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Cost of giving illegal immigrants path to citizenship could outweigh fiscal benefits
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Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 1/28/2013 9:20:18 PM
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| Any immigration reform plan that allows the roughly 11 million individuals now in the United States illegally to stay in the country would bring with it a mix of new revenues and increased costs. And as President Obama and a bipartisan group of senators separately press the issue this week, past studies suggest it is doubtful that the fiscal benefits of such policy changes would outweigh the costs. By legally joining the workforce, the immigrants in question would generate additional and much-needed income tax but also would become eligible for a certain level of government assistance.
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Comments: I´m trying to grasp desperately the dRATS twisted logic that giving illegal immigrants citizenship suddenly means that they will pay "more" taxes and contribute "more" to paying for 0bamaCare. Every company must have access to that eVerify system and thereby putting the onus on them for who they hire. I know that as a minority, I was hounded for documentation, as well as drug tests to work. Did it ever cross their minds that former company did all those checks?
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
nonsense, 1/28/2013 10:00:25 PM (No. 9145332)
It´s not 11 million, it is more like 20 to 30 million illegals. We are broke, we cannot afford more free stuff. It will destroy the country within 3 months. Not one crumb left for legal Americans.
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lil dotty, 1/28/2013 11:17:48 PM (No. 9145420)
The dark won is nothing but a squatter He forces his way into our home, squats his skinny rear and then invites all his hoodlum buddies to ransack and destroy the place. In a country with laws, he would be shot or put behind bars at this point.
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King of all trolls, 1/28/2013 11:32:24 PM (No. 9145437)
Let´s pretend for a moment that the short bus crowd in charge of the GOP right now were to get a clue. Instead of amnesty deals with Schumer, you´d see them talking to the poor, struggling middle class (aka Reagan Democrats) about labor markets, unemployment, and specifically about how illegal immigration hurts the American worker -- unionist or not. You´d also be talking to upperclass Asians and Indians and legal Latino voters about expanding LEGAL immigration for skilled workers. You´d be attacking the De Facto open border policy of this administration. You´d make the moral argument that people who have broken immigration laws, customs law, tax law, labor law, and have falsified official documents should not be put in the front of the line over all those folks trying to play by the rules to get here. And if you were really shrewd you´d talk about how all this cheap illegal labor from Mexico is lining the pockets of corporate democrat donors. But we live in a world of the stupid party, dominated by stupid people like McCain, Gramnesty, Rubio, Sean Hannity, David Brooks, Boehner, McConnell, and so many others.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp, 1/28/2013 11:33:10 PM (No. 9145438)
May as well make them citizens, they already vote. The Democrat/National Socialists made sure of that in the last election. That´s why Obama is "President".
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bighambone, 1/29/2013 1:02:07 AM (No. 9145506)
Legalized aliens will not pay anymore taxes then they do now, because most are low income and have a lot of dependents, and instead of paying taxes get a tax refund every year. Once legalized they will become eligible for all the tax credits and that is going to cost the government a lot of money pretty quickly. The only reason that illegal aliens file tax returns now is to get a tax refund and to fraudulently file for tax credits based upon claimed children who are not in the USA.
Once they start putting 11 to 20 million legalized aliens on Obama Care the government will start subsidizing most of them because of their low incomes up to $6,000.00 a family per year. Where is all that money going to come from?
They also intend to open the borders to a huge number of foreign agricultural workers who will do agricultural work for awhile then move on into other industries, be granted citizenship and be replaced by an ever ending stream of new foreign agricultural workers. Since agricultural work is highly seasonal, those foreign workers may only be actually working half of the year, yet they would be allowed to stay in the USA indefinitely. When out of work you can bet that the government will be subsidizing them through a lot of different social welfare programs.
The social security disability program will be a prime target of the legalized alien population once they become eligible, human nature being what it is a good percentage of the legalized alien population will claim all sorts of disabilities to get immediate access to those social security payments.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
veritas, 1/29/2013 1:56:10 AM (No. 9145535)
There already is a "path way," you morons! [he types, screaming at the computer....]
Oh -- and I don´t care if it´s two people or twenty million. No Amnesty.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Spidey, 1/29/2013 5:53:17 AM (No. 9145609)
That there´s any debate on this at all is ludicrous. Number one illegals or former ones will still work under the table to avoid taxes. We´ll still get floods of anchor babies resting comfortably on welfare.We´ll have even more healthcare tourism as people come here for expensive treatments they can´t get back home.All they have to do is show up at an emergency room with cancer or kidney failure and we´ll take good care of them. On the other hand if you´re an 80 year old American,your treatment will be highly in doubt. You´ll see more end of life counseling to get old people off the planet sooner.
Euthanasia will become a big worldwide effort in the next couple years under the guise of over population causing climate change.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Janjan, 1/29/2013 6:35:22 AM (No. 9145646)
FTA ´...also would become eligible for a certain level of government assistance´. Is this writer living in a cave? Illegals start slurping at the taxpayer trough minutes after their arrival. Welfare, food stamps, free medical care, in-state college tuition, we just can´t do enough to make their stay comfortable. Oh, and the Democrats will pull the bus right up to your curb on election day to make sure you vote. Who loves ya baby.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Bevan, 1/29/2013 10:04:10 AM (No. 9146142)
"Cost of giving illegal immigrants path to citizenship could outweigh fiscal benefits"
Como se dice duh en espanol?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
mickturn, 1/29/2013 10:17:56 AM (No. 9146182)
There you go again, using facts and logic vs. emotion and agenda...when will you learn?
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