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House GOP: We´ll Raise Debt
Limit for 3 Months if Senate
Agrees to Produce a Budget

Weekly Standard, by John McCormack

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Posted By:StormCnter, 1/18/2013 2:40:49 PM

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says in a statement: Fitch Ratings agency recently said, if the debt limit is raised without substantive deficit reduction, our nation´s credit rating could be downgraded. The President´s plan to simply borrow more money without any reform in Washington puts us all at risk. The first step to fixing this problem is to pass a budget that reduces spending. The House has done so, and will again. The Democratic Senate has not passed a budget in almost four years, which is unfair to hardworking taxpayers

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Reply 1 - Posted by: dman, 1/18/2013 2:44:53 PM     (No. 9124867)

A good approach. But do the Pubs have the "stones" to back it up? Reid and NerØ´bama will reject it out of hand, and continue to blame the Pubs. This is not "rocket science", guys.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: curious1, 1/18/2013 2:46:15 PM     (No. 9124872)

You better have a tighter agreement that "produce a budget" - maybe something like produce a budget both houses agree on and the president signs? And make sure you eliminate funding for the epa, doe*2, batf, etc.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: TXknitter, 1/18/2013 2:54:52 PM     (No. 9124886)

#2, absolutely. If its something like "producing" the budget, heck, a million ways to outfox Pubbies on that one.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 1/18/2013 3:06:49 PM     (No. 9124910)

...produce a budget by such and such date. Be specific, GOP.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 1/18/2013 3:06:58 PM     (No. 9124911)

Not Produce. Approve the bill that has been presented by the House.

You are a fool to expect the Senate under the leadership of Harry Reid to produce anything aside from heartburn and gas.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: viking diver, 1/18/2013 3:11:36 PM     (No. 9124923)

fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...
GOP the senate has fooled you so many times come on grow a pair and stop this non-sense and shut down the government, we don´t need it and I could use keeping more of my hard earned money. pipe dream that will never happen

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Reply 7 - Posted by: lancelink1, 1/18/2013 3:18:04 PM     (No. 9124934)

The argument should not be "We will raise debt limit if the senate agrees to produce a budget" but "We won´t prosecute if the senate produces a budget like they are legally bound by the Constitution to do so. Then we can begin to talk about spending and debt limits."

Geez Louise. Spending and debt limits when $16 trillion in the hole and not one budget seen from these no talent arse clowns for four years.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 1/18/2013 3:19:57 PM     (No. 9124937)

When does our side hammer back?

On anything.

Should I just stop watching for the next 4 years, or what?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: KTWO, 1/18/2013 3:20:38 PM     (No. 9124940)

Too vague for me. The Democrats can easily produce a budget. But it will be a farce. They can budget $50t or $500t. They could budget a $10b salary for Obama.

The GOP knows this. The Democrats know it. They better get busy and pass a sensible budget now. Otherwise to H&** with both parties and Washington.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 1/18/2013 3:22:09 PM     (No. 9124947)

No, Eric - - you RINO wuss.

Not when they "agree" to produce a butdget - - but when they actually DO produce a budget.

Got it, you linguini-spined Pubbie?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Whamdbambam, 1/18/2013 3:24:37 PM     (No. 9124952)

And you think Harry Reid´s promise is worth anything? Craven fools.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: tsquare, 1/18/2013 3:39:36 PM     (No. 9124979)

i would be very happy to see a defunding of the office of president and the congress critters until a real deficit reduction plan is in place and executed. Why kick the can until May?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: JimS, 1/18/2013 3:56:23 PM     (No. 9125004)

No. This is a stupid strategy. They can create an outlandish budget.
Correct approach should be No Approved Budget, No Debt Increase Approval.

Harry Reid has to pass a suitable budget that the House can approve.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: jerseytomato, 1/18/2013 4:10:54 PM     (No. 9125030)

The Senate hasn´t produced a budget in four years, and they clearly have no intention of producing one now.

This isn´t a matter of neglegence - it´s crimminal.

Why are we bribing the Senate - what are we paying them for when they refuse to do their jobs???

