Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta on Thursday revealed he personally broke the news to President Obama that the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, was under attack last year — but he and the president didn’t speak the rest of the night as the assault on the compound unfolded. Mr. Panetta said he and Mr. Obama, along with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, discussed the attack for 15 minutes in the Oval Office the afternoon of Sept. 11,
Comments: This was absolutely stunning testimony. Can you imagine what the media would do if this Pres. Bush had behaved this way?
This is disturbing and sickening. Is the Media of this country going to allow this to pass too? What will it take? If nothing else the House should take an impeachment vote. The Senate never will but there should be the stain of impeachment put upon Obama´s administration. Obama is a craven cold hearted and cowardly jerk from Chicago. His re-election was all he cared about at the time.
And to think Nixon had to resign over the cover up a third rate burglary, where no one got killed and those involved served time for the involvement.
In our "Alice in Wonderland" world, Obama gets re-elected, Clinton resigns with a whopping pension, a arsenal of campaign funds and the next step as the first female president, and Panetta slithers away with zero accountability as the Secretary of Defense.
But I do not entirely blame them. Since no Republican, no press, and no public is holding the entire administration accountable, the Dems just toss it off. Heads should roll and BO, HRC and Panetta should be serving time for accomplice to murders. All three have sworn duty to preserve American lives and are the only ones with the authority to authorize military strikes and rescue. BO´s statement that Panetta do whatever you can...is the penultimate of dereliction of duty.
THIS showed us today the depths of moral depravity to which we have sunk. A President, Secretaries of State and Defense can actually go about their merry way after such dereliction of duty, heartlessness, and stupidity. I almost lost it tonight hearing McCain pepper his assessments about Benghazi with "how much he admires Clinton and Panetta." Senator McCain, you should be ashamed. How can the Benghazi survivors assist their bosses in staying hidden and avoiding an interview? How can the late Ambassador´s poor family
really say absolutely silent? Does protecting Democrats truly come before EVERYTHING else now ?
I noted that Obama was not the only one who was derelict in his duty. Panetta says he did not talk to Hillary either. Hillary is a control freak who did not want anyone else on her turf. And she certainly did not want the military. In her mind, she loathes the military - same as her alleged husband. It would not be a normal reaction for Hillary to work with the military. Thus her people wasted 3 hours negotiating for a civilian plane out of Tripoli when the military could have been there, with much more force, a lot sooner. And of course, once she and her people started negotiating with the Libyans, they gave away the element of surprise.
We do not want this woman in the White House. She has terrible judgment, poor reactions in a crisis, and can´t out-think a Libyan 2nd Lt.
Unbelievable!! Congress, the press (old and new) seem to be ok with this. What a bunch of spineless losers - from the top down. It´s time for those 30 survivors to come forward. No one is going to be held accountable. One just has to shake their head. They should all be ashamed of themselves.
#9 I think has it exactly correct. This is truly sickening....
Reply 17 - Posted by:
Red Jeep, 2/8/2013 7:30:48 AM (No. 9165109)
"‘I believe that Obama murdered my son." Patrician Smith, mother of murdered Pat Smith.
"The father of one of the former Navy SEALs killed in the terrorist attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya says President Barack Obama wouldn’t even look him in the eye and Vice President Joe Biden was disrespectful during the ceremony when his son’s body returned to America. He also says the White House’s story on the attack doesn’t pass the smell test." Charles Woods, father of Tyrone Woods
Occam´s Razor - #9 has a theory but I think this is nothing more than the man child and the PIAPS not caring about or understanding in real time what was happening. Not fully knowledgeable in the military capabilities, as they loathe the military, they just walked away and did not perform the duties for which they were hired. The event did not fit their pre-election agenda so they probably believed it would just go away, especially if they could frame the incident with the message it was someone else´s fault. Then that message got away from them and their damage control began unraveling.
Negligent or incompetent you decide. But at the end of the day it truly will be "What difference, at this point, does it matter?" because nothing will come of this. It will be glossed over and forgotten before the next three news cycles.
