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Why Algeria Didn’t Warn the U.S. About Its Hostage Raid
Daily Beast, by Eli Lake
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Posted By:StormCnter, 1/19/2013 5:28:56 AM
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| When Algerian commandos initiated a raid Thursday to free hostages being held at a remote natural-gas complex, it was apparently a surprise to the top levels of the Obama administration as well as America’s key international allies. American workers were believed to be at the sprawling facility, and while details remain sketchy, U.S. officials said Friday that at least one American was killed. That Algeria didn’t inform the U.S.—much less collaborate with it—before launching the raid should come as no surprise. Since 9/11, both the Bush and Obama administrations have tried to cultivate a relationship with Algeria’s military,
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
floridagator, 1/19/2013 5:39:50 AM (No. 9125838)
Because they know that Obama can´t be trusted.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
afherkdriver, 1/19/2013 6:47:53 AM (No. 9125866)
No one in that regime can be trusted. Anything you tell them is turned into a photo op.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
gunnut13, 1/19/2013 6:51:13 AM (No. 9125868)
What #1 said!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Muggins, 1/19/2013 7:06:19 AM (No. 9125889)
The interest of the Obama Administration would be to prolong the ordeal, to set up some kind of ransom deal. It would reward the Radical Islamists for taking hostages and encouragement to continue taking hostages. The correct thing to do is attack quickly with deadly force, and not pay ransom. The message must be, if the Radical Islamists take hostages, those Islamists will be dead withing a few hours, with no hope for ransom.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
fmrusmc0302, 1/19/2013 7:07:14 AM (No. 9125892)
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
fmrusmc0302, 1/19/2013 7:08:37 AM (No. 9125895)
sorry, not trying to be to picky but it is Parris Island, not Paris Island. Thanks
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Crosscut, 1/19/2013 7:09:35 AM (No. 9125896)
Hillary´s brains are scrambled and Obama has no competent advisers to do his thinking for him.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Judith, 1/19/2013 7:50:04 AM (No. 9125933)
If we had a free press, our people would learn that doors being slammed in our face is happening all over the world. While the Idiot was in Burma, a meeting was taking place forming a coalition in Asia. Obama was told he was not welcome. One of the partners in this coalition was Japan. Because we have a corrupt press and a potus who is in a constant state of denial, the USA has left the stage of foreign diplomacy/action, and our citizens are completely unaware of this.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
ranger06, 1/19/2013 7:57:03 AM (No. 9125939)
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
KanCreeper, 1/19/2013 8:21:10 AM (No. 9125973)
Seems like in the last 4.5 years they have realized that our Current Regime cannot be trusted. Pretty Smart for a bunch of Desert Arabs.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
reformationmama, 1/19/2013 8:34:04 AM (No. 9125995)
Biden blabs too much, and Obama takes the credit. I think Algeria was smart in keeping details quiet less the world has to see yet another staged photo from the WH Situation Room.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
NorthernDog, 1/19/2013 8:40:51 AM (No. 9126010)
Perhaps it´s that sign on the White House door: ´´Do not disturb, unless you are bringing gifts´´.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Udanja99, 1/19/2013 8:49:05 AM (No. 9126022)
Because they didn´t want zippy taking credit if it was a success?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
stryker714, 1/19/2013 8:51:51 AM (No. 9126028)
It´s good to see some countries around the globe have street/common sense. If it was something tangible it could be sold as mole preventer in stores.
