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Proposal to ban welfare
recipients from playing lottery

WTVD-TV [Raleigh NC], by Staff and Associated Press

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Posted By:Maryland_Patriot, 1/26/2013 2:04:54 AM

Raleigh, N.C. -- North Carolina lawmakers are drafting legislation that would ban people on welfare or those who are in bankruptcy from buying lottery tickets. Rep. Paul "Skip" Stam, R-Wake is helping draft the legislation. Stam told ABC11 the vendor selling the lottery ticket would be penalized if they knew the person was on welfare or in bankruptcy. That stipulation is not sitting well with some convenience store clerks that don´t want to be left to enforce a new law.
Source corrected by Staff.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: jond, 1/26/2013 2:13:51 AM     (No. 9139961)

Convenience store clerks more likely don´t want to turn away paying customers.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Topic Thunder, 1/26/2013 2:17:22 AM     (No. 9139962)

You gots to be kidding me. I´ve got a better idea. How about arresting state politicians and lottery officials for tempting low-grade moron welfare recipients (and everyone else) with their sucker-bet, no-win, con games.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: PageTurner, 1/26/2013 2:17:35 AM     (No. 9139963)

I think this would be too hard to enforce. Just make sure they don´t pay for their lottery tix with EBT cards.

As for EBT, I think it should be programmed to only make sales on basics - rice, beans and few staples. No ding dongs, no ho-hos, no booze, no gourmet anything. And certainly no processed foods like Cheetoes. If the moochers and unwed mothers don´t like it, then they better get education for a job. Frankly, gruel is all these moochers deserve.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/26/2013 2:20:34 AM     (No. 9139964)

That´s stupid. Especially the bankruptcy one. You can´t buy lottery tickets with a credit card anyway. And what is a dollar or two now and then? I know some people are addicted, but why do we have to control everybody´s behavior at every turn. If you don´t want to waste money on welfare, then limit it to only a few months and don´t let people reapply for 5 years.. Stop making people permanent dependents on the state!!!! You would save hundreds of millions and people would start supporting themselves with jobs or live off family members instead.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Veritas2009, 1/26/2013 2:21:59 AM     (No. 9139965)

It is not necessary that anyone be banned. It is only necessary that any payout from a State Run Lottery, be reduced by the net of any State paid Welfare benefits for the preceding 10 years.

Note: This would not include Unemployment Insurance benefits, which are bargained for a paid out of premium moneys paid out of wages. And, the money would be netted out before Federal and State unearned income apply.



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Reply 6 - Posted by: Veritas2009, 1/26/2013 2:26:01 AM     (No. 9139966)

Oops, re post #5, I meant unearned income TAX.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Emmajustin, 1/26/2013 2:45:51 AM     (No. 9139971)

How about we just stop welfare. Let them work, earn their own money and then spend their money on whatever they want.
I know a very small % can´t work. We can help them out some other way.
I stand in the grocery line with WAY too many able bodied folks buying expensive stuff. If they want those luxuries, let them work for them.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/26/2013 5:04:28 AM     (No. 9140000)

I think the lawmaker is trying to make a point moreso than proposing a law that can actually pass. There´s really no way to enforce this. People are using their welfare handouts to go to Vegas or go on a cruise.Free money is always going to be abused because there´s no sweat on it.

I´ve seen people stand in line with a long list of numbers,a lot of them boxed for 50 cents which means they win $40. I mean they spend more than they can win. But even so,if they do win the 50 cents boxed number,they can call their buddies bragging they hit the number.

I remember way back when I used to play the numbers based on horse race results. One time I won and the jackass backing the number claimed the winnings was cut because too many people won.

I won a pick 4 boxed one time and only won half because two of the numbers were the same. Something to do with the odds changing when you have 2 of the same number.I didn´t follow the logic then and still don´t.

They love the publicity when someone wins a million dollar scratch off because it brings in more suckers. There´s no way I´m paying 10 or 20 bucks on one scratch off ticket.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: provide, 1/26/2013 5:33:06 AM     (No. 9140008)

See any Democrat sponsors?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Trigger2, 1/26/2013 5:52:43 AM     (No. 9140023)

What? The ACLU would immediately file a lawsuit saying these welfare parasites have a consitutional right to play the lottery as anyone else.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: mitzi, 1/26/2013 7:56:03 AM     (No. 9140135)

That stipulation is not sitting well with some convenience store clerks that don´t want to be left to enforce a new law.

Shouldn´t that be clerks "who" rather than clerks "that"?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Crosscut, 1/26/2013 8:16:16 AM     (No. 9140163)

Also include the purchase of alcohol, pot, lap dances and entering casinos. Require them to show up in person with photo ID to collect their largess. And at no time allow them to get their hands on actual cash unless they´ve earned it the old fashion way. And while we´re at it, eliminate the Earned Income Tax scam.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 1/26/2013 11:35:35 AM     (No. 9140527)

If I post my idea again, you guys are going to start dancing to it- but here goes.
We need to return to the days of commodity food distribution as was the case before cards or cards.
If a person has to stand in line in full sight of their neighbors and friends to get boxes full of dried eggs, canned meat, cornmeal, beans, etc., they may be shamed into finding a job and it´s spin-off , the grocery store.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 1/26/2013 12:44:16 PM     (No. 9140662)

They might as well cancel lotteries entirely, considering a huge portion or the prizes are from the participation of these individuals.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: saguni, 1/26/2013 2:08:59 PM     (No. 9140813)

Poster #14, I had an older, divorced cousin with two girls that I drove to the "county fair barn" to pick up her "commodities." There was a big dumpster outside the door, and all too many people kept the (real) butter and (processed) cheese, and tossed everything else...flour, cornmeal, rice, noodles, oats, powdered milk, powdered eggs, canned meat (like SPAM with more fat), peanut butter, juice and vegetables, all in plain cans or wrappers.

I agree that the old system could put more nutrition into poor homes, but I think there should be an organized method to leave unwanted things in a way (open tables outside the door) that made them available to the public, without recriminations. Or, maybe a card that delineates the maximum of each item a family may take, without requiring the acceptance of all allowed.

I also agree with poster #12 (surprise, surprise, agreeing with the troll) that the enforcement should be against the buyer, not the seller. Sellers have too many regulations as it is, the business climate is just too regulated as it is. Change the EBT cards so they will not pay for unauthorized items, then "capture" the winnings to repay received benefits (not just "welfare" but "Food stamps", Section 8 Housing Assistance, etc...all benefits) and any taxes due, before the "winner" gets one red penny. The state´s "Lottery Commission" is responsible for the pay-outs, they should be required to do the work, by state laws...and if they players don´t like it, they can move to another state. By the same token, state law could require bankruptcy courts to send "garnishments" for debts, if they want.

This seems to be a state question, not a federal one.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: plainjane, 1/28/2013 10:48:20 AM     (No. 9144005)

Welfare people buying these tickets are paying for the college education of decent middle class students in states where the lottery provides in-state college tuition. Most of the welfare recepients are not using their money for the good of their own children, and they are killing the working middle class families who can´t afford higher education for theirs. Why should we upset this balance?

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