It reads like something out of Alex Jones, so ordinarily, I would pooh-pooh it. Not now. I believe it. What is going on HAS been planned for a long time...

I write for the Canada Free Press on occasion-- and I like their openness to articles like this.

Do I believe this: I do know the dollar will be crushed, inflation will soar.

I don´t know about the hackers-- or the attack on Washington. But before all that would occur, I believe a military coup supported by some of the Washington right might be part of the balancing act.

Whatever does happen-- we´re all going to die someday. It´s more important to realize that we´ll all meet our Maker-- either as one who is saved and sanctified, or as one who is destined for Hell.

That´s more important because it involves eternity!

Yikes! Though I´m not surprised by any of it. I´ve been reading The Ulsterman, White House Insider and Wall Stree Insider for some time. Commenter was right when they said it´s like we are at the bottom of a hill and there´s this great big snowball coming right at us and we don´t know what to do but stand there and wait for it to hit us.

Looks like this got to really going good during the GHWB era, Klintoon moved it along, as did GWB. I specifically remember being surprised about reading about GWB signing EO´s that would fit with this and how surprised I was. And every time Alex Jones´ name is mentioned, people poo poo him like crazy but maybe they are the crazy ones. Too many are going to be too surprised when it happens.

And finally, I am thankful for the Canada Free Press and the UK Daily Mail for without them we would know nothing. Our media has their heads up Obama´s nethers.

The Bushes loved their country & they respected the military. I don´t think revenge was their vocabulary.

I´m pretty stupid I guess but I don´t see the point of this. They already have us on the path to socialism. Does Obama want to become a dictator?

To anyone attempting to ascertain my true identity from this forum, eff U... come and get me if you think you can.
Sincerely,
60-year-old grandma of 6

I am a huge fan of CFP . They post articles that most American Press would never touch. However in this case this insider is not saying anything that a well informed L DOTER don´t already know. Most of us have been preparing for a collapse since 08. The Propagandist MSM in this Nation have started a War with some Folks that buy Ink by the Drum.Let the Party begin.

"The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

Now you know why DHS is buying all the hollow point ammo...you DON´T ´train´ with Hollow points...they are only to kill people.

I knew when they implemented the DHS we lost the war on terror, and we lost true America. It was just a power grab by the ´one worlders´ like the Bush´s and now this crowd.
This has been going on for a while, and both parties are complicit.

This all seems VERY conspiratorial...and to believe this you´d have to believe that everyone from Bush, Sr. (why not just go back to Reagan and even Carter?), to Dick Cheney, to Newt Gingrich, to even, perhaps, Mitt Romney are all in on the conspiracy. I don´t buy it.

I do believe the LEFT tries to push their agenda by creating chaos and disrupting lives. I do think they do EVERYTHING they do in order to grab more power for THEMSELVES.

But this article is reading like some sort of whacked out Illuminati conspiracy.

They bought hollow point bullets for Social Security and other supposedly "benign" agencies for SOME reason though, didn´t they?!

I´m with poster # 6 -- come and get me -- grandma of 9....

Who they h@ll do they think they are.....

Maybe 100,000 bought and paid for gooooberment types in this country. WE are 360,000,000 strong.... AND you ain´t getting the guns.....

LZK

time to separate the boys from the men..no gender implied here,you get my drift..you know,one thing i have always believed..if you are going to die,die with your boots on..HT to the great Iron Maiden!!

I read an article as chilling as this and want to move to Bora Bora. Then, I stop myself and think...ok...Why would a bunch of rich conspirators take down the US and it´s people? So they can have our money and property? They´ve got it now!

I think, in some measure, that our Gov´t does plan for citizen uprisings be it race or not.

From an article on drudge: DHS is set to order another 22 million rounds of ammo.

And "An approximation of how many rounds of ammunition the DHS has now secured over the last 10 months stands at around 1.625 billion."

Well, now you have it. The intent is clear and their objectives obvious to all people with a positive number IQ. All government employees should be regarded with suspicion.

