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ObamaCare´s Broken Promises
Wall Street Journal, by Daniel P. Kessler

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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/1/2013 6:06:07 AM

As the federal government moves forward to implement President Obama´s Affordable Care Act, the Department of Health and Human Services is slated to spend millions of dollars promoting the unpopular legislation. In the face of this publicity blitz, it is worth remembering that the law was originally sold largely on four grounds—all of which have become increasingly implausible. • Lower health-care costs. One key talking point for ObamaCare was that it would reduce the cost of insurance, especially for non-group insurance. The president, citing the work of several health-policy experts, claimed that improved care coordination, investments in information technology,


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Reply 1 - Posted by: alloysteel, 2/1/2013 6:33:45 AM     (No. 9151823)

The "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2011" is surely one of the most misnamed pieces of legislation ever to become law. The only part of that title that is anywhere near reality is the date "2011". And even that is suspect, as various versions of this monstrosity have been produced since probably the time of the Truman Administration. Written in more or less its present form, it has been lying in a desk drawer until the opportune time to pull it out came along.

No other part of that title even applies.

Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 2/1/2013 6:48:46 AM     (No. 9151834)

The promises were only promises to people foolish enough to believe anything this compulsive liar has to say. We knew it would be a debacle and that´s why he pushed it off until after he got re elected.

If the cheapest family policy is 20 grand,i can see millions bailing out,paying the fine and taking chances on their health.

Think about it,20 grand can pay for a hell of a lot of office visits with some surgical procedures thrown in.

How many minority families will fork over 20 grand and they´re 29% of the population.

There´s a vague clause in obamacare that says you don´t have to pay if you´ve been some sort of victim of historical oppression.




Reply 3 - Posted by: edgar, 2/1/2013 7:28:15 AM     (No. 9151877)

So should we rename it the "Patently False and Unaffordable Care Act of 2011?"

Reply 4 - Posted by: Crosscut, 2/1/2013 7:29:40 AM     (No. 9151878)

This Democrat garbage legislation will collapse all on it´s own. It reflects the stupidity and incompetence of the Democrat Party. It is nothing but a power grab and advancement of Democrat´s socialist agenda.

Reply 5 - Posted by: Thirstyjack, 2/1/2013 7:56:13 AM     (No. 9151915)

I feel sick.

Reply 6 - Posted by: RCFlyer98, 2/1/2013 8:03:33 AM     (No. 9151927)

I would like to say to those who voted for the ones who foisted this Obamanation up on us, good luck. It serves you right. Problem is, they´re taking us with them down this primrose path.

Reply 7 - Posted by: Newtsche, 2/1/2013 8:07:41 AM     (No. 9151933)

The assumption of "shared responsibility" is that misery enjoys company.




Reply 8 - Posted by: bpl40, 2/1/2013 8:14:52 AM     (No. 9151949)

Many conservatives and posters here seem to be drawing grim satisfaction at the problems and fiasco caused by 0bamacare. A sort of Schadenfreude if you will.
Unfortunately this might be part of the Liberals´ long standing plan. The collapse of the health care system due to chaos in the supporting insurance markets is exactly what they hope to use to bring on the real 0bamacare.
A single payer system driving a centrally run national health care. Zippy promised that to the holdouts during the ACA 2011 sausage making, saying it was just a step on the way. Extricating the country skillfully from this will be tricky. If the Republicans had a fraction of the political skills it will require we would have a Republican President and Senate today.

Reply 9 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 2/1/2013 8:42:00 AM     (No. 9152011)

The fundamental problem is the intervention of government into matters that are best left to the private marketplace. Government always intervenes with the best intentions, but the law of unintended consequences always joins the party. Every solution begets another problem ad nauseum, infinitum. Those who posit that healthcare is a right fail to appreciate that vigor is not a universal baseline. Like it or not, some people can commit every herescy with regards to their health (smoke, drink, pursue reckless pleasures of the flesh) and somehow live to a ripe old age and die peacefully in their bed. And others, can´t seem to make it to age 18 before they are engaged in a battle for their very existance against a disease that show no discretion in its selection of victims nor mercy to those so afflicted.

