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West Point center cites
dangers of ‘far right’ in U.S.

Washington Times, by Rowan Scarborough

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/17/2013 9:32:51 PM

A West Point think tank has issued a paper warning America about “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist” movement, which supports “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government.” The report issued this week by the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., is titled “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right.” The center — part of the institution where men and women are molded into Army officers — posted the report Tuesday. It lumps limited government activists with three movements it identifies as “a racist/white supremacy movement, an anti-federalist movement

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Wow. Things sure have changed haven´t they. Uh, shouldn´t this Combating Terrorism Center be paying more attention to the Muslim terrorists?? I note there is no mention of the Black Panthers and their racist movement and threats of anarchy. Good. Grief.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Keekng, 1/17/2013 9:35:49 PM     (No. 9123278)

Is this the USA?


Reply 2 - Posted by: Janjan, 1/17/2013 9:36:11 PM     (No. 9123279)

Wow those of us who support individual liberty and self government have officially become enemies if the state. Let me be the first on this thread to wear the title proudly.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Coach, 1/17/2013 9:38:00 PM     (No. 9123286)

No offense to many many many fine Army officers and solders past and present, but if I had to venture which of the services this would come from, "Army" would have been out of my mouth instantly.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 1/17/2013 9:42:13 PM     (No. 9123292)

When the full revolt occurs, the fascist/socialist in the goobernment (Obambi, Reid, Piglosi et a) will depend on the military to kill its own citizens. This has to have a very strong officer corps as many of the GIs, marines, and sailors will disobey orders. Thus a strong f=group of jr. officers are needed to control and get enlisted service personnel to kill US citizens. This study is to mind wash the very officers that will be crucial in saving the tyrannical and evil federal goobernment we now have.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Alpha91c, 1/17/2013 9:44:49 PM     (No. 9123302)

Under our current President, the federal government is generally forbidden to suggest that there is any connection between Muslims or Islam and terrorism. That is why the Fort Hood shooting is officially workplace violence, not Islamic terrorism. Conservatives however are fair game. Our President has often alluded to the fact that he considers republicans and conservatives as enemies.


Reply 6 - Posted by: wsdiego, 1/17/2013 9:49:48 PM     (No. 9123309)

The left is constantly in cover-up mod! Accuse your perceived enemy of what is pervasive in their own mitts! It helps the stupid to look away! Just a generalized statement, no need to give a real example when non can be found! Of course, it can always be made-up!


Reply 7 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/17/2013 9:54:25 PM     (No. 9123312)

What did you really expect? The fish rots from the head down. Further, do you think that the CIA - which recruits heavily from the ´elite´ left-wing universities - is conservative? BHO would fit right in ideologically.

Was the British MI5 reliable during the Cold War? It recruited from Oxbridge.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: turninggrey, 1/17/2013 9:57:52 PM     (No. 9123317)

Arie Perliger is the Director of Terrorism Studies at the Combating Terrorism Center and Assistant Professor at the Department of Social Sciences, US Military Academy at West Point. After completing his PhD in Political Science at the University of Haifa Israel (2007), where he was also a fellow at the National Security Studies Center (NSSC), Dr. Perliger became affiliated with the Department of Political Science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem as a Golda Meir Post-Doctoral Fellow (2007-2008). On August 2008 Dr. Perliger joined the Department of Political Science at the State University of New York at Stony Brook, where he was a Schusterman Visiting Assistant Professor until the summer of 2010.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Laurie, 1/17/2013 9:59:57 PM     (No. 9123322)

As an Air Force veteran married to an Air Force retiree, this seriously makes my blood run cold.


Reply 10 - Posted by: grampstosix, 1/17/2013 10:03:44 PM     (No. 9123326)

A much greater concern is the terrorists that have slipped into the country via Mexico and live among us waiting for the word


Reply 11 - Posted by: Guard SGT (ret), 1/17/2013 10:09:20 PM     (No. 9123336)

I will admit I am not that impressed by the Regular Army based on my tour in Iraq. Us Guardsman can do in a weekend what it takes the Regular Army all month to do.

That said, most Army officers are NOT from West Point.