Although I´m not ( yet ) a grandmother, I am a grey haired 60 year old woman and I´m with #´s 6 and 12. The government thugs will probably get me in the end, but I´ll go out fighting.

Don´t buy it if you will. this has been happening since 1913 and the FED and before. Money is the key; Control the money and I care not what laws are put in place. (paraphrase by Rothschild) We´re looking at troublesome times.

Could not finish this article.

I was halfway through when rotor wash from the black helicopters blew off my tinfoil hat.

(I hate it when that happens.)

Binders of women. Binder of cyber warriors. When will it stop?

They are called trolls. The golden age of trolling on this site was in 2000. It´s been pathetic since.

This is the latest incarnation of the Tower of Babel. We know the story.

#18 -- Quick question -- can you name a time when people did not live in "troublesome" times?

Believe this article or not at your own choosing. I was a Girl Scout back in the 50´s and 60´s before it became a feminist pro abortion organization and I plan to "Be Prepared".

FTA: DH: Those who have been “purged” - why haven’t we seen anyone speak out about what’s going on?

RB: They’ve been threatened. Some were not worth even being threatened and became “examples.”

DH: Like who?

RB: Oh c’mon, look at the recent mysterious deaths. Pick one.

Andrew Breitbart, to name one.

Check out Agenda 21. This is all part of the plan to depopulate the world, including the US. The powers that were plan to further enslave us.

If you lose your money and food, it´s not a matter of someone coming after you. You won´t be able to just stay in and that could be what they´re gearing up for.

If there is this level of organization, is there any doubt the election was stolen?

Ah, I see zippys Cyber Warrior Trolls are at it already...

Molon Labe!

He who gives up a freedom for temporary security deserves neither.

Unbelievable article but, unfortunately, plausible considering who´s occupying the White House.

#24. There was nothing mysterious about Andrew´s death. His friends had been concerned and were begging him to take some time off. His family reported that he had been diagnosed with cardiac issues for some time.

My own brother dropped dead of a heart attack at age 27. His last few years were painfully close to Andrew´s: Warned that his heart was fragile he decided to live life to the fullest during what time he may have.

All of these cyber warriors and DEA, FBI, ICE, ATF folks all have homes, families and children, and have to go home every night.

This sounds nutty to me. I don´t believe it. But I can easily understand why some people do. It does in fact look a great deal like there is a vast conspiracy intent upon destroying America. Such a conspiracy would explain a great deal that doesn´t make sense by itself.

I don´t, myself, think that such a gigantic, secret, malevolent conspiracy exists. I think the danger we face is far greater than that. It might be easier -at any rate it would be simpler- to deal with such a plot than with what we actually confront: a moronic citizenry that is being led lemming-like by a clueless liberal Establishment in a blind race to the cliff. There could be a better chance of exposing and defeating a relatively small number of evil-doers, people knowingly trying to foul everything up and bring down the roof on our heads, than there is of combating a vast crusade of fools, camp followers and crooks, guided and led by clueless sophomoric liberals and political cranks.

I think they are preparing for the riots that will occur when the SCOTUS rules that Obambi is illegal and is removed from office, That will prompt a country-wide black rebellion. On February 15th they will have a conference on pending case to decide to take it up for review. Lets hope that happens.

The cyber warriors operation seems credible. It´s in line with what totalitarians do. But I can´t swallow the vast scale of this purported conspiracy. What´s in this for people like the Bushes and big bankers? Even if you think they are traitors, which I don´t, If our economy is destroyed they´re not going to benefit. Nobody benefits when there´s no money changing hands.

It looks like this guy took something real that is worth a lot of attention, and then spun this other conspiracy theory. In that way he is doing great harm, because it the LEFT that is doing this, and we can´t take our attention off that.

Very plausible article.

But if I´m not mistaken, this same insider predicted a Romney landslide.

I don´t know if this specifically is true, but this I DO know - what they have been doing to America IS bringing it down. And, I have been praying that the evil that some seem to be planning will come back on themselves. We, alone, can´t stop anything. But, I know One who can!!

