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The Anti-Snobbery of ´Downton Abbey´
Wall Street Journal, by Raymond Zhong

Original Article

Posted By:FlyRight, 2/2/2013 4:29:37 PM

London - The Anti-Snobbery of ´Downton Abbey´ The creator of the hit television series on class and comfort in our increasingly uncertain times. Julian Fellowes, the creator and writer of "Downton Abbey," doesn´t take long to say what he thinks is the message of his smash television drama. "I think the—well, not even the subtext, the supertext—of ´Downton,´ " he says not five minutes after we sit down for coffee Monday morning at the Savoy Hotel in central London, "is that it is possible for us all to get on, that we don´t have to be ranged in class warfare permanently—that for the general public,

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: 2dogs, 2/2/2013 4:44:59 PM     (No. 9154755)

Spot on!


Reply 2 - Posted by: killerbee, 2/2/2013 5:00:42 PM     (No. 9154772)

FTA: "I think America has dealt with—I mean, this is simplistic and of course I don´t live in America—but the impression I get is that there is not a kind of obligation to dislike those who are better off or be frightened of those who are worse off . . . The Americans, I think, are better at seeing themselves as a kind of community—that the important thing is to be American."

That used to be. The media, entertainment industry, and politicians have created rifts for their own gain that may be insurmountable.

I wish we truly were as he describes us.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Dante, 2/2/2013 5:21:51 PM     (No. 9154792)

Yep, his vision of America isn´t reality. The left has created a permanent, ignorant underclass to whom they can lie and pander in order to maintain power.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Rafter, 2/2/2013 5:43:08 PM     (No. 9154822)

Shirley MacLaine is in this...
and her daughter Sachi Parker says she is/was a lousy mom.

Only interested in being a star...
and her husband of 28 years, Steve Parker, was a con man only interested in her money.

Sheesh! I thought she was a psychic genius.
Took 28 years to ditch her con man hubby.
Remind me not to watch this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Dante, 2/2/2013 5:47:28 PM     (No. 9154829)

Your choice, #4, but MacLaine has only a tiny role and is in maybe three episodes. I can´t stand her either, but it´s no reason to avoid an outstanding show.


Reply 6 - Posted by: ketchuplover, 2/2/2013 6:02:25 PM     (No. 9154852)

This is perhaps one of the best shows on tv now. My 81-y.o. mother and I´ve been hooked for a year, having watched the first season on Netflix, the second season on Hulu, and now the third season on PBS. There are so many compelling characters. One thing, however, we have to watch with the close captioning, because sometimes those Brits just cannot talk plain English! :-)


Reply 7 - Posted by: mabel normand, 2/2/2013 6:09:21 PM     (No. 9154861)

#4 And she delivers one of the best lines of the whole season, if you´re a conservative. But hey, you should totally skip that whole series because Dancing in the Light irritated you.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Susannah, 2/2/2013 6:16:00 PM     (No. 9154872)

I highly recommend Fellowes´ two novels, "Snobs" and "Past Imperfect," both of which are variations on the theme of class in Britain. "Snobs" may be the better of the two in terms of character and construction, but they´re both very worthwhile.


Reply 9 - Posted by: nonsense, 2/2/2013 6:19:31 PM     (No. 9154883)

I believe Americans are as Julian Fellowes describes. It is just our un-American Dear Leader who does not understand, or who does understand but has become fixated on class warfare as a weapon of distraction.


Reply 10 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 2/2/2013 6:28:35 PM     (No. 9154895)

I love Downton Abbey and have watched it since the beginning. There are many characters from different classes and many points of view are represented. Each has frustrations and problems caused by cultural pressures and world changing events. I don´t know about it being "anti snobbery". Grandmother Cawley has a pretty rigid sense of class.


Reply 11 - Posted by: FunnyGirl, 2/2/2013 6:32:10 PM     (No. 9154901)

I love the show - superb writing and acting. We are a divided country and we can blame it all on the left or we can do our part to reverse it. The first step would be to stop using divisive terms like "low information voters", "makers & takers",etc. It starts with us.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Pearson365, 2/2/2013 6:35:53 PM     (No. 9154906)

To # 9, Downton Abbey is the perfect example of why Romney was correct in ending the taxpayer subsidies. DA is a BBC production, and other than broadcasting series, PBS has zero to do with show. Which begs question, what in the world is PBS doing with our money?


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: trombo, 2/2/2013 6:45:15 PM     (No. 9154911)

Absolutely the best show on TV. The ensemble cast is amazing, the writing is superb, the sets and costumes are just beautiful. Last week´s episode was the best hour of TV I have seen in years. I recommend to all of you that you watch it.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 2/2/2013 7:10:36 PM     (No. 9154941)

Shirley McLain was awful - - simply dreadful.