Knock the chance for success down by 99% if bamster gets involved, either from his intentional actions or the fact everything he touches turns to dust.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
fireboy, 1/19/2013 8:54:19 AM (No. 9126037)
This is what happens when you go from being the #1 Superpower to "just another country like everybody else". You´re not important enough to be kept in the loop.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
planetgeo, 1/19/2013 8:55:58 AM (No. 9126040)
Well, they had a demo of the kind of action they could expect from Obama and Hillary by watching how the non-dynamic duo handled Benghazi. Ergo, negatory ixnay on saying anything to either of them.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Catherine, 1/19/2013 9:12:25 AM (No. 9126088)
Ditto # 1. That was my first thought, too.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Rinktum, 1/19/2013 9:15:41 AM (No. 9126099)
The press is disgusting. They have a narrative and by God they will stick to it. Obama is their messiah and their love and admiration of him trumps their love of county, if they ever had any fondness for the United States. They will never peruse a story that could possibly be considered negative towards Obama. You will be presented with only Obama approved news. Get used to it.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
chicodon, 1/19/2013 9:18:36 AM (No. 9126108)
Not to worry. Obama´s new cabinet will straighten things out. /s Our government is currently staffed by figureheads. Not one is capable of the position they hold. I´m withholding judgement for now but Obama´s coziness with the Brotherhood may be a factor in Algeria´s actions.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
RCFlyer98, 1/19/2013 9:28:38 AM (No. 9126140)
I wouldn´t put water in a leaky bucket, would you? Jes´ sayin´
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
PeoplesRepublikNY, 1/19/2013 9:36:07 AM (No. 9126162)
Right on, #8 and #15. This is also what results from Barry Soetoro´s policy of "leading from behind".
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
gone2pot, 1/19/2013 9:59:59 AM (No. 9126220)
Yeah, and here´s one regarding total loss of faith in the US by a long standing ally, one ZeroHedge posted on the 14th. Did anyone know Germany is pulling all its physical gold from the US and France; 45 percent is in the US and 11 percent in France? Oh yeah and Germany is in the top three owners of the stuff. Think that might start a few collapses real soon if it´s in fact true? Me too.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
William1, 1/19/2013 10:39:17 AM (No. 9126310)
The saddest part of these postings is they all may be equally true. We have such a wide selection from the menu at the Bitter Fruit Café, the only venture ever successfully run by Obama. Such plenty to choose from.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
horacer, 1/19/2013 11:30:59 AM (No. 9126429)
I think it´s as simple as they didn´t see a need too. It was an Algerian problem on Algerian soil and they would deal with as they saw fit. What would consulting Obama or Cameron beforehand have done. Algeria didn´t want military aid. They certainly didn´t want their advice.
We need to repair our relations with them. From what I´ve read Hillary didn´t show them much respect last fall when trying to gain their cooperation in Mali.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Caveman, 1/19/2013 11:56:31 AM (No. 9126491)
#22. The FED better start mining for the stuff today, or they will never be able to deliver. They sure don´t have it in storage.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
grampstosix, 1/19/2013 12:02:05 PM (No. 9126505)
What passes for journalism in this country is pathetic.If those people did their job Obama would NEVER have been elected president in ´08.Sad to say but the alternative at that time was only marginally better.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
osprey21, 1/19/2013 12:18:26 PM (No. 9126528)
First post nails it.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua, 1/19/2013 12:42:04 PM (No. 9126575)
Algeria did not launch a rescue mission. They launched a counter-attack in response to being attacked by terrorists. Algeria did not ask for permission. They have been at war fighting rebels and terrorists for decades. What they did was SOP for them. Hostage and civilian safety is secondary to them in situations like this.
The left and the media does not like anyone that actually fights terrorists so they condemn what Algeria did.
How likely that all the hostages that died were actually being used as human shields?
The unpublished story is AQ brutality, and that AQ has been at war with the rest of civilization that isn´t like them.
Far too much sympathy for AQ from the left and the media.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Tianne, 1/19/2013 12:53:14 PM (No. 9126598)
Latest reports state that all remaining hostages are dead. In the meantime, the inaugural balls and partying have begun. It is all just so surreal.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
dman, 1/19/2013 1:56:29 PM (No. 9126669)
Agreed, #1. If you want to keep a secret, don´t tell anyone.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
wsdiego, 1/19/2013 2:38:35 PM (No. 9126750)
That picture on drudge! Have you ever seen a more clueless pair?
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
navyjag907, 1/19/2013 2:58:39 PM (No. 9126780)
This Administration would have leaked info on the attack. The Algerians are right not to trust them. And they really don´t need anyone telling them how to fight. They´ve been fighting somebody since 1939.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
knarfski, 1/19/2013 3:58:16 PM (No. 9126853)
Yes #1. Also, it´s more and more apparent that Obama´s mind and heart are elsewhere.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
KTWO, 1/19/2013 4:07:47 PM (No. 9126867)
I won´t guess what the Algerians thought. But it wasn´t a good idea to tell anyone before the raid.
