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Obama unveils $500 million
gun violence package

Associated Press, by Erica Werner & Julie Pace

Original Article

Posted By:JoniTx, 1/16/2013 12:37:31 PM

WASHINGTON— Without waiting for Congress, President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced a sweeping $500 million program to curb gun violence, setting up a fight over universal background checks and bans on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines, in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting. Obama also used his presidential powers to issue 23 orders that don´t require congressional approval. The largely incremental executive steps include requiring federal agencies to make more data available for background checks, appointing a fulltime director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and directing the Centers

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: JAN, 1/16/2013 12:39:14 PM     (No. 9120138)

And the money goes to??????????


Reply 2 - Posted by: Dante, 1/16/2013 12:47:16 PM     (No. 9120166)

Interesting how the tragic act of a deranged individual merits a massive response, but the deliberate, coordinated, criminal activities of the executive branch, called "Fast and Furious", are marginalized and ignored.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: CEP, 1/16/2013 12:50:16 PM     (No. 9120175)

Not one word about the gang violence, nothing, nada, the gang violence has been going on for so long yet Obama ignores it.


Reply 4 - Posted by: geoguy, 1/16/2013 12:50:49 PM     (No. 9120177)

House of Representatives - don´t fund this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: harper, 1/16/2013 12:52:23 PM     (No. 9120183)

Buzzards
Circling
Waiting
Tragedy
Feeding Frenzy


Reply 6 - Posted by: JimS, 1/16/2013 12:56:20 PM     (No. 9120197)

Where is the money coming from?
Was it authorized by the House?
I guess since we haven´t had a budget for 3 years, we don´t need one, and Obama can spend whatever he wants on anything.
Unless there is an appropriations bill to back this spending, the House should shut him down


Reply 7 - Posted by: god of irony, 1/16/2013 1:03:19 PM     (No. 9120217)

The federal government is operating under a Continuing Resolution Amendment (thanks to the democrats). Under federal law no new starts are allowed during a CRA.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: pinkpanther, 1/16/2013 1:08:12 PM     (No. 9120242)

What exactly are the 23 EO´s he issued and why isn´t the press telling us what they are?


Reply 9 - Posted by: Peach1, 1/16/2013 1:18:04 PM     (No. 9120268)

#8, there is a complete list at foxnews.com, which is also listed as an article here on Lucianne.


Reply 10 - Posted by: voxpopuli, 1/16/2013 1:37:22 PM     (No. 9120316)

fta..
"Without waiting for Congress.."
this ASSUMES, by the commie MSM, that Congress was on board with this and he is just kinda helping them out..


Reply 11 - Posted by: gam, 1/16/2013 1:50:25 PM     (No. 9120337)

Before the armed guards at Sidwell, the Obama kids were guarded by security at the U of Chicago Laboratory School. The children of Congressmen and staffers on Capitol Hill are guarded at the daycare center by armed USCapitol Police.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Namma, 1/16/2013 1:51:28 PM     (No. 9120340)

so it cost 500 million dollars to have a gun violence package..that should just abut take care of gun violence forever....dang expensive pkg and where does the money go


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: lakerman1, 1/16/2013 1:55:26 PM     (No. 9120350)

That jive high five to the fur children at the end of his muddled comments was absolutely inappropriate.
We have a wannabe ghetto thug as president, who is an advocate for illegal drug use, which, in turn, is the basis for the gang violence as they carve out sales areas.
"I like marijuana but prefer cocaine, when I can afford it." Barack Hussein Obama, Dreams From My Father, 1995.

And - from his literary agent, for the period 1995 to 2007 - Born in kenya to a kenyan economist and american anthroplogist....


Reply 14 - Posted by: Mazeman, 1/16/2013 1:59:26 PM     (No. 9120359)

#8

Here are the EOs:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/16/list-executive-actions-obama-plans-to-take-as-part-anti-gun-violence-plan/


Reply 15 - Posted by: sadc, 1/16/2013 2:08:45 PM     (No. 9120382)

So, is anyone going to ask a school principal or official or the Prezy how this makes things better when a bad guy approaches a school with weapons? The schools are disarmed.Any location that does not allow guns is a target. So,no matter how many laws, rules, whatever, bear in mind: a criminal does NOT follow rules. The most vulnerable are still vulnerable, unprotected and sitting ducks.


