On Friday’s night broadcast of his radio show, Mark Levin speculated that the federal government is stockpiling ammunition to ensure the rule of law in the event of a total societal and economic collapse. On Feb. 8, Investor’s Business Daily editorial writer Andrew Malcolm penned a piece about the Department of Homeland Security amassing what he called “sufficient firepower to shoot every American about five times –including illegal immigrants,” or more than 1.6 billion bullets. “I’m going to tell you what I think is going on,” Levin said. “I don’t think insurrection. Law enforcement and national security agencies
Comments: Is Mark Levin dabbling in coo-coo land, or are we on the verge of something serious?
Only reason I say maybe is because he supposedly worked in a cabinet department, albeit back in the 1980s.
According to the comments following the article, Mark Levin is not the only person that believes this. I believe Hussein is doing his utmost to foment a revolution. His only goal in life is to be a communist/muslim dictator of the US.
Levin does more than dabble in coo-coo land. I heard a nasty rumor his ratings have been in the tank since the election. Looks like he´s making a run at Alex Jones´ listeners. Careful, Mark, Teh Black Helicopters are real, man.
Keep in mind that Homeland Security, NOAA, EPA, IRS, Dept of Education and others are purchasing hollow point bullets. Not regular bullets for target practicing but bullets to stop a person on just one shot. Most of these Government agencies are only to operate in the US. So if they can only operate here and they have, one shot, one kill bullets, why do they have them. There´s a great article on survivalbasictraining.com that answers the ´why´.
Why would the Social Security dept. need hollow point rounds? Levin makes good points. We all saw how the passengers on the Carnival ship acted when food became scarce. Now, picture your town, your city..unions all on strike, no food being delivered, or perhaps the grids being disabled..or a dirty bomb in NYC. I know damn well the first thing they will do will be to seal the bridges and tunnels. HOW will the people act in 5 days when they can´t get out?
Another thought...the gov´t has always been a good place to buy up "surplus" ammo. Maybe they´re going to do some trading. Especially for branches that run out of budget monies, they unload some of their "extra" ammo. Just athought.
I see lots of disparaging remarks about the point being made by Levin, but in none of those criticisms are there any explanations as to WHY the government is doing what they´re doing.
It was nearly a year ago (9 months?) that we´d read that the federal government was buying up millions and millions of rounds of ammunition. At that time, it was the same: hollow points. Not the cheaper, ´hardball´ stuff, but hollow points.
Numerous Ldotters indicated that caution was due. They were roundly and openly jeered right here on L.com. And now, here we are again, some 9 months later, and again, the government is placing orders for millions and millions of rounds of ammunition. And again, there are some Ldotters who express a wary and cautionary eye towards the government. And again, there are Ldotters who openly jeer those that have these views.
And yet, still no explanation as to why. Why so much ammunition? Why hollow points? Why can´t the average consumers to to any of their usual retail store outlets and find any ammunition? Failing that, why are the usual online suppliers completely sold out - at ANY cost? Why? And not only "why?" but WHEN was the last time this was the case? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? There is a reason for everything.
I think Obama has a flood of executive orders coming down the pike and he´s not taking any chances on the possible reactions.These loons have a plan to write a new constitution.A new bill of rights.A guarantee to a house,healthcare living wage and any other goody you can think of. How they plan to pay for such idiocy is beyond me. It´s also beyond me that other countries would sit by if Obama declared a civil war on his own people.
If this is a muslim takeover,it wouldn´t surprise me. Just look at how Obama is setting Israel up for the kill.
I´m also concerned about this cyber security bill.What if Obama declared a national security threat and shut all the banks down.
Some of you seem to have forgotten that Obama said, "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
What does that sound like to you? And yes, I know ´FactCheck.org´ claims he was talking about just expanding the Peace Corps or some such rubbish but... I...don´t...think....so.
More like "I´m stirring up stuff, it´s what I do. It makes me feel so smart".
Talk radio numbers are down across the board since the "election", I´d bet they´re down on conservative web sites, too. Watch the gloating, Your Highness, when the two party system is killed, you´ll be eating each other. Oh yes, you will.