Government is the establishment of process for the administration of process. No bureaucrat will ever willingly cut his budget, streamline his processes, or reduce his staff. That admonition applies to Congress as well. The only way that I see out of this is the 28th Amendment that is floating through social media.

Until Congress is held accountable to its own actions, and until it is forced to provide comparable benefit to the citizens that it awards itself, our society and culture will continue its decent on a double helix of despair and depredation.

Reply 10 - Posted by: stryker714, 2/1/2013 8:43:47 AM     (No. 9152014)

Right #3. University of Georgia has UGA, the bulldog, Obama has UCA; slightly different spelling but their similarity is they are both dogs however UGA is friendly.

Obama´s tendency to only make C´s or D´s at best in college, as evidenced/supported by having his records sealed, is coming home to roost as his little healthcare project flies to pieces. It couldn´t happen to a nicer guy. /s off.

Reply 11 - Posted by: chance_232, 2/1/2013 8:57:45 AM     (No. 9152042)

ObamaCare was never intended to lower healthcare, it was never intended to provide more medical coverage and it was never intended to reduce the deficit.

ObamaCare sets the table for increasing costs across the board and blowing up the system. Democrats will then ride in to save the day with a plan to finally nationalize healthcare.

Obama said it when they were passing the bill. He said that this was one last chance for the insurance companies to do the right thing.

ObamaCare is a set up. It always was. And the sooner that the Republicans get out in front of this, the better our chances are of getting it repealed. Because the democrats will in short order start blaming the insurance companies, health care providers, republicans and George Bush for the approaching disaster.

Reply 12 - Posted by: cgood, 2/1/2013 9:14:15 AM     (No. 9152073)

Politicians still have the #1 goal to protect #1: themselves. If enough people get mad enough, scream loud enough, we can force our supposed representatives to fix the mess they created. Republicans, unfortunately, have gone silent on the issue when the atrocities are just coming to light. It´s time for the Republicans to start offering alternatives and give the people some solutions to gravitate toward and demand that their congresspersons support.




Reply 13 - Posted by: MattMusson, 2/1/2013 9:31:18 AM     (No. 9152118)

As is ObamaCare will crash the system. And, while for a majority of DEMS that was the objective - there are still a good number who were actually stupid enough to think this would work.

Look for last minute postponements.

Reply 14 - Posted by: enuf8, 2/1/2013 9:38:41 AM     (No. 9152130)

All need to remember exactly how this debacle was originated. obama´s prison buddy drafted it while serving time, the democrats met behind closed doors excluding any republicans from involvement and was crammed down the throats of all during a period of time the democrats owned the House, the Senate and the W.H.
The T.E.A. (Taxed Enough Already) Movement was derived from the actions of obama, polosi and reid. I have not heard of any in Congress who read the bill or attempted to read it and with staffers of these idiots responsible for the contents it was voted into law.
"THROW THEM ALL OUT" - Peter Schweizer´s book is the theme to follow. Let´s get more with backbone into Congress who have some common sense and won´t waffle back and forth on what their beliefs might be.

Reply 15 - Posted by: pete moss, 2/1/2013 9:45:44 AM     (No. 9152152)

Thank you John Roberts, you bought and paid for corrupt criminal!

Reply 16 - Posted by: Coy860, 2/1/2013 9:53:09 AM     (No. 9152167)

We should be screaming about "Equal Protection under the Law".
A suit must be brought, all the way to the Supreme Court. NO ONE should be exempt from this monster..let John Roberts fix his screwup.
Congress, get ready to pony up for your families, unions, pony up.
How DARE they exempt themselves from this?
How DARE they exempt Federal workers?
We already know the working poor (47%) PAY NO federal income tax..they sure aren´t expected to pay for this.
It´s the middle class that will suffer.

Reply 17 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 2/1/2013 10:45:55 AM     (No. 9152314)

Good call, #15. Let´s not forget that this one man, Chief Justice John Roberts, rewrote the legislation and turned it into a "tax" all on his own so he could find it constitutional.

He is either a traitor to America or he is dumb. Either way, he does not belong in the judiciary and should be impeached.

Where are you, Pubbies? Hiding under your paychecks?

And how about let´s hear from George W. Hey, George, how about an apology for putting this guy on the court? Are all you guys just above admitting mistakes?




