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Christopher Dorner in gun
battle with authorities, source says

Los Angeles Times, by Andrew Blankstein

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Posted By:JoniTx, 2/12/2013 4:25:02 PM

Christopher Dorner was engaged in a shootout with federal authorities in the Big Bear area Tuesday, a law enforcement source told The Times. The shooting occurred after Dorner burglarized a home, tied up a couple and stole their car, the source said. It was not immediately clear whether Dorner was in custody. A second source said there was an active crime scene but did not have details. Law enforcement officials were swarming the area.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 4:29:42 PM     (No. 9172695)

Every Los Angeles area TV station is on this. An officer has been wounded. There is also a report (unverified) that there was a home invasion robbery in the area and a pickup truck stolen.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 4:29:58 PM     (No. 9172696)

He is not in custody.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 4:31:36 PM     (No. 9172698)

Watching live so not reading article. Just reported that its believed he tied the couple up shortly after he left the other pickup burning. The cabin is near the search command post.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 2/12/2013 4:34:28 PM     (No. 9172702)

Wow. I thought he was dead. I hope the people in the mountains in SoCal stay safe.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 4:35:20 PM     (No. 9172704)

He had been holed up with this tied-up couple. The female finally got loose and called 911. That is when he took the pickup and headed away. Supposedly down Highway 38. Then the shootout apparently ensued.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 4:39:28 PM     (No. 9172710)

KTLA Los Angeles local station now over a cluster of vehicles on the highway. One, possibly two officers down. He is said to be heavily armed. Maybe now on foot.

Reporting very fragmented.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 4:42:35 PM     (No. 9172712)

Focus seems to be on a cabin in Seven Oaks area. Smoke grenades have been thrown. Lots of law enforcement vehicles
arriving.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Ladyhawke, 2/12/2013 4:45:27 PM     (No. 9172717)

Poster 1, I appreciate the updates!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Topic Thunder, 2/12/2013 4:45:32 PM     (No. 9172718)

It´s all going to come down to how many Stallone and Schwarzenegger movies this guy has seen as to what our chances for survival are.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: jalo1951, 2/12/2013 4:48:23 PM     (No. 9172723)

God´s protection for the police officers and all involved. I hope they get him but so often these guys kill themselves. If he kills himself he cannot hurt anyone else. Glad the couple was not hurt.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Northcross, 2/12/2013 4:49:08 PM     (No. 9172725)

Remember, this thug is a folk hero to the police hating leftist kooks.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 4:49:16 PM     (No. 9172727)

Setting up a perimeter. Latest report is that an officer was seen "dragging" another officer away from outside the cabin where Dorner was holed up , taking him out to the road where presumably he was taken away. No report on his condition.

Now the KTLA helicopter is above a group of vehicles on the road outside the cottage. There are officers around the vehicles, using them as shields, with weapons drawn.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tocsin, 2/12/2013 4:50:30 PM     (No. 9172728)

Dorner is giving his hero, Obama, more ammunition for his big speech tonight.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Susannah, 2/12/2013 4:56:53 PM     (No. 9172737)


Thanks very much for the updates, EB.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 4:56:58 PM     (No. 9172738)

Something creating a great deal of smoke erupted out on the driveway area near the street. No report on what it is or who is responsible for it. It appears to be useless as it is not near either the cabin or the gathered law enforcement. ???

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Reply 16 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 5:06:33 PM     (No. 9172752)

A larger cabin on the right side of the screen - a smaller one on the right. I can see several armed persons behind the smaller one. If he´s watching TV, he can see them, too... Dumb.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 5:07:00 PM     (No. 9172755)

The larger cabin is on the left.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: schnapps, 2/12/2013 5:07:12 PM     (No. 9172756)

Many law enforcement officers in the area now. 2 deputies wounded that they´re trying to reach to give medical attention to.
No one has put down their guns yet.


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Reply 19 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 5:10:14 PM     (No. 9172764)

Statement from LE. Just after noon there was a report of a stolen vehicle. Officers responded and eventually tracked it to the place where everything is focused now. He may have gone off into the forest; he may be in the larger cabin they are watching.

Apparently he engaged the officers that tracked the stolen vehicle, so he may be in that cabin. Reports are still murky.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Judge, 2/12/2013 5:11:12 PM     (No. 9172767)

I hope they blow him away and get it over with. I dont want to read about this worthless killer for the next 2-3 years

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Reply 21 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 5:11:59 PM     (No. 9172769)

Not sure where #18 is getting info. Does not agree with what is being broadcast from the area on every Los Angeles channel.

At least one wounded officer has been taken to hospital. No information around the other, but no mention that they have not received aid.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 5:17:16 PM     (No. 9172784)

The woman who owns the complex of cabins where they believe he may be holed up is now talking with KTLA. Over the weekend her sister was in the large cabin where they now believe Dorner may be, but is not there now. This woman "Candy" says the tiretracks in the snow may have been made by her sister.



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Reply 23 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 5:22:25 PM     (No. 9172795)

LE has now instructed KTLA´s helicopter to pull off and do only very long shot of the area (they were showing things very close-up). They don´t want Dorner to be able to see anything tactical.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: rlcnutter, 2/12/2013 5:23:57 PM     (No. 9172799)

Gee, maybe it´s time to use a drone /s

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Topic Thunder, 2/12/2013 5:24:18 PM     (No. 9172801)

I MADE IT MA, TOP OF THE WORLD!!!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 5:26:20 PM     (No. 9172810)

Both injured officers have been airlifted to hospital - just reported on KTLA.