“That’s something that can’t be ignored,” he said. “We sit around all day long and talk about the resources that we should have and don’t have. … [But] the big problem here is the cover-up, and nobody talks about it, and that’s a tragedy.”
I beg to differ: While the coverup is certainly germane to the unraveling of this Benghazi mess, the more important thing is that this President was utterly disengaged and that is how he wanted it.
As usual, Obama handoff the ball to someone else to drop. He has never, ever, in his entire laughably incompetent career, had the courage to make a decision that could possibly fail. He isn´t a leader. He is a coward.
What is interesting is the patronizing tone Hildebeast and Panetta take in explaining it away. If we feel berated, out of our league enough maybe we´ll stop making such a fuss over the whole debacle. Right?
Gotta love Panetta saying dialing 911 over in Libya doesn´t exist. Hey, the response time would have been too long, so why bother? Just take their word for it.
"Spared no effort" is B.S. Panetta, Hildebeast and crew did not lift a finger, literally. All they had to do was pick up the phone and dial. How hard is that?
Wouldn´t that be great to see all three stooges take a round house kick to the head in a cage and drop to the ground? We can dream I guess. No one deserves it more.
Does the US House of Representatives(controlled by REPUBLICANS)have a Foreign Affairs Committee? Why is that committee(controlled by REPUBLICANS)not holding hearings EVERY day on this? American Citizens want to know! Are we no longer citizens? Are we now subjects of the Democrat Monarchy? Would the usual suspects like to defend the Republians for THEIR malfeasance?
During the hearing IMO they would have liked to blame Gen. Hamm, N. Africon, for the lack of actions, but stopped short. There is more which needs to be uncovered.
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Truth Czar, 2/8/2013 9:35:58 AM (No. 9165379)
The yellow-bellied CinC delegated to a yellow-bellied Defense Secretary... and how many lies were fed to the American electorate in the ensuing weeks and months? Forget high crimes and misdemeanors, this is TREASON. A man with any morality would resign... a lesser man deserves impeachment!
No surprise at all, but this dereliction of duty would bother real journalists and real patriots. Instead, they´ll all slather at Fauxbama´s feet and say that the republicans are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
This is pathetic. What is Fauxbama doing--worrying over Sandra Fluke´s pills?
No. 19, I think Petreus gave an order to go to the rescue. There was a start made. There was an order to stand down. My guess is given by Brennan.
That claim that it started as a plot to have the Ambassador captured and exchanged for the blind sheik sounds crazy but for some reason Obama kept hands off and did not want to know. Remember too, he can come up[ with some wild plans, such as fast and furious..
Panetta and Dempsey looked like school boys in the principal´s office. You know they lied about almost everything. The one thing I think they told the truth about was Obama walking away from the situation. It is his MO and he was running for a second term. I do believe that maybe Panetta and Dempsey did try to do something and Jarret shut them down. She cannot be happy after Bin Laden and then they constructed the story about the video. Or as soon as there was trouble in Egypt the video story started surfacing and then they decided to keep applying it to Benghazi. They knew the press wouldn´t do anything. They probably also knew that Romney wouldn´t either.
None of these puzzle pieces fit together to make a plausable story. They are all lying, but the story is coming together. What we all know now is that they are all incompetent or they are covering up one big huge story and that is that the US is arming Muslims----mostly the radicals.
This is not the first national security crisis that Obama has slept through. Obama also slept through the 2009 Christmas Day terror attack on a Northwest Airlines by Al Queda. The next day, the White House spokesman Bill Burton told the media that Obama did not become aware of the terror attack until " about three hours after the plane landed." " About " could mean even longer than 3 hours. " Obama then held a conference call with Homeland Security and counter-terror adviser John Brennan and NSC chief of staff Denis McDonough. Well, well Brennan´s name again ... " Burton said that in a subsequent call, ( why not during the first phone call ??!! What time was the subsequent phone call ?? ) Obama “ instructed that all appropriate measures be taken to increase security for air travel.” When the country is being attacked, waiting hours to react is textbook Dereliction of Duty. Some major questions must be answered. Why is Obama always asleep or absent during times of national crisis ? Is he hung over or otherwise unable to perform the duties of POTUS and CINC ? Who at the White House assumes the responsibilities of the CINC without the 25th Amendment being invoked ?