Reply 16 - Posted by: rmagnus, 1/16/2013 2:15:37 PM     (No. 9120396)

Obama controls the most powerful military in the world and can´t pass the background check to get a gun.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Illinois Mom, 1/16/2013 2:21:44 PM     (No. 9120408)

I though that Congress spent all the money.

Obama has not spent one minute in Chicago speaking with his own Southside neighbors about the deaths of their innocent children at the hands of the thug "children" of his other neighbors. These are the same people who turn out to welcome him adoringly when he deigns to make rare trip back to the house....A house that needs 3 shifts of ARMED Secret Service to guard it while it stands empty. (He usually stays elsewhere when in Chicago).

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Memphis, 1/16/2013 2:22:17 PM     (No. 9120409)

Nobody will pay attention to this crap. It is an Executive Order and he has no authority to pass a law without Congressional approval. So it is worthless.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/16/2013 2:22:33 PM     (No. 9120410)

Would any of this bee ess have stopped the massacre at Newtown?
WHO does he think he is kidding?
Has Obama had HIS background check for president yet?
What a brazen power grab from the People this is..it is tied in with Obamacare..answer the questions or die.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Illinois Mom, 1/16/2013 2:23:48 PM     (No. 9120413)

Sorry...I don´t know where all that empty space came from.


Reply 21 - Posted by: Ret.TxLeo, 1/16/2013 2:29:53 PM     (No. 9120429)

Spin, spin, spin and spend, spend, spend. It´s a spending problem stupid.


Reply 22 - Posted by: OhMy, 1/16/2013 2:38:57 PM     (No. 9120447)

I love the picture on Drudge of Obama dressed up as a doctor. A lot of these Exec Orders are changes to Obamacare. Cartoonists NB... Hey Doc I don´t feel well what should I do... Answer: fill in this form. Do you have any Guns at home?


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: msjena, 1/16/2013 2:49:51 PM     (No. 9120474)

To those with children in school: are you seriously worried about gun violence affecting your child? I´m not. These shootings are isolated incidents carried out by mentally ill people. Would any of these new measures have prevented this shooting? I think not. The guns were legally-owned and registered. How would more gun control of the type they are talking about prevent a mentally ill son from stealing his mother´s legally-owned guns?


Reply 24 - Posted by: Quigley, 1/16/2013 3:42:24 PM     (No. 9120589)

Only $500 M "for the children"?

Why not $5 Trillion? Doesn´t he "care"?


Reply 25 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 1/16/2013 3:46:39 PM     (No. 9120600)

So it was YOU, #20!


Reply 26 - Posted by: Udanja99, 1/16/2013 4:14:35 PM     (No. 9120640)

Remember when Bush was excoriated for mentioning 9/11 in a campaign speech? Remember the outrage in the media at his politicizing a tragedy? Where is the GOP?

Perhaps it´s time for patriotic Americans to "occupy" DC.


Reply 27 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/16/2013 4:26:47 PM     (No. 9120657)

After reading all of the executive orders the only thing I´m worried about is the future of the GOP: there is nothing in there that infringes on the rights of the second amendment and if the GOP continues to lie to the public and/or act like the sky is falling whenever Dear Leader does something, they will lose all credibility. The GOP used to be the rational, sober party. Now it´s full of hysterical bomb throwers.


Reply 28 - Posted by: Mazeman, 1/16/2013 5:09:28 PM     (No. 9120747)

#28 You´re conveniently ignoring what he charged congress to accomplish. THAT list *is* an infringement, and the Republicans who don´t see that will be much more responsible for the death of the GOP than is the NRA.


Reply 29 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 1/16/2013 5:54:09 PM     (No. 9120846)

We´d all be better off if the $500 million were to be dedicated to getting the psychotics in our midst into institutions. If romantic liberals in the "caring professions" hadn´t pushed for the deinstitutionalizing of crazies, there would have been no Aurora, no VMI, no Tucson and no Sandy Hook.

But I suppose they´re useful tools for the gun haters.


Reply 30 - Posted by: franq, 1/16/2013 5:57:18 PM     (No. 9120853)

Your tax dollars hard at work.


Reply 31 - Posted by: grampstosix, 1/16/2013 6:50:25 PM     (No. 9120960)

#30 You are exactly right. Guns don´t kill people. People kill people.You could take away all the guns and the psychos among us would still be able to kill a lot of people by many other means.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 1/16/2013 7:35:26 PM     (No. 9121054)

Requiring background checks for the sale of private arms is nothing more than the govt initiating and maintaining a database of gun ownership.