As for the ammo, if a gazillion hollow points are prohibited for the military, how about that domestic security force? I wouldn´t count on our military drawing down on American citizens, the new guys will in a heartbeat.
I´m not the conspiracy theory type but I think everyone should be on alert. If you have studied any history you should know that advanced civilizations eventually collapse, and the end is not pretty. In the past 100 years so-called ´progressive´ Europe has descended into two savage wars, the last of which wiped out nearly 50 million people. Enjoy the lifestyle that you currently have, but just be aware that it could disappear rather quickly - at gunpoint.
Sometimes the ´nuts´ are correct. History is replete with examples. Perot on the ´giant sucking sound´, Ron Paul on the Federal Reserve, even John the Baptist on repentance. Is Levin a ´nut´? Who cares? Ask the proper question: is Levin correct?
Where is the gooberment storing the ammo? Perhaps another John Brown will appear and take it upon himself to take and distribute the bullets and weapons to the people. It wouldn´t be the first time the people have defied the oppresso...oops! Government. A 1 million strong armed private army be no match for 50 million armed citizens. I don´t think our military would side with this administration in such a scenario.
Don´t buy it - America still has stability due to the middle class - having said that - middle class is being slowly cooked with taxes like a frog in a pot... Nothing crazy will happen short-term... IMHO
I´ve been told, as of last Thursday evening, the ammunition is being melted down.
The reason is to keep it from getting into American gun owner´s hands. It´s not sitting in a warehouse somewhere waiting to be used against us. It´s being melted down. They don´t need it in order to control us. They´ll use other measures for that.
But they have to make sure we can´t get it. That means it has to be destroyed.
OMG sheep, sloths, lazy. hypnotized. I have never read so many capitulating posts on Luci in my life! WAKE UP! WAKE UP! HELLO ANYBODY HOME? US gov buying and melting ammo? Ha right. Yeah bash Mark, bash Alex. Mainstream media moderate believable.... Fringe media conspiracy. What exactly do you people spend your time doing? The NWO is winning, your are asleep.
I don´t understand why the government doesn´t have to account for what they are doing with this ammo, or what it is planned to do with this ammo. It´s our money. I think to say its for training is an explanation that requires documentation and real faces attached to the documents.
Above someone noted that if Stinky the Gunrunner runs guns, he also runs ammo. Probably a good deal of this is going to the Middle East and especially to Syria.
It sounds to me as if ALIbama is preparing to arm his civilian national security force. If my memory is not completely gone I remember that the Germans called them the gestapo.
All of this will be in place when he riles up we Americans and they take to the streets. When this happens he will declare Martial Law (as predicted by a lot of us on these pages) and it will be a total take over by this evil man.
There is no other plausible reason for homeland security to be purchasing all of the weapons and ammunition. It is time for someone to bring this to the congress and demand that an explanation be given.
Sorry, Mark, I disagree. Obama knows he cannot outlaw guns or pass huge taxes on ammo. But he can create an artificial shortage by massive government purchases (After all, there is no budget on expenditures to worry about), thereby driving up prices.
This is the sneaky, socialist way towards gun control.
I think that some L-dotters may think this is tin foil hat time, but most of the negative comments are from the Trolls who lurk around Lucianne now more than ever. They pile on certain articles, and try to sound reasonable, although it usually comes out sounding garbled due to their Lefty illogical thinking.
Mr. o. has been working toward complete economic collapse since day 1 under the command of George Soros. That´s why the W.H. has a new Bunker, they fortified the vp house, and now they are working on a 2nd Oval Office with a secret entrance and exit.
The Left has always pushed for total control of citizens and population reduction. This is a two-fer for them.
Time to inject a little history. In Vietnam, the ammo to kill ratio was somewhere around 50,000 rounds per kill (or 30,000 rounds, if you take another guess). Given that level of suppression fire, 1.6 billion rounds would equal 32,000 kills.
That would not even wipe out Galveston (47,700 population).
Levin has not talked about this until the past few days; the information has been out there.
It would be useful -- and instructive -- to know how much ammunition the Federal Government has purchased over a period of time (more than the last four years) in order to determine whether these recent transactions are over the top or normal. Is the Federal Government preparing for civil unrest, or is it controlling the supply? If this Administration is purchasing a much larger supply than in the past, I would wager that they are anticipating and/or preparing for civil unrest on a large scale (based on many factors), AND they are also controlling the supply.