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Reply 15 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 1/18/2013 4:27:55 PM     (No. 9125055)

I figured the Republicans under Boehner will roll over for Obama and his cronies one way or another. Now they may "temporarily" raise the debt limit for three months? This is pure Kabuki theater from Boehner and his boys. The ´RATS are disgusting but I am starting to get sick of the Repubs also. Our government is run by criminals on both sides. Boehner is the best friend Obama ever had, just like Justice Roberts turned out to be. Both traitors.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: sgtfox of the jarhead clan, 1/18/2013 4:42:58 PM     (No. 9125081)

There they go, negotiating with domestic terrorists.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 1/18/2013 4:47:54 PM     (No. 9125098)

Wow! Nothing encourages our side more than people rallying behind their efforts./s

I don´t see anyone on this thread with a better solution, but we can´t let that stop us from tearing down our own, can we.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/18/2013 4:50:58 PM     (No. 9125106)

It is not the Senate´s job to create a budget! It is the job of the house! Let the House put up the budget, send it over to the Senate and refuse any further legislation - Period! - until the Senate returns the budge in conference. And stand firm! Shut the government down solid unless there is a budget. That should do it.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/18/2013 4:53:43 PM     (No. 9125108)

This is a good tactic. Ignore the crazy people who seem to think that the GOP is actually in charge of anything currently.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: yuban, 1/18/2013 4:55:34 PM     (No. 9125112)

#17, sounds to me you are putting down the posters. Are most of them GOP? I think so. It is simple, once a budget is passed, then, and only then, look at the debt ceiling.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: javaboy, 1/18/2013 5:22:28 PM     (No. 9125169)

From the LSM:

"Republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling and want to cause a govt shutdown."

Though Cantor is actually doing what Charles Krauthammer suggested, the non-Fox media will only report that the Republicans are trying to hold up the Federal Govt. Nothing will be mentioned about Reid and his breaking the law by not producing a budget.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: VAfreedomluver, 1/18/2013 5:25:48 PM     (No. 9125174)

The Republican Party needs to stop worrying about what the MSM thinks and just do what is right. They shouldn´t be under the illusion that the MSM would treat them favorably under any circumstances. Stick to your guns, and the people will come around.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: sunsong, 1/18/2013 5:38:40 PM     (No. 9125193)

Great news!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: grampstosix, 1/18/2013 6:32:29 PM     (No. 9125295)

And when it comes to spending cuts ALL DEMS must vote for it and just enough pubs to get it passed.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: nonsense, 1/18/2013 6:55:55 PM     (No. 9125338)

You have to admit, this should resonate with every American, no matter what side they are on, excluding the no-information voter of course. Everyone understands, if you don´t do your job, you don´t get paid. A simple message, easy to understand.

This also gets the Republicans past the Coronation and the State of the Nation speeches that Mr. O threatened to use to bully "the opposition".

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Kerryman, 1/18/2013 11:30:37 PM     (No. 9125679)

I have been advocating this position on this site since the first continuing resolution in the Spring of 2011. We had a House passed Budget. It produced a certain amount of Deficit Reduction over the ten covered years. That Deficit Reduction would have to be the target of the Senate. They would have to use the same guidelines used by the House for CBO scoring. They could do that anyway they wanted to do it but it had to reach that result.

Once they do, and you go to conference, move the debt ceiling again giving enough time to complete the Conference. Once the conference is completed, the President must sign. Two separate Houses, two separate parties, bi-partisan, You think he won´t sign?

OK. You now have a budget. You move the debt Limit 90 days to get all the Appropriation Bills passed and signed. Once done you move the Debt Limit 12 months and repeat the cycle.

All of this is about the Senate not wanting to be Accountable. This changes that. Their choice is hugh tax increases on the Middle Class or Entitlement Reform. I bet the former which is only a band aid making their problem greater. It also gets exposed in Conference. Entitlement Reform will have to come out of conference, perhaps with some Tax Reform. The Tax Extenders from the fiscal cliff deal is a start.

You get the idea. My congressman is the Chairman of the Joint Economic Committee. He has been well briefed on how this works. We´ll see.

Semper Fi

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