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Why is the Department of
Homeland Security buying
so many bullets?

Associated Press, by Staff

Original Article

Posted By:KarenJ1, 2/15/2013 10:50:52 AM

Online rumors about a big government munitions purchase are true, sort of. The Homeland Security Department wants to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years. It says it needs them -- roughly the equivalent of five bullets for every person in the United States -- for law enforcement agents in training and on duty. Published federal notices about the ammo buy have agitated conspiracy theorists since the fall. That´s when conservative radio host Alex Jones spoke of an "arms race against the American people" and said the

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And I believe everything I´m told by AP and the morons in the DHS. s/o Would they really tell you the truth?? I trust absolutely nothing coming from this terrifying regime.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: calicojack, 2/15/2013 10:53:30 AM     (No. 9177990)

Nothing to see here. Move along.


Reply 2 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 2/15/2013 10:56:01 AM     (No. 9177996)

The problem is not so much that a bunch of incompetent federal officers have lots of ammo, but that there is NO ammo available for private citizens. Libs have been saying for a very long time (at least since Daniel Patrick Moynihan) that, even if they can´t do anything about guns, they can work to limit access to ammunition. It looks as though they´ve finally figured a way to do that.


   

 

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Reply 3 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds, 2/15/2013 10:57:46 AM     (No. 9178004)

And the ironic part is that the middle class funded the entire operation...


Reply 4 - Posted by: Alpha91c, 2/15/2013 10:58:16 AM     (No. 9178006)

I have little reason to believe much of anything that Homeland Security has to say. Would they attempt to deceive? No more than would our Dear Leader.


Reply 5 - Posted by: RightShoe, 2/15/2013 11:11:48 AM     (No. 9178033)

Nixon had only one Kent State.

Clinton brought in much bigger artillery when he went to Waco. And he used it too!

Enter Janet Napolitano.


Reply 6 - Posted by: minuteman, 2/15/2013 11:13:51 AM     (No. 9178037)

So, even assuming that "the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year" as stated, they are buying enough ammo for 107 years of training.


Reply 7 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 2/15/2013 11:16:32 AM     (No. 9178043)

I´m curious where Chicago gang members get their ammunition.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: MindMadeUp, 2/15/2013 11:19:28 AM     (No. 9178048)

I´ll bet the ones who sold them the ammo were big Dem contributors. This may be a way to pay back the Dem cash cows. Someone should follow the money.


Reply 9 - Posted by: peebster, 2/15/2013 11:20:08 AM     (No. 9178049)

Well, duh...to protect against whom they earlier identified as the greatest threat to national security...and if you remember, that would be US.


Reply 10 - Posted by: Freeloader, 2/15/2013 11:25:33 AM     (No. 9178056)

Why? Do the words of His Imperial Majesty Emperor Kingfish offer us a clue?:

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we´ve set. We´ve got to have a civilian national security force that´s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

You da man Kingfish! SIEG HEIL!!!


Reply 11 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 2/15/2013 11:39:41 AM     (No. 9178088)

Of course, this explanation is pathetic. The big government purchase of 1.6 billion rounds, plus the weaponry also on order is unprecedented, and every body knows it. The cynical side of me says this is a deliberate effort by central command to create artifical shortage of ammunition, which appears to be long term, if not permanent.


Reply 12 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/15/2013 11:41:13 AM     (No. 9178092)

1. To use on US.

2. To run up the cost of bullets.

3. To dry up the supply so WE can´t find them.

The ammunition/gun manfacturers need to put a limit on how much the govt. can purchase...Sorry you already exceeded your limit, you have no proof you shot it all up, no deal!


   

 

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Reply 13 - Posted by: phx4546, 2/15/2013 11:45:03 AM     (No. 9178099)

the plan is to solve the unemployment problem by hiring people (legal or illegal) to put the bullets into the large magazine clips they take from law abiding American citizens.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Kurto, 2/15/2013 11:46:31 AM     (No. 9178105)

Maybe they are all shooting skeets?


Reply 15 - Posted by: St. Pitbull, 2/15/2013 11:53:48 AM     (No. 9178120)

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can chime in, but aren´t there "use by" dates that the gov´t has on ammunition? Meaning that this ammunition must be used by _______ or then be discarded.


Reply 16 - Posted by: pensom2, 2/15/2013 11:55:23 AM     (No. 9178122)

Why purchase the much more expensive and dangerous hollow point ammo only to expend it all in target practice? Two possibilities: (1) Big Sis is lying; and (2) the motive here is to pay off dem donors who are ammo manufacturers or sales middlemen. As in all politics, follow the $$.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Italiano, 2/15/2013 11:58:34 AM     (No. 9178127)

I´ve "heard" that a lot of the 5.56 is going to Korea. Evidently, big events are expected over there.