#30 Yes, I read about his health issues, too. It´s the timing of his death, not to mention the location. I´m not saying Andrew was murdered, but I do question his death. Ever since Vince Foster, I stopped buying the ´pat answers´ when certain people die.

If one reads comments on many websites, the trolls are there. Brietbart gets more than it´s share. Right when "The Tea Party Community" was getting ready to publicly launch a week ago they had a serious attack---DOS that put the site down. The owners have since instituted the same type of secure site that banks and other entities use......the "http(s) secure. Of course, still the hackers can penetrate this.
Most conservative sites at one time or another have seen the trolls, the attacks and reading benign lefty sites people have let certain knowledge of "paid trolls" slip. These are usually a lot of insignificant sites where the "LO INFO" commenters think they are safe to say anything. They have a tendency to boast a bit to much, BUT this plays right along with obama´s new 501(c) set-up.
It´s most likely going to get worse....trying to get as much as possible out of Mutual Funds and IRAs as possible and have been for last several years. The "under the mattress" scenario works for me and mine.

Anybody that thinks they are going to take over this country should know: We will fight them on the shores, in the countryside, from building to building, house to house, room to room.

I tend to agree with #34 - what is in it for the winners when the whole country is crumbling down around their ears? The only answer I´ve heard came from a video I watched of Ann Barnhardt when she said that all of the lefties in power have one thing in common - a pathological desire to just MESS with people. IOW, control freaks who have a demonic need to control, harass & intimidate others because it plays into their delusions of grandeur. They want the power of LIFE & DEATH over others. Libs are selfish, empty souls who worship only themselves & it is a lonely, unsatisfying existence - so they try to destroy everybody else´s happiness, so that they won´t be alone in their misery.

I´m sorry. This just sounds too weird. I´m surprised Lucianne would make it a Must Read.

Well, if it happens, there´s no fence keeping us here.

I agree with #32. That said, what do you think about the stock market? Time to cash out while it´s high? Or will it stay that way?

#10, the people involved in the plot are the shadow government, the fellow travelers that are around the edges of the administration. George Soros has been responsible for collapsing economies for profit. The Science Adviser/Regulatory Czar has hypothesized putting sterilants in drinking water to limit population growth. He also knows that multi billion regulations will do the same to economic growth. They tried in 2009 to pass these as laws, but are fully prepared to implement same as regulations.

#42, you don´t understand. This was the go-to place for oppressed people. Now there is no more America: Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.

We gave it away for the equivalent of colored beads and fire water, i.e., free cell phones and EBT cards.

Some final thoughts. These Cyber Warriors are being paid minimum wage and their handlers slightly more? This really sounds like the beginnings of another Obama family member´s political campaign. Perhaps Michelle?

It´s going to take a lot more than a bunch of pimply-faced hackers with binders to pull this off.

Yes, we´re going to see troubled times but remember, the power of Impeachment. I think there´s going to be big trouble over this Benghazi thing.

I always go back to the deep, deep coffers of campaign money Zippy got illegally...no one questioned the foreign money and addresses; no one gave "OBL" his money back in Pakistan when Breitbart put through a donation using his name. We´re owned by many foreign entities now, and Zippy has given over our country to these interests.

His coffers are paying everyone off to stand down, or face ruinous blackmail or possibly something much worse. Clint Eastwood asks why should WE care if our leaders don´t? They can´t, apparently. Zippy and Val own everyone. John Roberts and Obamacare. Boehner. All the Republican congressional members White House Insider and Wall Street Insider rallied to the cause of ousting this regime. They ran like hell when the fire became real and very hot, or they had much too much to lose and hide. And, finally, the systematic removal of true military leaders, as in post-Benghazi purge, & only the political a-kissers remain to do Obama´s bidding.

Look at the audacity of a Hagel as SecDef, knowing who puts money in his bank account. They knew, and didn´t care. Zippy talking politics w/ Bibi while 4 abandoned Americans were left to die. He doesn´t have to care any longer...no one is a threat.