I´ve always admired her work - - especially the roles she played on Planet Earth - - but I think it´s past time for her to retire to her home on Asteroid Xygnot - - and live out her years there.


Reply 15 - Posted by: WAN2, 2/2/2013 7:14:17 PM     (No. 9154947)

The cars, sets, scenery and clothes are jim-dandy. Now if only I liked soap operas.


Reply 16 - Posted by: masscon, 2/2/2013 7:49:47 PM     (No. 9154978)

It´s soap opera all right. Can´t stand the upstairs crowd. Especially the parents. Cora´s maiden name is Levin? She´s Jewish? Give me a break.


Reply 17 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 2/2/2013 8:32:54 PM     (No. 9155021)

Part of the appeal to me is that I would love to live like the upper class did in England between the wars. They had servants, beautiful homes, did nothing but entertain and be entertained. What´s not to like.

Now being a scullery maid might not be so peachy....


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 2/2/2013 8:43:57 PM     (No. 9155031)

#9 just wanted an excuse to knock Romney, #13.


Reply 19 - Posted by: jorgecito, 2/2/2013 8:58:23 PM     (No. 9155038)

Article is interesting, but agree with #16:
Downton Abbey is soap opera schlock.

Pretty costumes and cars; dreadful acting and writing.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Penney, 2/2/2013 9:17:22 PM     (No. 9155050)

We haven´t seem it but look forward to checking it out on Netflix. Successful dramas do NOT need tax-funded pbs/npr to showcase them.

Defund the dems´ ´public´ broadcasting!


Reply 21 - Posted by: smcchk, 2/2/2013 10:42:03 PM     (No. 9155113)

The best part of Downton Abbey is that the characters are realistic. The staff aren´t all always-wise, downtrodden victims. The family aren´t always arrogant snobs. At one political rally, it´s the socialists who bring in some thugs to cause trouble. The characters are very affecting and the scenery and sets are fantastic!


Reply 22 - Posted by: FlyRight, 2/3/2013 7:32:35 AM     (No. 9155367)

Read a little history. Many American Jewish millionaires married their daughters to English aristocracy looking for what they felt was social clout. There are Jews throughout the best family in England to this day. Anyone remember Churchill´s mother, Jennie Jerome from Brooklyn? And the character´s name was Levinson.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/3/2013 7:48:53 AM     (No. 9155384)

I´m telling you, Brendon Coyle (John Bates) and Eric Bolling (Fox The Five) were separated at birth.

I´m a big Downton Abbey fan, as is my fifteen-year-old granddaughter. So, the appeal is wide.


Reply 24 - Posted by: Namma, 2/3/2013 8:10:13 AM     (No. 9155413)

Many daughters of the new found rich in America married into English society,taking millions of American dollars with them. This helped the English Lords and Dukes to keep their castle like homes from ruin. Marshall Fields daughter Ethel, became a Countess, Consuelo Vanderbilt became the Duchess of Marlborough..It was a way to get a title and be in high society..Amerians did not have titles and the only way to get one was to marry into English society.
What brought the English high society down was the opening of trade between countries..the Lords who had the serfs working the land no longer grew their own food, they could buy imported products cheaper. The one product that really caused the downfall of the lords and dukes was American Wheat.
Most servants were not treated as nicely as Downton Abbey protrays...the servants were there to take care of the the Dukes and Duchess. Most of their work was done before the house woke so they were not seen by the Lord and Lady of the manor...
I love this show...and wait all year for the next 6 segments....


Reply 25 - Posted by: chillijilli, 2/3/2013 8:15:46 AM     (No. 9155420)

As a former expat, I´ve always said that I´m never as aware of how American I am until I´m around a Brit. This series validates my feelings. It may be soapy, but isn´t it interesting to see similar character arcs developing within the aristocracy and within the staff?
Shirley MacLain couldn´t hold a candle to Maggie Smith. Her script was mostly 2-word sentences, and she looked like a clown. Hopefully, an excuse to write her out of further episodes will be forthcoming, to save her any more embarrassment.


Reply 26 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 2/3/2013 8:18:07 AM     (No. 9155424)

You can purchase all of Season 3 on Amazon. Snowing here in Kentucky and I am watching it...to avoid Super Bowl idiocy...not the game, just the all-day-pre-game nonsense.

Growing weary with the Bates in prison thread.


Reply 27 - Posted by: M2, 2/3/2013 8:24:03 AM     (No. 9155431)

Fabulous series. The third season is now available on DVD in stores, which we just took advantage of.

Superb acting and a window into England´s royalty mindset and class-divisions at the time. I doubt much has changed among the Brits, but a lot has changed here in America regarding class differences.