"The entire mountain is now saturated with officers. All highways are blocked - in and out - all schools in lockdown. All residents have been told to stay locked indoors."



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Reply 27 - Posted by: artsy, 2/12/2013 5:31:22 PM     (No. 9172816)

Along with my hope that no more officers or civilians get hurt, wouldn´t it be interesting if this drags on into the SOTU speech?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 5:31:27 PM     (No. 9172817)

KTLA says very active scene going on. Some shots were heard a few minutes ago. KTLA helicopter is not transmitting anything live now. Using footage shot earlier.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 6:07:16 PM     (No. 9172878)

Representative of LAPD having news conference: The effort in Big Bear is being handled by San Bernardino law enforcement. Los Angeles resources mobilized and standing by if SB needs them.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 6:11:51 PM     (No. 9172889)

The LAPD representative said the earlier report that he had taken two persons hostage a few days ao has not been confirmed. San Bernardino Sheriff Department handling.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 6:22:08 PM     (No. 9172906)

Newsers from various outlets are stuck at the roadblocks set up at least ten miles away. Those of you who are reading this thread know more than they do! At least we got ours from the KTLA helicopter, which is a superior source of news when it is not asked to back off.

If those guys transmit their speculation, the reports coming out of here will be varied, bizarre, and not necessarily accurate.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 6:27:43 PM     (No. 9172921)

Now reporting that the truck was taken in a hijacking. Walking down the road, he stopped a camp director driving with his dog and hijacked his white pickup. The truck was supposedly tracked to the cabin they have been watching and which they have surrounded.

All vehicles leaving the mountain on all sides are being stopped and occupants checked.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: veritas, 2/12/2013 6:30:14 PM     (No. 9172926)

Individuals are quite free to be interested or not, but if there was any doubt that the media are utterly, wholly, totally, completely, wholly, and utterly without perspective, that´s a closed question now.

Even if Dorner had stolen the presidential nuclear-launch-codes "football" and was trying to find "Beijing" on the list, it wouldn´t warrant the airtime this is getting. YMMV.

BTW -- North Korea and Iran have nuclear devices that can easily be hidden in any one of the freight-shipping containers you see every day. And Communist China has and runs what is, IIRC, the largest container facility in the world in the Caribbean, a bit east of the Panama Canal. It happens to have a very large, closed building on-site. Where containers can get, oh, repainted? Re-lettered? New numbers and markings applied? Heck, even have radiation shielding installed, but why would anyone do that? Or even just move a device into a pre-prepared, everyday, grabbed from the existing supply, container indistinguishable from all the rest? But who -- who, I say -- would risk the Wrath of Stinky?

And... anyone who is in the least technically-informed can give you 10, 20, 30 other scenarios thousands of times deadlier than one wacko ex-cop, given an hour. Scenarios requiring no more, in some cases, than 3 or 4 terrorists. Or even one. So....

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Reply 34 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 6:46:43 PM     (No. 9172961)

One deputy shot earlier this afternoon is now reported to be deceased.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 7:20:15 PM     (No. 9173027)

Los Angeles Times verified to KTLA that Dorner tied up two hostages last Thursday and stayed in their cabin through the weekend (big snow storm) until he left this morning in the stolen truck.

The cabin Dorner is believed to be in today is now reported as being fully engulfed i flames.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 8:03:23 PM     (No. 9173093)


The sheriff´s department reported they received a call on a stolen (not a hijacked) pickup. Sheriffs located pickup with someone who looked like Dorner inside, he fled on foot into the woods and barricaded himself in a cabin. That is when the gun battle ensued in which the two deputies were shot.

They are now letting the cabin burn down until the sheriffs give the OK to go in.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/12/2013 8:44:36 PM     (No. 9173164)

The story becomes more strange. It seems that Dorner, after his first blue truck burned (he may have set it on fire), holded up in a cottage across from what became the command post for the search. For several days he was able to look down and watch the whole thing, news conferences, etc.This morning two cleaning ladies arrived. He tied them up and stole their car. He wrecked that car; then walked down the road and hijacked a white Dodge pickup truck, which was tracked to the cottage where he holed up and which it is believed he remained in when it began to burn.

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Posted By: MissMolly- 2/8/2014 5:50:35 AM     Post Reply
The largest and most comprehensive study of bird collision deaths ever finds that nearly 1 billion birds die in building crashes every year, a shocking number that has fans of the feather creatures urging construction companies to use new materials to stop the annihilation. The mortality study from over 92,000 records found that between 365 million and 988 million birds crash and die in the United States. The number easily climbs over 1 billion when reports from Canada are included. Only cats are a bigger danger to birds, killing as many as 3 billion a year in the U.S. “Our

Was Obama stoned
during Bob Costas interview?

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American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 2/8/2014 7:50:56 PM     Post Reply
The emergence of Twitter as a social media goliath has unleashed gossip and speculation as a media force. The long term consequences are unknowable, but in the meantime, with a far left president with a dicey past, it is producing some highly amusing results. Last night, President Obama explained to Bob Costas of NBC Sports why he wasn´t attending the Sochi Olympics, but the substance of what he had to say was lost in the controversy that erupted on Twitter over whether or not he was stoned. Yahoo writer Mike Oz took the high road, as would nearly any journalist, and described the president as looking "sleepy."


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