They own everyone who could cause a real problem to a real "regime" - except the average American citizen who is awake and aware. Those bullets are for us.

I am inclined to believe this report

Because I believe Obama represents all possible evil

It´s more simple than that. The zero admin plans to try to shove some very unpalatable things down the throats of American citizens and they expect a certain level of violent resistance. Only when it happens will they find out that they have severely underestimated the level of that resistance.

FTA: This is a continuing operation that involves many of the same people on both sides of the aisle in Washington. This is one of the reasons why no one wants to talk about Obama’s past. He is the product of a continuing intelligence operation, put in power to oversee the dismantling of the U.S., with the economy being the lynchpin...

That is one of the most chilling things I have ever read. Ironically, I just started reading Full Black by Brad Thor and at the front of the book he says the story is based the real blueprint to destroy America called Unrestricted Warfare. Search for that. It is horrifying. Soros´ name comes up also when you do that search. We can see that in play if this is true. And with China holding all of our money?? It´s too much to deal with. I put nothing past those who are in office now. Why would he write this if it was not true. The problem is, what in the world do we do about it. As if we didn´t have enough to worry about.

#45 I understand perfectly - and that´s my point. There was no fence to keep the masses out, and now there is no fence to keep US in.

I´m sorry, but this isn´t possible. There´s no way that anyone will be able to convince me that there are that many men and women in the armed forces (not to mention the law enforcement officials in states like Texas) that are just going to follow orders and not follow the Constitution. If our ruling elite is making a whacked-out plan like this, they are going to be in for a rude awakening when their "stand down" orders are disobeyed on a huge scale.

Where´s John McLain when you need him?

I don´t know if this is true or not but I used to listen to Doug Hagmann over the internet. When I found out that he believes 9/11 was an inside job,I quit listening. He is a big conspiracy theorist He and Alex Jones believe a like.

An interesting article. However, it has to be predicated on something that I don´t think will ever happen. And that is having the U.S. military turn on American citizens. Far too many soldiers, sailors, and airmen love their country too much to do that. And neither would they sit on the sidelines. Do a google search on the Battle of Athens, Tn that occured just after the close of WWII. That´s what will happen in today´s climate. And just remember that there are estimated to be over 2 millions guns in the hands of private citizens. And most of them are willing to take up arms to defend this country. This isn´t 1917 Russia.

If you are a believer in Jesus and the Bible, this is all laid out for you. The battle that is surely coming is between God and Satan. Humans are but pawns to Satan. I am pleased so many want to stand and fight and take back what has been stolen from us, but the most effective position is on your knees, engaged in Spiritual warfare. When our part is fulfilled, God is removing the church, and all hell will break out. Make sure your eternal future with God is secure, than plan to rescue as many as possible from what´s coming.

I´m unconvinced by conspiracy theorists. They sell books, have air time on radio and tv and love to tell us they´ve got the inside scoop.

Do I think we and this country are in danger? Absolutely. But my trust is elsewhere: "Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott"

#34 & 40:

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Cloward-Piven is also an explanation of sorts for the behavior we´re seeing.

I WISH I didn´t believe this but I have to say it rings true. I hope I am proved wrong.

Let ´em come and get me. HERE I AM!!!

And for those who don´t understand how bankers would make money on a collapsing economy, familiarize yourself with the term "selling short".

If you´re betting your money on a stock price falling, you win. If you´re tipped off in advance that a stock - or all stocks - will fall in return for your cooperation with the process, that´s playing with house money. Our money.

slight correction on your numbers, #55: it´s over 200 million, not 2 million guns, all in the hands of some 55 million gun owners.

Re the article, I found it interesting that there were little or no questions (perhaps I ovelooked them) regarding the "motives" of these "conspiracists" intent on destroying the US; e.g., I can readily accept people trying to gain power by controlling the citizenry and making them dependent on government, etc., but to destroy what you are trying to gain power over? That perhaps infers a willingness to diminish ones own standard of living. What am I missing here (someone please enlighten me)?