Many would insist there are no class differences here but that is no longer true, thanks in large part to the Left´s demonization of "the rich" against "the disenfranchised."

While in Downton Abbey´s structure there is dignity in work even at the "lowest" levels of society, in America, there is no dignity in work at all, except for the few remaining Americans who find honor in working.

For L.Dotters not familiar with the show, do try watching from the beginning. Maggie Smith, as always, steals every scene just with a lift of an eyebrow.

This season´s addition of Shirley MacLaine is a mystery to me. She´s abyssmal and too many plastic surgeries have taken their toll. Meowwww....


Reply 28 - Posted by: masscon, 2/3/2013 8:24:58 AM     (No. 9155433)

Elizabeth McGovern Jewish? But the old man is anti-Catholic.


Reply 29 - Posted by: reformationmama, 2/3/2013 8:26:33 AM     (No. 9155434)

Have been a fan of the show before the first episode. We most certainly have snobs in America as shown by our very one Snob-in-Chief who has made it a habit of seeing how many first person pronouns he can use in his blathering pronouncements.


Reply 30 - Posted by: Echohawk, 2/3/2013 8:36:48 AM     (No. 9155448)

Good point, #22. Fellows turns our expectations inside out. Yes, there are the wretched excesses of the evil rich, but there are plenty of evil poor in this series as well. It´s the evil poor who do the most damage.
I really like the way Cora (the American) looks at the class/religion struggle in DA and shakes her head in bewilderment. Fellows is right--Americans don´t care about such things.
Obama has used class and race to gain power. He is the aberration, the anti-American.


Reply 31 - Posted by: Flyball dogs, 2/3/2013 8:48:32 AM     (No. 9155473)

Love the show! My 87 (tomorrow) yr old mother enjoys, too, although the words are a bit mushy sometimes. Bought seasons 1 and 2 and will probably buy no. 3 soon.
I was reading about plot lines for no. 4, and they may get racier (more gay storylines for instance). I recognize that the human condition has not really changed since the Garden, so I do hope Julian does not bow to the PC crowd. I have already detected some phrases and words that seem a little more suited to today.

But love love love the show. I may go buy a hat!!


Reply 32 - Posted by: bubby, 2/3/2013 8:49:56 AM     (No. 9155479)

I enjoy the show and just started watching it recently. My grandfather left England and migrated to Canada after fighting in WWI to get away from the very class system portrayed in the show. That class in England inherited enormous wealth and landholdings by birthright. I believe we are headed in that direction because the Democrats are making it impossible to create new wealth since most of it will be taken in taxes. The old wealth held mostly by leftists will continue to be passed along. We are all headed to become servants of the Government I´m afraid.


Reply 33 - Posted by: ZurichMike, 2/3/2013 9:00:47 AM     (No. 9155513)

Agree that the costumes and set-shots are gorgeous. The plot themes are borrowed badly from any number of works by Jane Austen, Evelyn Waugh, Anthony Trollope, Oscar Wilde, Henry James, and Edith Wharton, to name a few. If you´ve seen "Upstairs Downstairs" or "Brideshead Revisited" you can tell how derivative and water-downed this series is. A few clever lines does not make for world-class TV, but it does make for good entertainment.

With a series that includes about 16 characters, at best you get just a couple of clever lines per character, but no real character development; every character is a caricature: the ditzy American wife with money, the dashing heir to the family estate, the scheming and ugly maid, the stern butler with the deep voice.

But its appeal is that the speed and frequency of changes scenery and clever bon-mots matches perfectly the speed and frequency needs of a generation that lives for sight-bites, sound-bites, mobile phone photos, and text messages.

Having said all that, I would sell my grandmother to live in the library of Downton Abbey!


Reply 34 - Posted by: lizzee1, 2/3/2013 9:03:11 AM     (No. 9155516)

I am watching ´´Upstairs Downstairs´´ for the first time, on Netflix, and Downton Abbey is somewhat of a clone. The same things occur,there are similar characters..even down to a cook that screams at the scullery maids.I like them both, but this has been done before.


Reply 35 - Posted by: msjena, 2/3/2013 9:06:55 AM     (No. 9155522)

#17--Cora is based on a real person, who was half-Jewish. She was the daughter of Levi Leitner, who founded Marshall Fields.


Reply 36 - Posted by: kanphil, 2/3/2013 9:25:29 AM     (No. 9155550)

When my BH first brought this to my attention,I dismissed it as just another chick flick. But, I am a sucker for anything with Maggie Smith in it, so I sat down and watched one episode all the way through. Now, I´m hooked. Don´t want to miss a minute of it. As to PBS, they are not necessary. DA would have found commercial sponsors on one of the networks. The network would have been far better off sponsoring DA than the drivel they have on now.