Reply 18 - Posted by: ocjim, 2/1/2013 10:51:22 AM     (No. 9152333)

Crime of the Century, early in century, dropping this financial and liberty crushing boat anchor on the heads of the American people. Why? Because they could.

Reply 19 - Posted by: ocjim, 2/1/2013 10:56:04 AM     (No. 9152355)

If Roberts would have been Chief Justice in 2000, we´d have had us a President algore. Why? Because it would have been more important to protect the court from the Dem/Left demoninzation machine than to render the proper verdict.

Reply 20 - Posted by: chicodon, 2/1/2013 11:24:49 AM     (No. 9152437)

If you think the country is divided now, just wait. America will be in shambles by 2016 as Obama sails off to his non-extradition country. Half of America will be paying for the other half´s freebies, including healthcare. All of this will have happened in 8 short years. The Obama effect will be felt for many years. There is only one way to reverse course. Turn around, go back to the beginning and start over. If not, the Soviets will have won.

Reply 21 - Posted by: Cat Ballou, 2/1/2013 11:31:06 AM     (No. 9152445)

Well, one way to look at it is, we won´t have all those foreigners coming over here for health care in the future, because we HAD the best health care system in the world....!! There was nothing wrong with the system we had, but there sure will be in the future.

Reply 22 - Posted by: Grambo, 2/1/2013 11:48:08 AM     (No. 9152490)

John Roberts owns this train wreck.



Reply 23 - Posted by: Marzon, 2/1/2013 12:56:19 PM     (No. 9152617)

It´s not a health care law, its a health control law. You and your doctor will no longer be able to control your own medical decisions. The Death Panels will.

Reply 24 - Posted by: M Stuart, 2/1/2013 2:04:44 PM     (No. 9152725)

I´m with you #16!! How DARE they exempt themselves?

Reply 25 - Posted by: maryc, 2/1/2013 2:18:16 PM     (No. 9152747)

Nursing homes will become death camps.

Reply 26 - Posted by: Memphis, 2/1/2013 2:22:40 PM     (No. 9152753)

i think that it is going to have so many problems and there will be so much confusion that it never really gets off the ground. States will say screw it and refuse to let their people participate.

Reply 27 - Posted by: peterfleming, 2/1/2013 2:39:46 PM     (No. 9152772)

In the long run, just like Stalin´s Soviet Communism, just like Hitler´s nazi socialism
our communist structured IRS enforced medi scam will not work. There will be no flow,
no cooperation, mistakes and disaster every
where. Like drug prohibition that has created a massive criminal underworld, like the current attempt control ownership and prohibit guns that can only foster a monster black market in arms, and now like the interruption and prohibition of a simple, timeless, classic, moral doctor patient relationsship, creating yet another black market in medical care, all of this will work itself out, ridding ourselves of the Harry Reed, Pulglosis and Diane Sawyers, and come hopefully to a non violent end.

Reply 28 - Posted by: shamus, 2/1/2013 2:53:11 PM     (No. 9152792)

My guess is that the 2016 election will turn on the issue of how to fix Obamacare. The plan has every appearance of being an epic disaster, and I don´t think voters will be amused.

Reply 29 - Posted by: labrador heaven, 2/1/2013 3:38:06 PM     (No. 9152852)

For anyone who followed the gobs of illegal donations - millions and millions- into Zippy´s campaign funds both times...remember how much it there was to buy judges, blackmail certain parties (could easily have been done to Roberts). All that cash pouring in from outside the country with glaringly phony names with Visa gift cards registered to them. Breitbart ran money through several times with foreign addresses and names, including OBL in Abbottobad (sp.). It was ALL accepted.

and Ulsterman´s WHI said all that money bought lots of folks off - senators, judges, etc. They all had something to hide. Hence, we see no fight coming from them and they are as corrupt as the Dems. Wimpy, but just as corrupt.

And then Ted Cruz came to office. Let´s hope he never waivers, is never met with physical harm or threats, and most of all, doesn´t succumb to Boomtown $$$$ ever.