I think when it comes down to it, Barry will learn that he can never use the military against Americans. That just isn´t the way we are trained. Plus there are many TEA Party and Oath Keepers in the Armed Forces.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Heil Liberals, 1/17/2013 10:16:35 PM     (No. 9123348)

I have wondered for a while if Colin Powell is an anomaly coming out of our military. It is apparent that he is not. The corruption of our military leadership has threatened the freedom of the individual citizen. With a corrupted mind in charge of the military, it only requires like-minded military leaders to destroy the freedoms generations have worked and struggled to build and maintain.

The Founding Fathers feared a standing army as a threat to individual freedom. Since WW II we have had the most powerful standing army on the planet. It has been an army led by men who stood with freedom. However, I fear that such is no longer true. This "paper" has the odor of a position statement; it´s a not so subtle note to The Won that they have his back.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: neanderthal, 1/17/2013 10:26:53 PM     (No. 9123367)

Break out the fifes and drums, boys! Provide yourselves with a gun with a true barrel, a full horn of dry powder, three spare flints, and a pound of ball. It´s time to drive our 21st century King George back across the water where he came from.


Reply 14 - Posted by: god of irony, 1/17/2013 10:28:11 PM     (No. 9123369)

And moronic stuff like this is why we have civilian leadership. Like any other government agency, DOD is always looking to expand.


Reply 15 - Posted by: eorsc, 1/17/2013 10:30:02 PM     (No. 9123374)

Sounds like the Muslim Brotherhood has gone into writing the class literature for our military. As a maatter of fact, most of our military votes Republican, so I guess they are now being brainwashed. Where is Van Jones?


Reply 16 - Posted by: john56, 1/17/2013 10:41:13 PM     (No. 9123382)

Welcome to Big Brother (Orwell´s 1984).

I guess we´re the resistance, since opposition to Dear Leader(US) will soon be considered illegal, immoral, racist, homophobic, and all sorts of bad things.


Reply 17 - Posted by: 2timothy1:7, 1/17/2013 10:51:04 PM     (No. 9123394)

It says anti-federalists “espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights. Finally, they support civil activism, individual freedoms, and self government. Extremists in the anti-federalist movement direct most their violence against the federal government and its proxies in law enforcement.”

And? Am I missing something?? Didn´t Reagan say the Govt is not the solution but the problem? Would he make the List?


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: oh-heck, 1/17/2013 10:55:28 PM     (No. 9123405)

“civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government.” I had to copy to make sure I wasn´t misquoting. What country did these bozos come from?


Reply 19 - Posted by: JHBoatwright, 1/17/2013 10:56:16 PM     (No. 9123406)

Why not just ban all people.
That´ll take care of the 2nd Amendment.


Reply 20 - Posted by: sagman, 1/17/2013 10:57:25 PM     (No. 9123412)

We are living in a topsy-turvy world, my friends, when a report such as this citesdcpatriots for endangering government.


Reply 21 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/17/2013 11:18:41 PM     (No. 9123431)

More PROOF that the people in our Federal Government are looking to crack down and create a totalitarian tyranny. They don´t want people to be free and self-govern. They want complete and total control. They are pure evil and this is exactly why the 2nd Amendment was written and why there should be absolutely NO gun control laws at all. NONE. I would rather have crazies with guns than these tyrants.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Newtsche, 1/17/2013 11:19:36 PM     (No. 9123432)

I know nothing about this center but generations ago the left targeted and infiltrated key elements of this society -- education, information, entertainment, respected philanthropic foundations, the State Department, the courts, the Democrat party...you get the idea. A look into the who´s who at West Point would be interesting.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: lavalette, 1/17/2013 11:36:06 PM     (No. 9123442)

From the beginning, it has been Obama and his fellow Democrats intention to change the US military from an entity meant to defend the country from external threats to an internal politicized police force to control the States and the citizens. All senior military promotions are based on political loyalty to the Party. No dissent is allowed down to at least the rank of Corporal. We are nearing the end game for what was once America.


Reply 24 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 1/17/2013 11:41:20 PM     (No. 9123444)

It is best to be informed before forming opinions. The concern should be also that those on the left with a totalitarian agenda will attempt to lump all opposition to their policies into the ´far right´ category in order to achieve their own tyrannical goals.

Those who truly care about the Founding Documents don´t want tyranny in any form from any group.

Here is a bit more info about this paper:

http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/identifying-three-trends-in-far-right-violence-in-the-united-states


Reply 25 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 1/17/2013 11:43:59 PM     (No. 9123447)

Sorry about not closing the bold print on that post (#24). It´s late, I´m multi-tasking and tired.