   

 

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Reply 18 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 2/15/2013 11:59:20 AM     (No. 9178130)

Historically the actual facts are usually the opposite to any report by AP.


Reply 19 - Posted by: LadyVet, 2/15/2013 12:07:23 PM     (No. 9178144)

#2 and #12 have it figured out. This is control by executive order. Congress should cut the funds for this. Of course, if you operate on continuing resolutions, there is not much control, which is why Dingy Harry keeps doing business this way.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Mass Minority, 2/15/2013 12:21:23 PM     (No. 9178170)

Simple Math

Homeland used 15 million rounds at its facilities last year

70,000 officers attended last year

Thats 214 rounds per trainee. Thats actually reasonable.

But to get from 15 million to 1.6 billion would require the facilities to train 7.5 million officers per year. or 70,000 officers a year for 106 years.

to stock a homeland security office with 10,000 rounds would require 160,000 offices (3200 offices per state) or one fully stocked office for each 2000 US citizens.

If each state had 100 fully staffed offices each office would have 320,000 rounds. To actually use 1.6 billion rounds in a year would require 1 million officers each to fire a full box of ammo a week, every week, for the full year.

I´m sorry, there is no way you can justify purchasing this much ammo in any single year, or five year period for that matter, for a domestic police force.


Reply 21 - Posted by: shamrock, 2/15/2013 12:28:59 PM     (No. 9178185)

On a gun forum yesterday, it was pointed out that if the government places an order, for what ever reason, they go to the top of the list, by law. So by tying up all the production for "govt orders", these ammo companies can´t fill their huge back orders to retail outlets. Most believe this will pass, eventually, but next time, get what you can before all this panic buying cleans out the pipeline.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 2/15/2013 12:40:21 PM     (No. 9178209)

All right, folks, once more.......they´re not buying "bullets" - they are cartridges, or rounds of ammunition. Jeez, get it right; be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

I think when the "sequester" hits, it ought to include FLETC, DHS, and the IRS.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: belwhatter, 2/15/2013 12:43:17 PM     (No. 9178213)

We could blow up all that ammo and have one spectacular 4th of July -


Reply 24 - Posted by: Rolfnader, 2/15/2013 12:44:06 PM     (No. 9178215)

I believe that one of the only pieces of legislation that IL Sen Obama put his name on , had to do with controlling guns by limiting access to ammo. I´ll not waste my time looking it up because he´s not worth it-but I think it one of the very few on which he voted ´yes ´ instead of ´present´.


Reply 25 - Posted by: OhMy, 2/15/2013 12:58:34 PM     (No. 9178248)

Is there no limit on the size of clips or the number of bullets the govt has to shoot each citizen? Perhaps the mexican drug cartels are running out of ammo for their fast and furious guns.


Reply 26 - Posted by: woodsman, 2/15/2013 1:23:01 PM     (No. 9178302)

You don´t target shoot with hollow points...you use the cheaper FMJ rounds...this is BS


Reply 27 - Posted by: moviegoer, 2/15/2013 1:28:44 PM     (No. 9178309)

Was this supposed to be a "case-closed," reassuring article??? It missed the mark.
The reporter´s smug tone implied, "you conservative nuts need to stop thinking about this; there´s absolutely nothing to be concerned about." But after reading the article, I feel even more concerned -- here´s documentation of purchases that go wildly beyond logical needs. When are reporters going to drop the blinders and dig in to find out what´s going on?


Reply 28 - Posted by: coldoc, 2/15/2013 1:33:18 PM     (No. 9178316)

So the picture shows a round loaded with a lead bullet like I reload for target shooting and cowboy action. Completely misleading and typical AP "reporting". I think the iranian press corpse (sorry, I couldn´t help it) is more trustworthy.


Reply 29 - Posted by: Smaj, 2/15/2013 1:35:50 PM     (No. 9178322)

The feds know this house of cards we call an economy is liable to collapse at any moment, and collapse very quickly. I´m sure their plan is to impose martial law and control us through the distribution of food and other resources needed to sustain life. I´m also sure they think they need all this ammo to properly control us.


Reply 30 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/15/2013 1:38:17 PM     (No. 9178329)

Ammunition Manfacturers:

It has come to our attention that YOU are purchasing far more ammunition than you need. Therefore from now on there will be a 200% surcharge. We intend to use those extra funds to subsidize purchases by American Citizens, besides, aren´t we supposed to support taking from the rich, YOU and giving to the not so rich, our other customers.


Reply 31 - Posted by: suziannr, 2/15/2013 2:36:46 PM     (No. 9178426)

why are retail stores placing limits on the rounds American Citizens can buy yet the Manufacturers place no restrictions on the government? The Manufacturers know what WE buy so the government should be limited to what is manufactured past that amount...silly me



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