It´s forced registration.

I will NOT do that. We must resist.

If you want to buy a gun from me and have cash and an ID, you got it. Big Bro can go pound sand.

Unfortunately, I don´t have any guns. I lost all my guns in the flood, the hurricane, the tornado, a burglary, and those that I did manage to save were sold by my ex-wife while I was in jail in Mexico. So I now live in a gun free zone.

Hope your gun situation is better than mine.


Reply 33 - Posted by: strike3, 1/16/2013 7:41:57 PM     (No. 9121065)

When has obama ever had justification for anything he has done? We need not look for a reason because there is none. We can blame ourselves and our no-guts congress for standing by and watching him act like dictator of the world. An all out gun grab will be more difficult than an information exchange since his people will be trampling on the constitution while we defend it. Now there´s justification fer ya.


Reply 34 - Posted by: Momma Walton, 1/16/2013 7:47:59 PM     (No. 9121083)

Best reason for homeschooling!

Time to get back to basics.

What with so much on computers today, they could all be taught at home.

The teachers are so liberal today it is more an indoctrination class they are attending!

When life deals you a lemon- make lemonade!


Reply 35 - Posted by: foggybottom, 1/16/2013 8:34:56 PM     (No. 9121166)

All this brings to mind a big problem. Isn´t requiring a photo ID to purchase a gun taking away second amendment rights from minorities?


Reply 36 - Posted by: get er done, 1/16/2013 8:36:34 PM     (No. 9121167)

The $500 million would be better spent for health care for those who truly cannot afford health care and are unable to work.

The school districts have budgets to hire armed guards and those who fail to, do so at their own peril.

Where does the $500 million price tag come from?


Reply 37 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 1/16/2013 8:37:40 PM     (No. 9121171)

I got a laugh out of EO #12:

"provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations".

Give...me...a...break. What´s a school principal going to do, confront a mentally ill shooter, make a pistol shape with his index finger and thumb, point it at the criminal and say, make my day, Jack?

You can tell these EO´s are garbage and coming from Bite Me´s meetings.


Reply 38 - Posted by: ricktutt, 1/16/2013 9:02:31 PM     (No. 9121209)

We have to start thinking outside of the box. How about a million man & woman march on Washington. If the blacks can do so can we. Desperate times call for desperate actions! We have to take our country back!


Reply 39 - Posted by: Truth Czar, 1/16/2013 9:22:07 PM     (No. 9121231)

Barry´s looking more and more like his daddy... Frank Marshall Davis. Liberal, progressive, socialist, communist, jacka$$--none can accurately describe Barry´s contempt for America, Americans, and our Constitution.


Reply 40 - Posted by: ArtieC, 1/16/2013 9:22:46 PM     (No. 9121232)

Ban guns and only outlaws will have guns. This too, is true.


Reply 41 - Posted by: ArtieC, 1/16/2013 9:25:35 PM     (No. 9121234)

Retry: When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. That´s what I tried to say.
Btw. No. 2 is the thread winner.


Reply 42 - Posted by: peterfleming, 1/16/2013 9:47:15 PM     (No. 9121261)

It´s almost as if the horrifying shootings were a necessary event to trigger the mass media single story campaign to increase controls over private ownership of weapons.


Reply 43 - Posted by: dvc, 1/18/2013 12:07:44 PM     (No. 9124471)

Universal background checks means banning private sales and this is GUN REGISTRATION. Registration lists are only used to confiscate.

I agree with #6. WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM? The House has to pass all spending bills, and this needs to be specifically blocked.

The Demonrat ´innovation´ of NO BUDGETS means NO Congressional control. More power to the POTUS, who already thinks he is king.



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Susan Patton, the Princeton alumna who became famous for her letter urging Ivy League women to use their college years to find a mate, has been denounced as a traitor to feminism, to coeducation, to the university ideal. But really she’s something much more interesting: a traitor to her class. Her betrayal consists of being gauche enough to acknowledge publicly a truth that everyone who’s come up through Ivy League culture knows intuitively —

Beyonce, Jay-Z celebrate 5th
anniversary in Havana, Cuba

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Los Angeles Times, by Nardine Saad    Original Article
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Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for


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