Reply 37 - Posted by: smcchk, 2/3/2013 9:29:23 AM     (No. 9155552)

Please forgive the double post but #28 mentioned something that we have so obviously lost in our "developed" world and that is the dignity of work. The sense of honor and the standards of conduct down to the lowest kitchen maid are sadly gone from today´s world. And one tip, use subtitles, if you have them, as British speak can be hard to understand.


Reply 38 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 2/3/2013 9:40:16 AM     (No. 9155571)

I never thought of America as having a class system until I began observing politics and saw the straight line connecting the Ivy League law schools to our three branches of government.
This is why our elected politicians look down their nose at the voter. They argue on the floor of Congress for the cameras, but enjoy drinks together at the club afterwards. We ARE the ignorant masses for continuing to send them back.


Reply 39 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 2/3/2013 9:43:47 AM     (No. 9155585)

Personally, I have developed a crush on the gentle ´´Carson´´ aka Jim Carter.

Didn´t you just love this quote FTA? ´´That is written because they have to say something,´´ Lord Fellowes says of his detractors in the British press. ´´And in this country, you have to say something nasty.´´


Reply 40 - Posted by: farmwife, 2/3/2013 9:57:14 AM     (No. 9155607)

Love the series, love Maggie Smith.


Reply 41 - Posted by: locomotivebreath1901, 2/3/2013 10:00:32 AM     (No. 9155612)

I´ve never understood why elite, lavish and erudite productions about elite, lavish and erudite people amid elite, lavish and erudite backdrops require the taxpayer subsidized efforts of PBS.


Reply 42 - Posted by: Tianne, 2/3/2013 11:00:05 AM     (No. 9155705)

Downton Abbey is television at its best. With the exception of the very few, the characters of the series treat one another with graciousness, courtesy, and respect and the characters that don’t display those qualities are scorned by the others - sometimes subtly but effectively with only the lift of an eyebrow. Impeccable manners and dignified and honorable behaviors are absolutely expected of the characters at all times. One character, Matthew, has struggles with an issue that results in painful soul-searching and self-criticism – he holds himself to stern self-examination, the concept of which is sadly unfamiliar to many modern viewers. I love the graceful decorum and civility of the characters of the program and think that many of us miss and yearn for the virtues displayed - perhaps that is why the production is so beloved.


Reply 43 - Posted by: mabeldog, 2/3/2013 11:00:36 AM     (No. 9155707)

#9 Actually it´s an ITV production, not the Beeb


Reply 44 - Posted by: Arby, 2/3/2013 11:05:44 AM     (No. 9155714)

Nice piece. Informative and persuasive.


Reply 45 - Posted by: RancherJack, 2/3/2013 11:05:52 AM     (No. 9155715)

Not a fan.


Reply 46 - Posted by: starboard, 2/3/2013 11:14:42 AM     (No. 9155725)

Downton Abbey gives us a delightful glimpse into life from a past culture. This series is so well produced, when I watch it, I feel Scotty has beamed me up and become totally transported back in time. What a respite and a treat from the present state of affairs we now have.
Thank you Julian Fellowes. Five stars.


Reply 47 - Posted by: AutumnJoy, 2/3/2013 11:42:54 AM     (No. 9155763)

I love DA and have seen every episode. The rumor is that three characters die this season. Last Sunday´s death scene had me absolutely riveted to the tv. Even now I see that scene in slow motion in my mind. Heartbreaking.


Reply 48 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 2/3/2013 12:06:21 PM     (No. 9155803)

My wife and daughter love this show. I´m indifferent to it. I read the WSJ article yesterday and found it interesting that Fellowes is himself a Lord. The lord and lady of Downton Abbey are portrayed as a couple of twits, as is the dowager countess. They have no marketable skills, and aren´t smart enough to take care of their own affairs. They have valets, as they can´t seem to keep track of their own clothing or get dressed without help. The lord´s mismanagement of the estate and its money bring it nearly to ruin, saved only by other people´s money earned through hard work and careful investment. In the last episode, Lord Grantham´s intransigency led to the death of his youngest daughter. I have a feeling it will be the lord´s new son-in-law who ends up saving everyone´s bacon so they can continue with their meaningless lives, being waited on hand and foot.


Reply 49 - Posted by: absalom, 2/3/2013 12:35:34 PM     (No. 9155862)

#25. A strong demurral. The Great War caused the destruction of the English upper class and the British Empire. Britain, our major trading partner since 1783, became the wealthiest nation on earth because of trade. Sir Noel Coward´s Three Act Play ´Cavalcade´; from which the DA soap opera is derived; definitively explores this theme.