We didn´t need to know. And I don´t care if that bruises egos in Washington.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
EnsignO´Toole, 1/19/2013 4:09:31 PM (No. 9126870)
#1 and #2 are sad but true We are losing the Allies from our different conflicts since WWII. We have spat in their faces and it´s not appreciated. Our friends know they are on their own now and can´t count on US.
Unfortunately it works both ways. Americans who are planning trips to different parts of the world should pay close attention to how Obama is handling our foreign policy. At this point there isn´t a place in the world where I would feel safe as a tourist.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
mitzi, 1/19/2013 4:12:24 PM (No. 9126875)
They probably tried to warn the US ... but no one answered the phone at the WH.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
LanieLou, 1/19/2013 4:20:07 PM (No. 9126885)
Arab leaders know who Obama is & his relationship with The Muslim Brotherhood. The terrorists were from Libya, Tunisia & Egypt... where Obama trained the Mo Bro´s on how to invade nations under the guise of democracy... We call it Community Organizing...
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
BuckeyeRon, 1/19/2013 4:38:03 PM (No. 9126905)
Chilling, but I think I have stumbled across one possible reason…I posted a thread, below, from AllAfrica.com with the note that it assembles and distributes for “Magharebia”, as it does for most publications in Africa…finally overlooked the risk that it may be some Islamist radical site and went directly to the “Magharebia” website http://www.magharebia.com/cocoon/awi/xhtml1/en_GB/homepage/
SHOCK….this site is sponsored by the United States Africa Command (AFRICOM)...Why would Algeria share their intent with a military apparatus in a war zone which is in the media game and commissioning North African writers of unknown loyalty to periodically write articles for them?
Some LDotter with a real understanding of our DoD may be able to shed light on whether this is S.O.P. or something else...
North Africa: Morocco Terror Risk Spikes http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=719715
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
BuckeyeRon, 1/19/2013 5:01:24 PM (No. 9126942)
Earlier link for the "Magharebia” website was incomplete:
http://www.magharebia.com/cocoon/awi/xhtml1/en_GB/homepage/default
About Us: http://www.magharebia.com/cocoon/awi/xhtml1/en_GB/document/awi/footer/about/about
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
strike3, 1/19/2013 5:18:46 PM (No. 9126965)
Obama has already demonstrated to the world that he doesn´t care one bit if Americans die unless their bodies can be used to further one of his socialist/marxist agendas. Secrets told to your neighborhood gossip are safer than they are going to the White House.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
wsdiego, 1/19/2013 6:59:20 PM (No. 9127076)
ineptness!
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Nevadadad46, 1/19/2013 7:33:23 PM (No. 9127127)
Algerians face the day-to-day reality of dealing with monsters from the Islamic world. They know there is no negotiating with them and they do not have the slightest hesitation to kill them where ever they find them. The libtard idiots of the Øbama Administration would rather deal with them in a law enforcement, human rights atmosphere the terrorists use to gain time and advantage in the media. Algerians are not going to fall for that nonsense, so go on dealing with the Muslims terrorists in the correct ways the terrorists understand. When your own butt is on the line, you tend to ignore socialist, liberal fantasies.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
Libertygal, 1/19/2013 8:54:07 PM (No. 9127211)
Interesting catching glimpses of this throughout the day. Blurbs on Fox News about how the prezzy was working closely with allies in Algeria, to headlines on Drudge how the Won is struggling to clearly understand what happened. All the while, pretending to be in the loop, while clearly having been left out.
I would hazard to say general mistrust is why. After the botched raid with the French to rescue their hostage, it becomes to the world where the US stands...
God save us.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
pensom2, 1/19/2013 11:03:04 PM (No. 9127327)
The Algerians know that if they advise or bring the Obamabots into the loop, they´ll forfeit their autonomy. The Obamabots would fly in (including ultrasensitive female advisors) and spend two weeks talking, talking, talking, telling the Algerians how to negotiate and respect the "rights" of the terrorists.