#61, If you are wealthy beyond dreams already, then more money does nothing for you. It´s the power that gets them going. Almost the whole entire world is a bunch of jellyfish people willing to be ruled by anyone.
Not so in America. Many here know what freedom is and will try to hold onto it when the time comes. So this last bastion of freedom is all that needs to fall before a one world rule can even happen.
If you want full control, you don´t care if America that was still exists, you actually want it gone!!

All of the issues discussed in Hagmann´s article range from plausible to compelling to inevitable. In this third category there is this from the article:

FTA [edited]:The DHS will oversee the domestic crackdown that will happen when the perfect storm bears down on us. And the perfect storm is:

1) The economy, meaning the U.S. dollar collapse and hyperinflation,
2) Racial or class riots sparked by a high-profile incident, and
3) Another mass causality event involving guns. Watch for these three things to happen all at once, or in close succession.

The polarization caused by these events will be sufficient to cause a second civil war.

In an earlier posting here, Andrew Malcolm discusses the outrageous purchase of millions of rounds of ammunition be various agencies of the federal government, led by DHS.

http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=722621

In his analysis of why this is occurring, Malcolm ties all of our fears (and Obama’s brilliant machinations) together and takes us back to July, 2008 when candidate Obama exposed part of his strategy for the subjugation of the U.S. and its citizens: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we´ve set. We´ve got to have a civilian national security force that´s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

DHS is the mechanism for that subjugation.

While we are distracted by the ghost of Mayer Amschel Rothschild that just passed by the window (booga booga!), the republicrats are sneaking out the back door with that coin collection we were counting on for our retirement. No matter, since according to this article we will soon be battling our neighbors in the street for that case of Span they have squirreled away in the basement.

Agree with the Ldot editor comment. Something is indeed going on. And what they have in mind for us is bad. Real bad. Think Rome in 410, or Jews in Jerusalem watching that cloud of dust getting bigger on the horizon over in the direction of Babylon. But these guys will lose. It is inevitable. And they haven´t got the first inkling of a clue why. They will never get it. They can´t get it. Educated beyond their abilities, every last one of them. They will be left muttering "what went wrong?" in their prison cells.

Buying ammo is one thing. Having enough people with the will, expertise and determination to expend it effectively against their countrymen is quite another.

I´m betting the under.

Please understand the plan: Push against the "privileged" in every wat. Pressure them financially. Humiliate them. Push against traditional moral values. Like the Founding Fathers, we will suffer tremendous violation without a violent response.

But one in a million can be counted on to flip out, to respond with justified rage, but perhaps with a level of violence that will easily be portrayed as "extremist" or "lunatic fringe."

The progressive establishment then ramps up the intrusions to the point that 2-5 percent can be provoked to violence. Once again, whether proportional and reasonable or not, it will be portrayed by the MSM as "extremist" "treasonous," etc.

My emphatic advice as always is to keep your powder dry. Clean your gun, resolve to use it ONLY against tyranny. Don´t wimp out when the fighting in the streets actually begins. We may yet avoid bloodshed.

Sorry...
should be "in every way."

And the "extremists" in stage one will be the "justification" for the added provocations, arrests, whatever, that are intended to bring out the additional violence for stage two.

The goal?

Imprison or kill all opponents of a New World Order, Obamessiah, AntiChrist, whatever name you put on it.

I don´t know what I believe but the article is chilling.

Lately trolls all post propaganda with the same words, when challenged merely repeat them. There is no way to break thru their trances, not worth trying.

I propose IGNOREING them. Hard to do but they are not trolling for clarification or facts and it is wasted keystrokes and playing into their plan, to enlighten them.

If unable to restrain from responding with clarifications, address those clarifications, facts, to a fellow conservative, as an informational or clarifying comment about the article. I will not address anything directly to the trolling ´cyber warrior´ but if they respond to me, tell them that I was not addressing them, and they should mind their own business. (or crawl back into their hole, or whatever floats your personal boat). Addressing them a ´Cyber Warrior´ or some interesting play on that name should be done every time.