Reply 30 - Posted by: lencu255, 2/1/2013 3:51:09 PM     (No. 9152863)

up to this day everybody, including you, Luciannites, is blabbering ideologues, schmideologues!
What kind of ideologue will do what current president and his cabal is doing out of ideological motives?
I was asking this questions back in the USSR what kind of commie ideology compels the leaders leave people hungry, without enough clothes and housing and medicine (remind you, they had control over EVERYTHING, even laundromats and small shoe repair stores!)?
The only answer (Sherlock Holmes comes to the rescue) is they HATE people, all of us, they will do everything possible to make us miserable. This is them who are miserable, but the only way to get above us is to make us more miserable than they are.
And here is my axiom: all people are ba$tards, lefties are much more ba$tards than us, conservatives. That´s why they are winning this battle so far.
We have to forget that we are dealing with normal human ba$tards. No, they are not! They are hyenas and sadists!

Reply 31 - Posted by: redwhite&blue2, 2/1/2013 5:05:39 PM     (No. 9152956)


Reply 32 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 2/1/2013 5:28:14 PM     (No. 9153003)

No person or group should be exempt from the Obamacare monstrosity. Everyone should suffer equally. And it should be an ALL or NONE proposition. I saw today they are trying to
amend the contraceptive requirement. No, no carveouts, no exemptions, ALL IN, or ALL OUT.
The law is insane and virtually no one understands much of it, much less all of it.
Obama wants a single payer, Government run Healthcare system as an end goal ( except of course for "certain parties ´ -such as Congress ) The whole thing has been a sham and a scam from the start. and the statements about it by the Democrats virtually all LIES.
( My opinion ).

Reply 33 - Posted by: swarfer, 2/1/2013 5:41:40 PM     (No. 9153030)

Unless there is some legislative change, your looking at the crash and burn of the American Dream for virtually the entire working middle class who have to provide their own health insurance. This has the potential to wipe out a whole generation not to mention all the currently unemployed who actually want to work. This folly will go down in history for its disasterous financial consequences and Barack Obama has his name on it. I never thought I would see the day that I would know for sure that I am significanly smarter and more responsible than the President, Vice President and head of the Senate as well as 53 or so other Senators. Morons, idiots, nincompoops....I don´t even know if the English language has words to descibe these useless beings who brought this pox down upon our house.

Reply 34 - Posted by: K.I.S.S., 2/1/2013 5:55:26 PM     (No. 9153053)

those stupid fools do not know or care that obama is ruining things for them and for the whole country...that is why rhey are obamavoters!!!!

Reply 35 - Posted by: Az Roadrunner, 2/1/2013 6:14:28 PM     (No. 9153082)

As a Military retiree, I´m wondering how much I´m going to be fined for not paying a high amount for my Gov´t supplied Healthcare that I earned for my service... what a mess!

Reply 36 - Posted by: bifgroovey, 2/1/2013 9:30:57 PM     (No. 9153302)

Dear fellow Americans,

When the federal government pays for you medical costs, they now have implicit buy-in to your lifestyle behaviors.

Reply 37 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 2/1/2013 9:31:57 PM     (No. 9153306)

Wow...the natives are restless tonight.

Love the ´Stream of Conciseness´ stuff.

Big love to the new kids and the converts !

Reply 38 - Posted by: altoona, 2/1/2013 10:48:31 PM     (No. 9153406)

#30, I like the way you think.

Reply 39 - Posted by: labrador heaven, 2/1/2013 11:34:56 PM     (No. 9153458)

There is not nearly enough anger being expressed - either that, or there is some rather lukewarm misunderstanding of how far down the hole we are and that the only solutions left fall more in line with "Benjamin Martin" than anything else. I cannot believe the anger and outrage still not expressed by thinking rational adults I encounter every single day. We are being decimated, and most people on all fronts simpy act as if writing a letter to their local paper editor will do something. Or, calling Congress. They don´t give a crap. Your freedom and accountable government -gone.

Our lives, our children´s lives and futures are toast, let alone our freedoms. Germany went the same way, tepid and in denial. Millions of them starved after their Messiah offed himself and left them to deal with his evil.

