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Potential showdown on immigration
reform likely to be on how safe
is Southwest border, who decides

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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/10/2013 5:49:07 AM

The effort in Washington to pass immigration reform is headed for a potential showdown over border security – with the Senate and White House plans putting different emphasis on the issue, and Democrats and Republicans appearing to disagree over the extent of the problem. The likely conflict was highlighted last week when Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano declared U.S. borders secure and said Republicans have a flawed argument about border security needing to precede comprehensive immigration reform. "I believe the border is secure,” Napolitano said Monday in San Diego, during a three-day swing of the Southwest border.

ICE´s instructions are to arrest and release, of course.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Spidey, 2/10/2013 5:59:47 AM     (No. 9168239)

You wouldn´t need border security if our internal policies were correct beginning with the denial of welfare for anyone who´s snuck in this country.Make illegal immigration a felony disqualifying people from getting student loans. In other words cut off their money supply and they´ll go back home on their own.

The birth rite amendment was to assure recently freed slaves had citizenship rights,nothing to do with anchor baby tourists dropping in.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 2/10/2013 7:17:59 AM     (No. 9168291)

The border is useless if you have by policy a ´sanctuary county´ where the law is ignored. That´s why yet another ´amnesty program´ is useless. It will be just like 1986 all over again.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bigken2, 2/10/2013 7:51:03 AM     (No. 9168340)

let the people of the border areas decide when it secure maybe when big sis only needs sisors on the border it is secure

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rustycfc, 2/10/2013 7:56:49 AM     (No. 9168351)

she belives the borders are secure,she should belive first hand the bordsrs are secure.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: HotRodLincoln, 2/10/2013 8:18:34 AM     (No. 9168385)

Have the Senate spend a few weeks in Laredo TX then decide.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: plex, 2/10/2013 8:44:02 AM     (No. 9168405)

You need only see the signs warning US citizens to stay out of an area near the border because it is unsafe to realize that the border is not safe in any way.

see story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKJ3m-_HWGI

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Reply 7 - Posted by: stablemoney, 2/10/2013 8:51:09 AM     (No. 9168413)

If the border is secure, why do we have all these illegals in this country? Whey are they caught everyday driving down the interstate? Why is there no English at any construction site in America? Why do we have to publish everything in mulitple languages now, English usually being second?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ConradNY, 2/10/2013 8:52:59 AM     (No. 9168414)

The secure border is worthless as Obama ignores laws and will just declare it secure.

We need to make illegal immigrants felons and amend the constitution to end anchor babies.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Dragonslayer2, 2/10/2013 9:33:50 AM     (No. 9168471)

Enuf! TaKe N´s; kick A´S; clean house.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/10/2013 10:16:02 AM     (No. 9168524)

I think Napolitano uses "secure" much as Bill Clinton used "is". Does she mean secure, as in tight and impenetrable? Secure, as in border crossings pose no threat? I would have more faith in her meaning if the cartels weren´t flowing in and out, while they plant crops in our national parks and kidnap and threaten US citizens in our own border towns.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/10/2013 1:50:06 PM     (No. 9168862)

Boloney, if the borderline was secure at least half the illegal alien population would not be here now. To the other half of the illegal alien population, especially most of the women and children, borderline security was always irrelevant, as they came into the USA with a either some sort of temporary visa, or border crossing card, issued to them by the US Dept. of State in their home countries. After entering the USA they simply stayed and have been using some sort of bogus or fraudulent US identification papers to get hired to American jobs. Some have assumed the identity of or are posing as US citizens. Since Obama was elected and decided to no longer enforce the immigration laws, 11 to 20 million illegal aliens have been living here without fear of ever being deported.

The real showdown will depend on if the wimpy Republicans have decided to surrender this issue to the liberal Democrats, by going along with a liberal Democrat "path to citizenship" amnesty for just about all the illegal aliens here now, that will essentially hand the Democrats 10 million or so new voters in the next few years. If that happens that Republican share of the so-called Hispanic vote may jump up from 27% to 32% or so, but that will not matter, because with their millions of new voters the Democrats will be able to change the political balance in enough states to ensure that the wimpy Republicans will have committed long-term political suicide, no longer ever again to win national elections. As Joe Biden would say, this is a big f****** deal.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Penney, 2/10/2013 3:39:29 PM     (No. 9168999)

When property owners and BP agents are murdered by ILLEGALS and when the Federal Government has placed signs warning tourists to stay out of America´s own National Parks along the border, ...or ANYPLACE else, thepotential of danger to everyone has already been decided!!! Now is the time to return safety to American citizens, their personal property and to public lands, National Parks which belong to U.S.A. citizens EQUALLY! ...And clean up the mess left strewn behind by ILLEGALS throughout formerly pristine rural lands.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: saguni, 2/10/2013 4:44:11 PM     (No. 9169089)

We need a comprehensive immigration policy, and we already have one.

Simply enforce--fully and to the letter of the law--the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 (Hart-Celler Act, INS, Act of 1965, Pub.L. 89–236), for at least six months.

Revisit the Fourteenth Amendment, especially the clause "under the jurisdiction of" which was misinterpreted in a footnote to an unrelated case, by a Supreme Court Justice writing the dissent to a ruling, thereby "creating" birthright citizenship.

Severely restrict our lenient "sanctuary" system to people who are actually persecuted in their home country, not including economic migrants.

Most importantly, any criminal alien invader should never "profit" from breaking the spirit of the law by trespassing into this country, if they receive any permanent status, they should be forever forbidden to apply or receive government benefits or bring additional family members, who have not qualified on their own for immigration status.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Penney, 2/12/2013 1:38:42 PM     (No. 9172377)

Considering existing Federal Immigration Law, shouldn´t everyone attending tonight´s State of the Union speech who brings along as guests ILLEGAL aliens be arrested for trafficing? ...It is illegal ya know.

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