Reply 50 - Posted by: cgood, 2/3/2013 12:44:20 PM     (No. 9155874)

I just started watching this series last weekend and am hooked. I´m midway through the 2nd season (watched the first on Netflix and found the second on Amazon). I like the complexity of the characters and appreciate that the family members are not portrayed as one-dimensional, evil rich folks and the servants are not all virtuous poor people. Even the villains surprise you now and then with their humanity.


Reply 51 - Posted by: DanvilleBill, 2/3/2013 1:44:41 PM     (No. 9155953)

To quote Flounder, today is going to be GREAT!

1) The Super Bowl with the GREAT 49ers playing the pathetic Ravens.

2) The Super Bowl post game where the 49ers GREAT Jim Harbaugh accepts the Lombardi Trophy after trouncing brother John´s pathetic Ravens.

3) And later on, Downton Abbey, a GREAT TV production and possibly the GREATEST costume dama ever put on TV.

One other thought, if you like DA I suggest you get a copy of Follett´s "Fall of Giants" which is set in England over the same time frame with similar class-based themes, WWI action, etc. A GREAT read.


Reply 52 - Posted by: 4LadyK, 2/3/2013 1:49:56 PM     (No. 9155965)

Love the series for what it is: an engaging soap opera. And 39 gets it.


Reply 53 - Posted by: tnorling, 2/3/2013 2:25:47 PM     (No. 9156023)

Libs hate it because it doesn´t fit into their narrative. There are no victims needing state support.


Reply 54 - Posted by: Mike6, 2/3/2013 2:41:13 PM     (No. 9156046)

You are correct that Obama does not understand Americans freedom and democracy. He prefers to bypass Congress and bomb Libya and throw Mubarek and Ghaddafi under the bus, who were both dictators but American friends.
Low information voters do not understand that Obama hates America because he is a Kenyan marxist and probably a muslim. I bet that Barry Soetero was a naturalized American Citizen and Barack Obama does not exist legally except for a phony SS#, from 1891 that once belonged to a man now dead.
If Republicans were smart, they would be yelling this information about the bogus Obama SS# from every roof top loud and clear until every low information voter had heard it.


Reply 55 - Posted by: flaming sword, 2/3/2013 2:52:39 PM     (No. 9156059)

I love the show.Love it.

For those of you who don´t have Netflix like me, but are Amazon Prime members, do you know all episodes are available free?
I had been an Amazon Prime member for at least a year before I realized there were hundred if not thousands of free movies and TV shows available to me.
I renewed the second year because it paid for itself in free shipping within 3 or 4 months. Before I realized it had free video goodies.


Reply 56 - Posted by: flaming sword, 2/3/2013 2:57:30 PM     (No. 9156067)

I needed a comma there. I don´t have Netflix.

For those of you who don´t have Netflix, like me,


Reply 57 - Posted by: VAfreedomluver, 2/3/2013 3:12:31 PM     (No. 9156084)

My wife and I are hooked on Downton Abbey. We´re both history buffs and Anglophiles. While it´s true that the series probably treats the upstairs/downstairs divide as more genteel than it usually was, it´s nice to see a series such as this where the characters all have the feel and motives of real people, rather than caricatures.

One has to understand that the term "class" in English parlance did not refer to economic status, but to social status. One could be poor and yet still "upper class", as we´ve seen on Downton Abbey. One´s social standing was determined from birth and was almost totally fixed until the day you died. In America, we usually refer to the upper-class as the rich, but our classes are quite fluid compared to the English social classes. In fact, in America it´s more of a "gradient" than a system with sharply drawn lines between classes.

A few very rich merchants and captains of industry were able to buy their way into the English aristocracy in those days, but they were typically held apart from the "true" aristocracy of the blooded.


Reply 58 - Posted by: belwhatter, 2/3/2013 4:29:17 PM     (No. 9156183)

It is good to hear heartwarming affection for Downton Abbey and how it is portraying the march of change through the 20th century. The very fact that we have taken these characters to heart speaks of the skills of Fellowes´ writing, the director and the actors. Enormous attention is paid to detail. For those that decry it´s social statements,calm down, it is after all entertainment and in these dreary days of Obamanomics it is wonderful to be transported on Sunday evenings to another world and even so,to see the eternal situations of the human condition play out.


Reply 59 - Posted by: John318, 2/3/2013 5:22:11 PM     (No. 9156260)

Voyeurism reigns supreme in America. Get a life all those of you that are Hooked.


Reply 60 - Posted by: Pinons, 2/3/2013 6:30:07 PM     (No. 9156336)

#9, you don´t get it! All those thousand of "tiny" subsidies add up to BIG WASTE.