If there is anything to the ´Cyber Warrior´ plan, eventually we may learn more about it from their responses. If there isn´t, eventually they will realize that we consider ´Cyber Warrior´ to be an insult and not a compliment.

Oh for Pete´s sake, something IS going on and it doesn´t need Cyber Warriors for Obama to make the inevitable economic collapse occur. Please go to www.usdebtclock.org and take about a minute to watch the numbers go up real fast. WE, you and I and me and you do nothing but elect people who make sure those numbers keep going up real fast while they come up with ridiculous "concerns" like debt ceilings to make them sound smart. Because we elect people who make sure we light our afterburners toward insolvency, we WILL eventually become insolvent. Now if DHS is trying to figure out how to handle the inevitable with Cyber Warriors for Obama, they´re not going to be very effective when NO ONE can afford the electricity to Cyber a cheese doodle let alone computer users. Since we´re more concerned about the pimples on Justin Bieber and the cellulite on Madonna, yes, eventually we will be overtaken and probably from a LARGE and powerful government to which we´ve lip-locked ourselves to. Wow, what a conspiracy and more so, what a surprise it can be figured out sans a Cyber Warriors for Obama handbook. Please pass the tinfoil.

What better way to suppress free speech than to put somebody out there saying these things. They don´t even have to lift a finger as we all go scurrying under the bed. We may have nothing to fear but fear.

I guess I´ve gotten pretty cynical. If I´m wrong and this is really happening, then they´ll have to drag this old lady out of her house in her pajamas. Ooooo. What a bunch of big ole mean bullies.

Reading and knowing stuff like this makes me want to connect dots....

Obama seems to be setting us up. He will push and push, hoping one of us snaps. Economics, race, whatever it takes to instigate serious conflict, because WE are unreasonable and violent (and armed). Then he can go down in history (he thinks) as the next Lincoln, presiding over the next civil war and (finally) freeing the blacks (who are still enslaved, he thinks, but perhaps only to him), and then rewrite the Constitution, and thus history.

Sound nutty? Connect the dots yourself. We have tried to buy more ammo lately, and there is a huge backlog of orders pending. A local gun store finally got a semi-truck shipment in, and it contained 6 ... SIX ... boxes of .22´s. Hundreds of boxes were ordered.

SIX. For a large big-box retail outlet. This administration is buying up the outstanding stock - maybe not to use against us, but certainly so we can´t (they think) use it against them.

(Meanwhile, all, if not most, of the recent irrational shootings have been committed by liberals. Where´s the call to shutter MSNBC?)

I think the economy could be destabalized quite easily and that is where it could begin. Whether this could lead to a civil war would take too much uncertainty as to how it would all turn out or even occur(about like predicting how a handful of coins when dropped would be heads or tails),but the colapse of the economy could be sufficient to destroy our country.

To #56 and #57 - me, too! And amen!

#30 is a troll, probably a cyber warrior. Ignore it. As for mysterious deaths, here are a few: Andrew Breitbart undoubtedly, plus the Los Angeles coroner who examined him, Ridley Scott´s younger brother Tony, the very young MIT hacker, and all of those SEALs. Heartbreaking. Consider the generals who are being resigned or forced out by scandals which aren´t very scandalous.

#68, don´t call them ´cyber warriors´, though - Call them ´cyber worms´ or ´cyber warts´ or ´cybert weasels´.....

#30 is the farthest thing from a troll. He/she is a long-standing conservative poster.

If the squirrels of the world ever decide to unite, they can meet here.

So if we take all our money out of the stock market/401K/etc. we pay full tax on it...then where do we put our money to protect whatever it will be worth at the time with devaluation?

Bring it on, Obie. Make my day, bro.

#55 It won´t be the U.S. military that will turn against us but Obama´s National Civilian Army to do the job. It is time for the 3G´s. God, guns, and grub.