Reply 26 - Posted by: Chief1942, 1/17/2013 11:57:54 PM     (No. 9123454)

This is what you get when progressive/socialists take over public education at all levels. They are simply prepairing "their" troops to enable them to forcefully implement their progressive/socialist agenda for this nation. Remember that there are approx 45 million military veterans in this country who will not go quietly into the realm of progressive/socialism. They are equally as capable as those being indoctrinated at West Point. Annapolis, or the Air Force Academy, in prosecuting armed conflict. May even be better.


Reply 27 - Posted by: on fire, 1/18/2013 12:09:01 AM     (No. 9123463)

I´m sending this piece to my Congressman and ask that they find the source of this trash, take names and defund them.


Reply 28 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 1/18/2013 12:57:42 AM     (No. 9123479)

Wow.
Looks like political correctness, libnut thinking, left-wing politics, and anti-Americanisn have taken over West Point.

You can hang that right on the shoulders of the top brass in the Army and West Point.

I´ll bet Paneta had his hands in the pie.


Reply 29 - Posted by: steveW, 1/18/2013 1:06:30 AM     (No. 9123483)

Step by step - infiltrate and subvert. The Socialists are determined to get their revolution in the USA. Step by step - infiltrate and subvert.


Reply 30 - Posted by: mws50, 1/18/2013 2:56:20 AM     (No. 9123515)

Translation:

America’s Violent Far-Right = Anyone to the right of the Moderates; Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, and Waxman.

Enemy of the State = Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y.

Barking moonbat-crazy lies = the liberal-democratic system is designed to emphasize civil rights, minority rights and the balance of power.

US Constitutional Patriots = Citizens that support civil activism, individual freedoms, and self government.



Reply 31 - Posted by: flatwater, 1/18/2013 3:03:17 AM     (No. 9123517)

Since when is America threatened by "civil activism, individual freedom and self government?"

When the Occupy Wall Street jackasses were camping everywhere, we heard nothing but PRAISE for them from the press!

These same OWS lunatics were committing murders, dealing drugs, stealing, defecating on police cars and plotting to blow up bridges!

Did you ever see any TEA Party members engaged in these horrifying activities?

Of course not.

Once again the angry, violent Left is excused for all their horrific actions, while freedom-loving, peaceful people are persecuted for thinking that maybe, just maybe, our government should have to function within the confines of our founding document, the Constitution of the United States.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/18/2013 3:38:29 AM     (No. 9123523)

I wonder if any senator will have the gall to ask Hagel if he´d order troops to kill other Americans?
I really don´t understand what the left thinks will be left once they kill off all the right wingers? Liberals aren´t going to get off their asses to provide the goods and services,let alone the taxes the country needs.

Damn right people are scared of their own government with Obama being whatever he is,not my president.


Reply 33 - Posted by: LanieLou, 1/18/2013 3:53:57 AM     (No. 9123525)

Doesn´t targeting Americans for their politics qualify as a violation of the constitution? I understand this is an expansion of what the progressives are doing in schools, movies, MSM & elsewhere... but labeling conservatives as terrorists & training the military to be prepared to fight Americans... must break some law.


Reply 34 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 1/18/2013 5:21:58 AM     (No. 9123555)

The government wants the ability to find groups like this and then they can weed them out. Sounds like the takeover has began.


Reply 35 - Posted by: civilservant, 1/18/2013 9:24:56 AM     (No. 9123983)

#5, apropos of your comment, I have a question I´d like to ´aks´ the Presnidebt.......
"Sir, if Newtown proves(to him, not me) that guns are dangerous and need to be restricted and tightly controlled, what does Ft. Hood tell us about Muslims?"


Reply 36 - Posted by: MattMusson, 1/18/2013 9:31:19 AM     (No. 9124009)

“espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights. Finally, they support civil activism, individual freedoms, and self government"


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Reply 37 - Posted by: JimJr, 1/18/2013 11:16:44 AM     (No. 9124282)

Thanks for the link #24. Skimming through, the author(s) are conflating White Separatist/White Power/Neo-Nazi (white racist socialist) movement with Constitutional Conservatives/Libertarians. This seems to be the usual modus operandi in order to introduce "straw men" arguments against patriotic, law-abiding, Constitution loving citizens.


Reply 38 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 1/18/2013 11:25:42 AM     (No. 9124314)

Seems time for a name change: make it "East Point"!