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National Review Online, by Eliana Johnson    Original Article
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Embattled Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner and an attorney in the Federal Election Commission’s general counsel’s office appear to have twice colluded to influence the record before the FEC’s vote in the case of a conservative non-profit organization, according to e-mails unearthed by the House Ways and Means Committee and obtained exclusively by National Review Online. The correspondence suggests the discrimination of conservative groups extended beyond the IRS and into the FEC, where an attorney from the agency’s enforcement division in at least one case sought and received tax information about the status of a conservative group,

McCain strolls into Dem caucus meeting
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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Kurtz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 7/31/2013 1:28:56 PM     Post Reply
Sen. John McCain — a Democrat? There was confusion Wednesday after the Arizona Republican mistakenly strolled into President Obama’s meeting with Senate Democrats at the Capitol. The room full of Democrats — who happened to be meeting in the same room where the Senate GOP usually holds their weekly policy luncheons — erupted in applause and laughter as the former Republican presidential candidate made his entrance. As McCain, 76, walked out of the Dem-filled space, reporters pressed him as to why he stepped foot in the room.

New Pelosi Agenda: Moms Free
from ´Burden of Child Care´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Dr. Susan Berry    Original Article
Posted By: mitzi- 7/30/2013 7:23:04 PM     Post Reply
In an interview on National Public Radio (NPR), House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said her new agenda for women will give mothers access to day care so they can “earn without carrying the burden of child care.” During the interview, aired on Weekend Edition Sunday, Pelosi spoke about her newly announced agenda, which is on her website, and is titled, “When Women Succeed, America Succeeds: An Economic Agenda for Women and Families,” a plan that includes universal pre-school and access to day care for working women, and an increase in the minimum wage.

Mark Levin urges his 8.5 million
listeners to call a ´We the People´
convention to stop Obama

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/31/2013 7:38:05 PM     Post Reply
Mark Levin, who hosts one of America´s top radio talk shows and is considered by supporters to be the people´s pundit on the Constitution, is rallying his 8.5 million-strong audience to demand an historic convention of state governments to halt the "oppressive power" of the federal government. The author of two New York Times bestsellers on the threats to the Constitution, Levin hopes his latest, "The Liberty Amendments," out mid-August, will spark the state lawmakers to tap a rarely used Constitutional provision to institute measures that would brake President Obama´s use of executive orders, bar thousand-page laws and

Karl Rove, 100+ GOP Donors Send
Letter to Republicans Urging
Immigration Reform

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Breitbart Big Government, by Tony Lee    Original Article
Posted By: SpeedMaster- 7/30/2013 1:58:42 PM     Post Reply
Karl Rove and more than one hundred Republican donors sent a letter to Republican members of Congress on Tuesday, urging them to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill that would include, among other provisions, granting "legal status" to illegal aliens who meet certain criteria. Anticipating that lawmakers will face resistance to the bill when they go home for the August recess, the letter marks the escalation of a campaign in which Republican leaders and donors are pressuring House Republicans to act on an immigration reform bill.

Alaskans Can´t Decide If
Sarah Palin Is Alaskan, Agree
She Shouldn´t Be Senator

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Atlantic Wire, by Philip Bump    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 7/30/2013 12:56:17 PM     Post Reply
No matter how much you may hope for it, it seems unlikely that you´ll be using the phrase "Senator Sarah Palin" with any great regularity in 2015. A new poll indicates that the former Alaska governor is about as popular in the state as Barack Obama — which is to say, not very popular at all. But even more surprising, while the former vice presidential candidate has made Alaska a central part of her public image, the state´s residents split on the question of whether Palin is all that Alaskan. Conducted by Public Policy Polling,

New EPA chief promises jobs,
pulls no punches in
climate change fight

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Washington Times, by Ben Wolfgang    Original Article
Posted By: Scottyboy- 7/31/2013 9:54:00 AM     Post Reply
In her first speech since taking over the Environmental Protection Agency, Gina McCarthy came out swinging Tuesday and promised to ramp up the aggressive climate change agenda laid out by President Obama.(snip)“Can we stop talking about environmental regulations killing jobs? Please, at least for today,” she said during remarks at Harvard Law School. “We need to cut carbon pollution to grow jobs. We need to cut carbon pollution to strengthen the economy. Let’s talk about it positively. Let’s approach this as an opportunity of a lifetime. There are too many lifetimes at stake.”

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