#60, I´m sure you are so straight laced?


Reply 61 - Posted by: flaming sword, 2/3/2013 6:40:25 PM     (No. 9156344)

I´ll bow to the superior intellect of #60.
Tonight I will watch BET, MTV and the Chicago news channel with their daily murder report.


Reply 62 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/3/2013 7:03:46 PM     (No. 9156369)

The BBC Masterpiece Theater series, and most other BBC special productions compared to the American entertainment industry can be described very succinctly: class versus crass.


Reply 63 - Posted by: seminolesecure, 2/3/2013 7:58:45 PM     (No. 9156407)

I love ths show and am hooked, but I do think Mr. Fellows has bowed to the criticism, as much as he claims not to have. The 2nd and 3rd seasons have creeping and annoying PC stuff, the characters are more shallow, i.e. the ones with the social standing have become charicatures. They were so much more likable and real in the first episode.


Reply 64 - Posted by: geminale, 2/3/2013 10:24:35 PM     (No. 9156623)

Love DA, or Dog´s Bum Abbey, as Dan Stevens calls it. Greatest period drama I´ve seen, and I´ve seen many. Thanks to l.com for this article.


Reply 65 - Posted by: cat2, 2/4/2013 12:32:35 AM     (No. 9156749)

Oh, just relax and enjoy the show. Follow the characters´ personal dramas and forget pondering the social justice messages. Almost all of theatuh and literature is trying to propagandize you. You outfox the authors if you ignore all of that and just keep your tissue box handy and view it as a soap opera.



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The FBI interviewed former CIA director David Petraeus at his home Friday, USA Today reported. The retired Army general was quizzed as part of an ongoing investigation into whether he provided classified information to his biographer — and mistress — Paula Broadwell. The FBI questioned Petraeus part of an ongoing investigation into whether he provided classified information to his biographer — and mistress — Paula Broadwell. The FBI questioned Petraeus part of an ongoing investigation into whether he provided classified information to his biographer — and mistress — Paula Broadwell.

Global Warming: Was It Just
A Beautiful Dream After All?
Forbes, by Harry Binswanger    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 4/5/2013 7:12:52 AM     Post Reply
Like most of you, I yearn for shorter winters, more shirt-sleeve weather, less lashing from frigid winds. As a confirmed New Yorker, I’m not willing to do what millions have done: move to the sunbelt. I want warmer weather here in the Big City.But I’ve grown old waiting for the promised global warming. I was 35 when predictions of a looming ice age were supplanted by warmmongering. Now I’m 68, and there’s still no sign of warmer weather. It’s enough to make one doubt the “settled science” of the government-funded doom-sayers.

Obama Sequesters Himself
to Prove the Wrong Point
The Atlantic, by Philip Bump    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 4/3/2013 5:18:30 PM     Post Reply
In a measure of solidarity with those affected by the budget-slashing government sequestration, President Obama is giving up 5 percent of his salary for rest of the year, which is almost as admirable and sensible as a mansion-owner shutting off his marble fountains during a drought.This is not to imply that the president shouldn´t demonstrate some unity with those who´ve been furloughed or lost work because of the blind slashing the sequestration prompted. People like Jeff Maryak, profiled by BuzzFeed, who is considering re-enlisting to make ends meet after a 27 percent pay cut.

Military buildup in China near North Korean
border continues as tanks, armored vehicles spotted
Washington Free Beacon, by Bill Gertz    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 4/3/2013 6:44:35 AM     Post Reply
China continued moving tanks and armored vehicles and flying flights near North Korea this week as part of a military buildup in the northeastern part of the country that U.S. officials say is related to the crisis with North Korea.The Obama administration, meanwhile, sought to play down the Chinese military buildup along the border with Beijing’s fraternal communist ally despite the growing danger of conflict following unprecedented threats by Pyongyang to attack the United States and South Korea with nuclear weapons.

President Obama´s image machine:
Controlling the narrative
while limiting media access
Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 4/1/2013 2:45:58 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — A photo of the Obamas hugging that was released on Election Day 2012 has become the world´s most popular tweet on Twitter. A dressed-up version of Barack Obama´s State of the Union speech, packed with charts and graphs, is huge on YouTube. A playful picture of the president cavorting with a 3-year-old in a Spiderman costume is a favorite online. It´s all courtesy of the Obama image machine, serving up a stream of words, images and videos that invariably cast the president as commanding,compassionate and on the ball. In this world, Obama's family is always photogenic, first dog Bo is always well-behaved and the vegetables in the South Lawn kitchen garden always seem succulent.

