California Police Chief Ken James insisted earlier this month that the idea of a gun as a “defensive weapon” was a “myth.” Speaking at a news conference about gun control with California lawmakers, James explained that he was concerned with the amount of weapons owned by American citizens. “One issue that always boggles my mind is that the idea that a gun is a defensive weapon,” James said. “That is a myth. A gun is not a defensive weapon.” James is the Police Chief of Emeryville, California and the Police Chief Association’s Firearms Committee Chairman.
Comments: Oh really? Isn´t it depressing that people this stupid are in such powerful positions. His statement has become a subject of ridicule among gun owners online. Do ya think?
After I was elected to a county position some years ago, I learned that elected officials did not need to be smart or anything near. They just needed more votes than the other guy. Police chiefs are elected in most communities.
"None of you fellers kin have guns, only us (sniff). ´Cuz we´re special...´n trained and all that (sniff). Did you see the way we kilt that feller in th´ cabin? Yessiree, only cops should have guns, cuz only cops (sniff) has the right to kill folks. Now leave me alone, my mom´s comin´"
#5, Police Chiefs are appointed by the city government, County Sheriffs on the other hand are elected. Most (at least big-city) police chiefs are [insert series of disparaging adjectives], anti-freedom types. However your remark about elected officials is well taken.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Does not matter if a gun is defensive or not, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, is very clear. Note the Amendment does not say, we will let the people keep and bear arms to maintain a well regulated Militia. The amendment ends with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Also note this is a right of the people, to allow our RULERS a narrow interpretation of this Amendment is to allow limitations on the remainder of the Bill of Rights.
knucklehead. OK, an Emeryville resident calls 911. Her house is being broken into. The 911 operator will have someone there, maybe the chief himself, in a mere 10, 15 minutes. She has a gun in her drawer next to her bed, a knife in the kitchen and a baseball bat in the closet. All are potential defensive weapons. Which would be the most effective, there, chief?
I have no concern about "the amount of weapons owned by American citizens." On the contrary, chief, civilian owned firearms give me confidence that bad government that you are a part of won´t do a police state crackdown that you dream about, chief. Come on chief, just admit it, you´d like to go door to door.
How are the two ladies doing that the police shot and wounded because they were in a truck that looked like Dorner´s. What ever happened to the old ´get out of the car with your hands up in plain sight´ warning while hiding behind police vehicles. I guess shoot first and warn later is the new policy.
No #1, the problem is that it´s NOT "only in California"! Law enforcement officers at all levels of government have taken on a SWAT mentality, and it´s gotten very scary. They´re even killing people´s dogs, and frequently. (I´m not talking about vicious male pit bulls either.)
Example: The mayor of a town in Maryland was attacked in his home by a SWAT team after a package that contained marijuana had been left on his front porch by UPS. No one in the local constabulary thought it important enough to simply knock on Hizzoner´s door and ask him about the package (which he hadn´t picked up and which remained on his porch). The SWAT team busted down his door, shot his two golden retrievers, and held the mayor and his family face-down on the floor for hours! (It turns out that there was drug-smuggling operation among some UPS employees.)
No, this is a national problem. California has plenty of self-inflicted problems all right, but trashing California with reckless abandon misses the point: Cops in America are frequently getting completely out of control.
“The aim of Newspeak is to remove all shades of meaning from language, leaving simple concepts (pleasure and pain, happiness and sadness, goodthink and crimethink) that reinforce the total dominance of the State,“ quoted from Wikipedia under Newspeak (Orwell, 1984), “Newspeak is closely based on English but has a greatly reduced and simplified vocabulary and grammar. The totalitarian aim of the Party is to prevent any alternative thinking—"thoughtcrime", or "crimethink" in the newest edition of Newspeak—by destroying any vocabulary that expresses such concepts as freedom, free enquiry, individualism, resistance to the authority of the state and so on.“
I invite the gentleman to break into my house in the middle of the night and see whether my gun defends me or not. If it does not, he has nothing to fear. If that is not to his liking, I invite him to work the night shift in Watts or BellFlower without his gun. After all, he says he is as safe without it as he is with it.