Reply 39 - Posted by: JimJr, 1/18/2013 11:50:03 AM     (No. 9124415)

If you will, please allow me to submit short treatise on the "Political Spectrum".

The Left-Right paradigm of politics comes from the British House of Commons, where traditionally the Labor (liberal-progressive) party members sit to the left of the Speaker and Torry (moderately conservative) party sites to his right. This is an incorrect view of politics. The political spectrum is a continuum bounded by the total lack of government (anarchy) on one end and totalitarian government on the other. In today´s world, Somalia would sit at one end (anarchy) and North Korea at the other (totalitarian). Between the center and anarchy, lies Classic Libertarianism. Moving toward the center you would find Constitutional Republicanism, or the United States of 1787-1901. Moving from the center in the other direction, you will find (current) Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism, Fascism, National Socialism and Communism. National Socialists (Nazis) and International Socialists (Communists) are the two sides of the same coin and neither can be claimed to be representative of patriotic, Constitution-loving Americans.


Reply 40 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 1/18/2013 12:50:57 PM     (No. 9124600)

Right wingers "support ... individual freedoms..." but their "ideology is designed to exclude minorities..."

Huh??

Protection of individual rights against collectivist programs protects every "minority." It is collectivism alone that overrules the rights of any minority.



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Chelsea Clinton doesn´t close
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USA Today, by Catalina Camia    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/8/2013 10:23:20 AM     Post Reply
Chelsea Clinton has raised her profile in the last few days, which sparked the inevitable question about the former first daughter´s future: Will she ever be like Mom and Dad and run for office? Clinton, 33, essentially said "maybe" in an interview that aired Monday on NBC´s Today show. "Right now I´m grateful to live in a city, a state and a country where I strongly support my mayor, my governor, my president and my senators and my representative," said Clinton, whose father, Bill, was president from 1993-2001 and her mother, Hillary

Special ops veterans’ group
calls for select probe of
Benghazi attack

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Fox News, by Catherine Herridge    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/8/2013 7:00:09 AM     Post Reply
More than 700 Special Operations veterans are urging members of Congress to back a select committee to investigate last year’s Benghazi terrorist attack, according to a letter first obtained by Fox News. The letter from the group, “Special Operations Speaks,” supports the appointment of a special committee tasked with the single mission of investigating the attack that left Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans dead, and shut down the CIA operation in an annex of the Benghazi consulate, in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack. “Congress must show some leadership and provide answers to the public

Obama flying 11 relatives of Sandy Hook
victims to D.C. on Air Force One so
they can back gun control in person

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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: BuckeyeRon- 4/8/2013 4:05:18 PM     Post Reply
President Barack Obama is bringing 11 relatives of those killed in the shooting at Connecticut´s Sandy Hook Elementary School to Washington on Air Force One on Monday so they can personally encourage senators to back gun legislation that faces tough opposition. A nonprofit organization that works with the families, Sandy Hook Promise, said that after Obama´s speech on gun control in Hartford, he is flying with relatives of seven children and one staffer killed during December´s massacre at the school. The White House says Obama is going to argue that lawmakers have an

Updated: White House, McCain
blast Cruz for threatening
filibuster over guns

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Houston Chronicle, by Joanna Raines    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/8/2013 4:55:05 PM     Post Reply
There was growing buzz over the weekend that a bipartisan agreement on gun control — a deal that would expand background checks — could hit the floor as early as this week. However, any deal could be derailed by the looming threat of a Republican filibuster involving Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. With Cruz standing proudly in the way of any gun legislation, Democrats are trying to make him pay a political price — and even a couple of high-profile Republicans are questioning his tactics.

North Korea´s Army Is Full of Jumping,
Leaping, High-Kicking Martial Artists

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Atlantic, by Connor Simpson    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/8/2013 5:48:23 AM     Post Reply
Amid all of the very real threats of war and stuff from North Korea, you´d think American intelligence officers want as much video footage of the enemy as possible. Well, here is one video featuring North Korean exercises and Kim Jong-Un holding a gun, and we´ll say this: they certainly get points for presentation. Remember the clap-happy report from Dennis Rodman´s diplomatic basketball vacation? This video comes courtesy of the same Youtube channel that gave us that Rodman video. It appears to be the same state news channel.(Snip for video)This latest dispatch from North Korea´s state television


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