It´s going to be fun watching them trying to pick up this t*rd by the clean end


Reply 22 - Posted by: uno, 3/19/2013 8:07:35 AM     (No. 9232512)

Anything to weaken America is his de-facto mission statement, and if this is carried thru to completion this country will be in ruins. We can already see the fractures in the system occurring.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: MattMusson, 3/19/2013 8:23:36 AM     (No. 9232533)

The plan always was to Crash the System - so they could nationalize Healthcare.


Reply 24 - Posted by: stryker714, 3/19/2013 8:44:40 AM     (No. 9232585)

The fact Obama had his college records sealed is quite revealing and why this sick socialist healthcare experiment will be reflective of bamster´s collegiate performance in a very geniune way. It is a dog, produced by a dog. It is going to be a complete disaster. Stories of people not getting treatment and dying will abound. Even after the system collapses in a shambles, the proponents will still trumpet on that it´s a good thing and just needs tweaking, much like Rahm Emanuel says gun control would work in Chicago if they just had "better gun control".

One has to wonder if the DC commies are laughing their collective donkeys off behind the scenes at the magnitude of the ACA as hospital administrators wrestle to grasp the complexities inherent in such a large document.


Reply 25 - Posted by: Speedypetey, 3/19/2013 8:57:38 AM     (No. 9232621)

What large group of idiots would not think that 2,700+ pages of legislation that the Californians and New Yorker legislators were too damn lazy to read would not add up to 14,000 and increasing regulations on patients, providers and suppliers. Our health insurance provider said they are sorry but we as a small company can expect 1/3 of our pay to eventually go to support the new government employees tossed on top of the health care which is already administratively top heavy. And the poor or entitled will still get free services, just more ticks of society sapping us.


Reply 26 - Posted by: geoguy, 3/19/2013 9:09:23 AM     (No. 9232645)

IMO there will be thousands that will die because of the chaos created as this POS legislation is enacted. I pray it isn´t me or a friend or family.

They want the senior citizens to die. We typically vote conservative, we are a net financial drain, many have retirement accounts they can immediately steal 55% via death tax. Why would they want us to live?


Reply 27 - Posted by: pineledger, 3/19/2013 9:12:46 AM     (No. 9232652)

24, the press wouldn´t vet him. And look what we´ve got.


Reply 28 - Posted by: RedWhiteBlue, 3/19/2013 9:16:32 AM     (No. 9232661)

Remember this from Valerie Jarrett?
“After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay."


They meant it!


Reply 29 - Posted by: RancherJack, 3/19/2013 10:14:01 AM     (No. 9232767)

Republicans control the House

The House controls purse strings

The answer is obvious ... and this is why I hate the Republican Party


Reply 30 - Posted by: chicodon, 3/19/2013 11:12:20 AM     (No. 9232932)

FTA
"the law´s impact on HIV/AIDS and the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community"
How far we have fallen.


Reply 31 - Posted by: M2, 3/19/2013 11:19:50 AM     (No. 9232953)

#28, that quote deserves widespread attention right now. She is serious because her comments come right from her protege`s, POTUS and wife.

They are dead serious. This is their payback and there will be hell to pay. Already, private-practice physicians are being swallowed up by huge hospitals. Neighborhoods have lost their special-relationship doctors.

And I also think #16 reminds us of Obama´s comment a while back, "Maybe [your elderly mother] should take the pain pill rather than have the [life-saving] surgery." Remember that?

At every step of the way, Obama & Co. have telegraphed their intentions:

1. Nationalized health care.
2. Redistribution of wealth.
3. I´ll go it alone if Congress won´t act.
4. No DOJ prosecution of black-against-white crime.
5. A civilian police force with the power of the military.
6. Gun confiscation.
7. Destruction of coal plants.
8. Total disregard for the desires of the majority of the American people.
9. "My Muslim faith" faux pas.
10. Making Christians pay for that which goes against their faith.
11. Tax increases without spending cuts.
12. "Punish your enemies and reward your friends."
13. "You didn´t build that."

There´s my baker´s dozen where Americans were not paying enough attention to get something done about the Marxist agenda.

Then, there was Maxine Waters´ slip of the tongue a while back where she said, "If you do it that way, you can´t control the people", whereupon she backtracked immediately realizing that "control the people" slipped out.

This is ALL about them controlling us.

I want to secede and I´m dead serious.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Butch59, 3/19/2013 12:24:06 PM     (No. 9233106)

It just so happens that I am a retired, former federal employee. NO, I didn´t sit a desk all day and shuffle paper areound. I was an electronic tech. that repaired and calibrated very expensive and elaborate test quipment that the AF used to maintain its fleet of aircraft. And I taught young airmen how to do the same.