A lot of you have missed the worst part about his statement. That is when he explains why the police carry them. The police carry guns because a gun is "an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power."
Fine Chief. Give up your gun first. Then move into the worst neighborhood you can find. Take the locks off your house, your car, leave your valuables out where everyone can see them. Announce to world that everything is groovy. Then let us know what happens.
FTA: "A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power,” he asserted, explaining to the audience that police officers don’t carry weapons to defend themselves, but to do their job in a “safe and effective manner.”
I think people are conflating stupidity with evil...most liberals think like he does, that the only use for a gun is to dominate or eliminate one´s enemies. That´s why so many liberals own guns even as they advocate disarming everyone else.
It stands to reason police in general don`t want the citizens to be armed. It makes their job a whole lot easier. However, my 2nd Amendment right and my universal God given right to protect myself trumps whatever his or anyone else`s `feelings` are regarding citizens rights to keep and bare arms. Who is this officer really looking out for here? He knows full well the criminal element does`nt abide by the law in the first place, and won`t give up their guns, so what is his justification for law abiding citizens to give up ours?
As prior posters have pointed out, he believes armed police are not there to serve the public, but to serve as an instrument of intimidation to ensure submission to the state.
He is exactly the type of character our Founders feared would come to a position of power, and made the effort to ensure that such tyrants could be countered by the right of law-abiding people to speak out against them, and ultimately, oppose with arms.
Well there Police Chief James. If a gun isn´t used for defense. Just what the heck are YOU using them for???? It is either for defending, or offending. What is your story there chief. We would like to know. Because we all k.ow it´s for enforcement right. I kind of look at it that way also. It is to let the other guy that may want to harm me or mine know that I stand ready to enforce to NOT let him harm me or mine. Enough said know go reread Our Constitution. What part of the Right to hold and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED UPON do you not understand?
Look at him! He looks like an old hippy!!! He is chief in Emeryville (aka E-vil). It is right outside of Berkeley and North Oakland. He is an old hippy communist who is lying to disarm the public and force his tyrant ways on the rest of us. E-ville has crime just as bad as Oakland and there are areas that are worse than many parts of Oakland or Richmond even though it is a tiny city. What a piece of work. Somebody needs to get rid of this old hippy.
This clown actually "explained to the audience" that police officers don´t carry weapons to defend themselves.
So.. if a bad guy has a gun .. and aims the gun at the police .. their gun is not to be used to defend themselves.
All the police in this little town (the website says in 2009 it had a population of 10,087 ... 1/5th the size of baseball´s Busch Stadium) had better practice making scary faces at and scowling at bad guys.
Police chiefs, for the most part, are nothing more than butt boys for the Mayor and city council. Sheriffs, on the other hand, have to get elected by the public, hence the many differences of opinion between the two groups...
You know what´s a myth? That the police are there to protect you. There aren´t enough police to protect you, nor would you want that either. Police are there to respond typically after crimes are committed, for crowd control, to break up large parties. They are not there to prevent crime to your person. All you can do is protect yourself. If you are out and about, you can try to run. If you are in your home with no place to run, the only way to protect yourself effectively is with a gun.
You know another myth? That being a police chief requires 1/2 a brain. My best friend is a cop, at his old job the chief rode him constantly, he was not one of his "drinkin´ boys". My friend joined a force in another city. The chief? Lost his job because he had hot tub sex with a dispatcher at a wild party.
These leftist Police Chiefs need to keep their clap traps shut. Do they not realize that by making such assinine statements that they are reinforcing the need for private citizens to have weapons equal to those that these "protect and defend" yukyuks have? The "militarization" of this nation´s cities and counties police forces have done nothing but increase the divide of mistrust between the "public servents" and those served.
Emeryville is not known as a particularly leftist city. It is known for its welcoming of businesses, leaving them alone while other cities nearby harass and leech them, and thereby stealing many companies and businesses from these other cities. It´s not known for good government or friendliness to anything other than business.
Leftists are not the only enemies of the second amendment; so are oligarchs.
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