MTV’s ‘Buckwild’ star Shain
Gandee, 21,found dead
after being reported missing
Washington Post, by Lisa de Moraes    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 4/1/2013 2:33:01 PM     Post Reply
MTV’s “Buckwild” has its first cast death. Shain Gandee was among three men found dead in a vehicle Monday in the Sissonville area of West Virginia — about 31 hours after he and his uncle, David, had been reported missing. David, 48, and Shain, 21, told people they were going four-wheeling in Shain’s 1984 Ford Bronco, at about 3 a.m. Sunday at Larry’s Bar in Sissonville, the Kanawha County Sheriff’s Department reported Monday morning. The third man found dead in the vehicle who has not yet been identified, according to press reports.

Dionne Warwick: dizzying
downfall of a bankrupt diva
The Telegraph (UK), by Jacqui Goddard    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 3/31/2013 7:22:03 AM     Post Reply
Her name is among the brightest in recording industry history, her songs providing the soundtrack for a generation and earning her a place as one of the most successful hit-makers of all time. After more than five decades of music-making that won her five Grammy awards, more than 60 charted singles and global album sales totalling more than 100 million copies, Dionne Warwick might have been assumed to have earned herself a comfortable retirement.

Dream season ends
for Florida Gulf Coast
ESPN.com, by Jason King    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 3/30/2013 8:01:50 AM     Post Reply
ARLINGTON, Texas -- At 11:46 p.m. CT on Friday at Cowboys Stadium, a group of Florida fans rose from their seats and began a rather sobering chant. “Al-most mid-night!,” they yelled. “Al-most mid-night!” Standing on the nearby court, Florida Gulf Coast’s players could only hang their heads. The clock was about to strike 12 on one of the better Cinderella stories in NCAA tournament history. The first No. 15 seed ever to advance to the Sweet 16 finally came off its cloud in a 62-50 loss to Florida. “We made history,” guard Brett Comer said.

Ashley Judd is not running for Senate
Washington Post, by Chris Cillizza    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 3/27/2013 5:23:17 PM     Post Reply
Update: Ashley Judd has announced via Twitter that she will not run for Senate. “After serious and thorough contemplation, I realize that my responsibilities & energy at this time need to be focused on my family,” she wrote. Actress Ashley Judd has decided not to pursue a bid for the Kentucky Senate race, according to two sources familiar with her decision.A source close to Judd said that Secretary of State Allison Lundergan Grimes’ interest in potential race made the decision not to run easier. “The timing just wasn’t right,” said the source.



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We are living in a dying country (Thread 2)
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Rushlimbaugh.com, by Rush Limbaugh    Original Article
Posted By: LComStaff- 4/7/2013 6:49:54 AM     Post Reply
This is the second thread of an article posted yesterday which can be found here:http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=730032

McCain: ´I don´t understand´
GOP filibuster on guns

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Politico, by Jennifer Epstein    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/7/2013 12:18:14 PM     Post Reply
Sen. John McCain says he doesn´t understand the threats from some of his Republican colleagues to filibuster a bill on background checks to buy guns. "I don´t understand it," the Arizona Republican said on Sunday of the threat coming from Sen. Rand Paul,Sen. Ted Cruz, Sen. Mike Lee and nine other Republicans. "The purpose of the United States Senate is to debate and to vote and to let the people know where we stand.” "What are we afraid of? ... If this issue is as important as we all think it is, why not take ... it up and debate?"

´My bangs are getting
a little irritating´: Michelle
Obama admits she already regrets
her high-maintenance hairdo

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Daily Mail (UK), by Margot Peppers    Original Article
Posted By: pineledger- 4/7/2013 7:43:42 AM     Post Reply
Michelle Obama has admitted that she is already tired of the bangs she first sported in January. The First Lady said in an interview with Entertainment Tonight: ´Bangs are a day-by-day proposition. They´re starting to grow out, get a little irritating.´ Still, she hasn´t let her hairdo woes get her down. ´It´s okay,´ she said after her initial complaint. ´We´ll be good.´ The first indication that her hairstyle was becoming a burden came about last weekend, when Malia, 14, was spotted adjusting her mother´s hair during the White House Easter Egg Roll.