You think the Algerians haven´t noticed how the USA has been prosecuting its own soldiers for taking photos of terrorists with panties on their heads?? The Algerians want to be able to kill, maim, and torture terrorists in any way they like without having the Obamabots protesting in horror and reporting them to the Hague for endless investigation and prosecution.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
jorgecito, 1/19/2013 11:39:44 PM (No. 9127349)
Oh c´mon! Does anybody really believe the propaganda that the Obama administration was "surprised"?
Even the writer signals to readers that he´s not a total fool ... or a total tool. Note the third word in this phrase from the first line: ..."it was apparently a surprise to the top levels of the Obama administration..."
What happened in Algeria is a perfect example of Obama´s "leading from behind." What that really means is that under Obama, the US doesn´t lead at all. Obama wanted the Algerians to take total control.
And the truth is, Obama doesn´t care that Americans and other Westerners were slaughtered by the Islamists. Oh, he might cry crocodile tears for "the families of the victims;" and he might repeat that increasingly meaningless bromide, "We will not rest until the perpetrators are brought to justice." But the reality is, he doesn´t care about a few white Western capitalists.
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explained to the Women in the World summit in New York today that the clock is turning back for women in America. Clinton praised her own mother for helping empower her to success and marveled at the opportunities that her own daughter Chelsea has pursued. But Clinton warned that there is still so much to do to promote women´s rights in America. "As I look at all these young women that I am privileged to work with, or know through Chelsea, and its hard to imagine turning the clock on them," Clinton said.
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White House Blames Jobs Numbers on Sequester
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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Wynton Hall
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Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/5/2013 8:02:58 PM
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The Obama White House is scrambling to blame Friday’s abysmal March jobs numbers on the sequester’s trimming of the rate of growth in federal budgets that have yet to fully commence. After the Labor Department announced that a mass exodus of 663,000 workers left the U.S. workforce last month and that job creation fell 112,000 jobs short of projections, Obama’s top economic adviser Alan B. Krueger, took to the White House blog to blame the sequester: It is important to bear in mind that the March household and payroll surveys are the first monthly surveys to look
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Mother Of Slain Benghazi Officer To Sean Hannity: ‘They Want Me To Shut Up’
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Mediaite, by A.J. Delgado
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Posted By: StormCnter- 4/7/2013 5:00:16 AM
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On Friday, Sean Hannity brought Pat Smith, mother of the late Sean Smith, on his radio program. The 34-year-old information management officer was one of four Americans murdered in the Benghazi embassy attack on September 11, 2012. In the chilling interview, a distraught Ms. Smith, in tears, pleaded for answers and spoke of the efforts to silence her. Ms. Smith first relayed how her son, prior to the attack, requested additional security in advance and warned the State Department: He did tell them, ahead of time, he typed it into his little typewriter over there,
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Vanishing workforce weighs on growth
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Washington Post, by Jim Tankersley
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Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/6/2013 11:28:59 PM
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Put out an all-points bulletin: Millions of Americans have gone missing from the workforce. Every month that those would-be workers are gone raises the odds that they might never come back, dimming the prospects for future economic growth. The vanishing trend is more than a decade old, but it accelerated during the Great Recession. Throughout 2012, economists held out hope that it had stopped. But then came Friday’s jobs report, and hopes were dashed. The Labor Department reported that the U.S. labor force — everyone who has a job or is looking for one — shrank
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Trayvon Martin´s parents settle wrongful death claim
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Orlando Sentinel, by Rene Stutzman
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Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/5/2013 3:15:25 PM
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SANFORD - Trayvon Martin´s parents have settled a wrongful death claim for an amount believed to be more than $1 million against the homeowners association of the Sanford subdivision where their teenage son was killed. Their attorney, Benjamin Crump, filed that paperwork at the Seminole County Courthouse, a portion of which was made public today. In the five pages of the settlement that were available for public review, the settlement amount had been marked out. Lower in the agreement, the parties specified that they would keep that amount confidential. When asked during an earlier interview whether the amount was
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Beyonce, Jay-Z celebrate 5th anniversary in Havana, Cuba
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Los Angeles Times, by Nardine Saad
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Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 4/6/2013 8:20:04 AM
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Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for
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