Hey folks - you been to your local gun store to buy ammo lately? They are out. Out of 9mm, now out of 22. Just bought a squirrel rifle and it included 1 box of 22 long shells. You cannot buy ammunition for your guns currently.
Levin is citing an Investors Business Daily article, so I don´t think he´s "off". I wonder if those criticizing him actually listened to the audio link in the article.
“I’m going to tell you what I think is going on. I don’t think domestic insurrection. Law enforcement and national security agencies, they play out multiple scenarios. … I’ll tell you what I think they’re simulating: the collapse of our financial system, the collapse of our society and the potential for widespread violence, looting, killing in the streets, because that’s what happens when an economy collapses.
“I suspect that just in case our fiscal situation, our monetary situation, collapses, and following it the civil society collapses, that is the rule of law, they want to be prepared,” Levin said. “I know why the government’s arming up: It’s not because there’s going to be an insurrection; it’s because our society is unraveling.”
# 15 had the quote, go back and read it. Millions of rounds of hollow point? Just last week I read that Homeland Security was buying thousands of fully automatic "assault rifles." Even if those guns and ammo are for "training purposes" what are they training for? All the alphabet agencies (IRS, HS, Agriculture, ATF, DEA, etc.) are building their own private little armies.
I thought the Posse Comitatas law was to protect us from our own army. It sure looks to me like the Obamites are up to something involving automatic weapons and lethal ammunition.
The DHS is in the process of forming it´s own paramilitary force. They have assault weapons on order, lots of ammo and will have no problem recruiting minimum wage losers willing to shoot fellow Americans. Just take a look at what they got standing around in the TSA. They quit looking at Muslims long ago. Now they are eyeballing you and me. It won´t be U.S. soldiers or Marines suppressing the people.
Levin is a brilliant man and not "coo-coo" by any means. Did you know that the government ran a practice scenario as if the Tea Party took over a city taking into account that the police and sheriffs would be sympathetic to the TP´s cause? They worked out the whole game plan to ensure they were able to stop the insurgence and bring "order" back to the city. Why would they do such a study if they weren´t planning on taking more of our freedoms? And again, what is up with all those "FEMA" compounds that are guarded to keep people in? Add this to the "peacetime" martial law orders, the ammo, the drones, the attempts to crack down more on guns and invalidate the 2nd amendment, the 500 vans Obama bought that can see and hear into people´s homes, the laws allowing cops to bug and GPS your car w/out consent or knowlege, black boxes for cars, etc... Is it really so farfetched? Not to mention what the leftists have been doing for almost 50 years...taking over schools, media, Hollywood, institutions, etc.
. . . I know why the government is arming up. It’s not because there’s going to be an insurrection. It’s because our society is unraveling.”
Mark, will you consider connecting a missing dot or two:
It is Obama and his puppeteers WHO have been unraveling our society. It is they who have been purposefully destructing our economy.
Obama and his puppeteers have been systematically devitalizing our military. By tilting the rules of engagement to favor his radical Muslim brethren, by lying in bed with Morsi while striving against Netanyahu, by reducing our arms, by depleting our nuclear strength, the putative Commander-in-Chief has rendered us virtually DEFENSELESS against attack on our soil, against attack on Libyan soil . . .
By pitting black against white, left against right, atheist against Christian, lasciviousness against morality . . . American against American . . . Obama has been knowingly and maliciously inciting civil war.
Now, Mark Levin, please think about these two dots:
What do you get when you connect Obama’s DRONES killing American citizens on American soil to the regime’s billions of rounds of hollow point ammo?
As long as we´re injecting a little history, #40, we should keep in mind that a major use of ammunition in Viet Nam was ´recon by fire´. We used to fire full-auto indiscriminately at places where the VC or NVA might be hiding. We´d fire into tree lines or any such places an enemy might be trying to hide.
So don´t confuse the ratio of total number of rounds used to make a kill. Once we had located the enemy, it took far fewer rounds to put them down.
It seems much less likely that any sort of pistol ammunition would or could be used for the same purpose.
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