Why Obama´s ´Best-Looking Attorney
General´ Comment Was a Gaffe

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The Atlantic, by Garance Franke-Ruta    Original Article
Posted By: Oblio- 4/6/2013 6:51:15 AM     Post Reply
President Obama´s biggest gaffe yesterday when speaking of California Attorney General Kamala Harris was not in flirtatiously complimenting her as "the best-looking attorney general," but in introducing an observation from the system of beauty into a forum that was about the system of power.What´s that, you say? Irin Carmon does a great job in Salon in laying out the bounds of propriety for when it´s appropriate to talk about a woman´s looks as a general matter. But I´ve long felt we lack a solid theoretical underpinning for easily discussing these issues, and why precisely it is that

Christians, here´s why we´re
losing our religion

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Fox News, by Craig Groeschel    Original Article
Posted By: STLstudent- 4/7/2013 5:13:55 PM     Post Reply
Recent research indicates that the number of people who do not consider themselves a part of an organized religion is steadily on the rise. Interestingly enough, though the number of those religiously unaffiliated is increasing, there is little to no trend in the number of those who express atheist or agnostic beliefs. People aren’t saying they don’t believe in God. They’re saying they don’t believe in religion. They are not rejecting Christ. They are rejecting the church. This begs the question, “Why are we losing our religion?”

Broadcasters worry
about ´Zero TV´ homes

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Associated Press, by Ryan Nakashima    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 4/7/2013 2:43:40 PM     Post Reply
Los Angeles — Some people have had it with TV. They´ve had enough of the 100-plus channel universe. They don´t like timing their lives around network show schedules. They´re tired of $100-plus monthly bills. A growing number of them have stopped paying for cable and satellite TV service, and don´t even use an antenna to get free signals over the air. (Snip) Last month, the Nielsen Co. started labeling people in this group "Zero TV" households, because they fall outside the traditional definition of a TV home. There are 5 million of these residences in the U.S., up from

Mother Of Slain Benghazi
Officer To Sean Hannity:
‘They Want Me To Shut Up’

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Mediaite, by A.J. Delgado    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/7/2013 5:00:16 AM     Post Reply
On Friday, Sean Hannity brought Pat Smith, mother of the late Sean Smith, on his radio program. The 34-year-old information management officer was one of four Americans murdered in the Benghazi embassy attack on September 11, 2012. In the chilling interview, a distraught Ms. Smith, in tears, pleaded for answers and spoke of the efforts to silence her. Ms. Smith first relayed how her son, prior to the attack, requested additional security in advance and warned the State Department: He did tell them, ahead of time, he typed it into his little typewriter over there,

Hillary Clinton Would Not
´Clear the Field´ for 2016

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New Republic, by Tod Lindberg    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/6/2013 5:22:36 AM     Post Reply
No one is more preoccupied these days with Hillary Clinton´s 2016 plans than the Beltway political class—not even the former presidential candidate herself. To hear some tell it, her decision will be dispositive for all other Democrats thinking of entering the race. And pundits and reporters aren´t the only ones positing the "The Hillary Factor": No less than the House Democratic whip, Steny Hoyer, told BuzzFeed, “I don´t know that anybody would run against Hillary…. If she runs, she clears the field.” It´s an understandable conclusion, given Clinton´s stature in the Democratic Party and her 70 percent

Obama critic apologizes for
his ´poorly chosen words´
on gay marriage

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The Hill [Washington DC], by Alexandra Jaffe    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/6/2013 12:18:19 PM     Post Reply
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson, considered by some to be a potential Republican contender for president, apologized to Johns Hopkins University for the "poorly chosen words" he used in expressing his opposition to gay marriage last month.“I am sorry for any embarrassment this has caused,” Carson said in the letter, reported in New York Magazine.(Snip) "Although I do believe marriage is between a man and a woman, there are much less offensive ways to make that point. I hope all will look at a lifetime of service over some poorly chosen words.” Carson will remain as commencement speaker at Johns Hopkins,

Vanishing workforce
weighs on growth

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Washington Post, by Jim Tankersley    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/6/2013 11:28:59 PM     Post Reply
Put out an all-points bulletin: Millions of Americans have gone missing from the workforce. Every month that those would-be workers are gone raises the odds that they might never come back, dimming the prospects for future economic growth. The vanishing trend is more than a decade old, but it accelerated during the Great Recession. Throughout 2012, economists held out hope that it had stopped. But then came Friday’s jobs report, and hopes were dashed. The Labor Department reported that the U.S. labor force — everyone who has a job or is looking for one — shrank

The Secrets of Princeton
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New York Times, by Ross Douthat    Original Article
Posted By: Oblio- 4/7/2013 8:08:09 AM     Post Reply
Susan Patton, the Princeton alumna who became famous for her letter urging Ivy League women to use their college years to find a mate, has been denounced as a traitor to feminism, to coeducation, to the university ideal. But really she’s something much more interesting: a traitor to her class. Her betrayal consists of being gauche enough to acknowledge publicly a truth that everyone who’s come up through Ivy League culture knows intuitively —

Beyonce, Jay-Z celebrate 5th
anniversary in Havana, Cuba

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Los Angeles Times, by Nardine Saad    Original Article
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Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for


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