I believe that barry has a drinking problem even bigger than his smoking problem and his inner circle knows better than to involve him in anything while he is incapacitated. There have been other instances where he has been "absent" without explanation. His ego would not allow him to accept treatment for such human weaknesses and you just don´t solve problems like that on your own. Besides suffering from terminal incompetence, I think he is a closet alcoholic.
What happened to the families? Mr Woods has not been interviewed for a long time. Mrs Smith sent an e-mail to Greta a few days ago, but generally they have been very quiet lately. And where are the 30+ survivors? Why are they not before Congress under oath? This may be so bad that neither party wants us to know what was going on there.
It is said Obama took no action on the night of the Benghazi attack. This is not true. He actively dismissed the pleas of Americans begging for help and passed the buck to his yellow-bellied subordinates, thus laying the foundation for a future claim of plausible deniability. Somebody needs to teach our CinC about American concepts like honor, courage, and that authority can be delegated, but responsibility cannot. Barry Marshall then proved his true psychopathology by calling it a day early... no doubt sleeping soundly in preparation for the REAL imperative of early morning travel for a fundraiser.
The foul taste of bile rises to my throat as once again Barry makes me puke!
All of you Ldotters are being too hard on Obama; after all, he had more important things to do at the time. Things like: • Demonizing Mitt Romney, • Figuring out how to keep those illegal foreign campaign contributions pouring in, • Coming up with alternative explanations of what he REALLY meant by, “You didn’t build that”, • Claiming Executive Privilege for all of the incriminating “Fast & Furious” documents, • Fixing an election, • Dreaming about the son – Trayvon – he never had, • Receiving his marching orders from Comrade ValJar, • Excluding Fox News from his conference calls with the MSM re: the latest propaganda strategy, • Preparing for the first Presidential Debate in Denver. Naahhh…. that’s too much like work – just keep on demonizing Mitt Romney, • Soaking up the unearned adulation and adoration of the liberal media, • Watching a compilation of his defenders explaining why everything that conservatives ever say about him is racist (that alone can account for at least 7 hours), • Planning his next vacation, • Hoping for a domestic massacre to give him the ‘crisis’ he needs to abolish the 2nd Amendment.
I learned in Vietnam 68-69 to trust my government. You folk just don´t believe. You got to believe. I mean LBJ loved me and my guys with Third Marines. He would never do anything to harm us. Obama will never hurt Americans,,,,he is a steadfast loyal American. And if you question that...well you just arn´t faithful. And Nixon, he was my favorite President...There were only 25k dead when he took office....and he kept it to only 30k more. He was a good man. You could trust ol Dick. I love LBJ, and Jack, and Nixon, and Carter, and the Bush´s, with Clinton and now our great commander Obama....God forbid that I should ever question my great 21st century American government.
I had just started writing a book on ´tinfoil hat´ conspiracies when this incident occurred. I kept weaving it into the story and as I did some research on it, I found a relatively unknown anonymous blogger who said on September 12th very plainly and simply what had happened.
At first I thought she was just a crazed whacko but her columns written in the following days have proven out to be about 90% accurate. The other 10%? The story is still being opened up. My book (The Tinfoil Hat Chronicles) is finished and is currently for sale as a pdf file on the website listed in my user name profile. Sadly enough, I am finding that what I fully intended to be nothing but a story about conspiracy theories is being proven to be much more than that every day.
Reply 48 - Posted by:
get er done, 2/8/2013 10:42:00 PM (No. 9166666)
What would the consequences be if a flag rank military officer acted, or failed to act, as Obama has in the Benghazi massacre? Accusations of dereliction of duty and treason? Court martial? Ruination of career?
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