As a retiree, I am still covered by the FEHBP. My medical insurance is one of the plans that is offered to us. And beginning the first of this year, my premiums were increased by 20% in order to comply with Obomacare.

Another thought. If and when Obozo suceeds in destroying our healthcare system and implements government system, just where are THEY going to get doctors and hospitals to supply healthcare? Just look around. We already have a shortage of doctors and many more are going to retire when obomacare become fully implemeted. Same thing with hospitals. If they can´t turn a profit, they will shut down. It´s going to happen. And I don´t think that these people have the common sense to see it comming.


Reply 33 - Posted by: Daisymae, 3/19/2013 1:06:01 PM     (No. 9233232)

I am not buying it. The government can send me to prison, at my age three hots and a cot doesn´t sound like a bad deal. Can I still get my SS check in prison? What about food stamps????


Reply 34 - Posted by: wtm, 3/19/2013 1:58:37 PM     (No. 9233325)

#11, that is why they want amnesty for all the illegals by 2014. They know that the longer things go on, the less likely the LoFo´s are likely to go with the Dems.

So bring in 9 million or more illegals, and let them vote Dem for 2014 !!!!

Once the Dems have the House and Senate again, the country will be theirs !!!!


Reply 35 - Posted by: Penney, 3/19/2013 2:15:06 PM     (No. 9233362)

Who knows more about the current state of healthcare in the USA than Dr. Ben Carson? Whohas more experienceboth in medical treatment, management and paying fo everthing than Dr. Ben Casey? Dr. Casey is retiring in a few months and who better can help America the Beautiful out of its current statist dem pols´ 0bamacare entangling swamp?!!!


Reply 36 - Posted by: maryc, 3/19/2013 2:41:59 PM     (No. 9233403)

The only way to destroy America is from within. obami´s plan all along has been to do just that. In ww2 they took ´care´ of all of the mentally challenged, old and ´unhealthy´ people to start with.


Reply 37 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 3/19/2013 5:33:40 PM     (No. 9233699)

#32, the doctors are already retiring. We have had letters from a few of our doctors recently stating that they are retiring, and their practice has been sold.

The new practice is invariably a large group, with many nurse practitioners offering the care we used to get from our doctors.


Reply 38 - Posted by: Coy860, 3/19/2013 5:49:23 PM     (No. 9233710)

Obama´s "personal physician" has got to go.
We cannot allow a 2 tiered system, it is unconstitutional. Then Congress MUST be forced into the same system they foisted on us. Anything less should call for a rebellion.


Reply 39 - Posted by: snakeoil, 3/19/2013 10:26:13 PM     (No. 9234037)

It will solve some of our problems such as immigration. People will be going to Cuba to get better medical care. There is nothing I hate more than standing in lines. Now thanks to libs every time you see a line you will just get in it because there will something at the end that you need.



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No one is more preoccupied these days with Hillary Clinton´s 2016 plans than the Beltway political class—not even the former presidential candidate herself. To hear some tell it, her decision will be dispositive for all other Democrats thinking of entering the race. And pundits and reporters aren´t the only ones positing the "The Hillary Factor": No less than the House Democratic whip, Steny Hoyer, told BuzzFeed, “I don´t know that anybody would run against Hillary…. If she runs, she clears the field.” It´s an understandable conclusion, given Clinton´s stature in the Democratic Party and her 70 percent

Obama critic apologizes for
his ´poorly chosen words´
on gay marriage

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The Hill [Washington DC], by Alexandra Jaffe    Original Article
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Neurosurgeon Ben Carson, considered by some to be a potential Republican contender for president, apologized to Johns Hopkins University for the "poorly chosen words" he used in expressing his opposition to gay marriage last month.“I am sorry for any embarrassment this has caused,” Carson said in the letter, reported in New York Magazine.(Snip) "Although I do believe marriage is between a man and a woman, there are much less offensive ways to make that point. I hope all will look at a lifetime of service over some poorly chosen words.” Carson will remain as commencement speaker at Johns Hopkins,

The Secrets of Princeton
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New York Times, by Ross Douthat    Original Article
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Susan Patton, the Princeton alumna who became famous for her letter urging Ivy League women to use their college years to find a mate, has been denounced as a traitor to feminism, to coeducation, to the university ideal. But really she’s something much more interesting: a traitor to her class. Her betrayal consists of being gauche enough to acknowledge publicly a truth that everyone who’s come up through Ivy League culture knows intuitively —

Beyonce, Jay-Z celebrate 5th
anniversary in Havana, Cuba

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Los Angeles Times, by Nardine Saad    Original Article
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Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for


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