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Common ground on guns
Washington Post, by Tim Kaine
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Posted By:grandpa, 1/15/2013 4:25:19 PM
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| Our nation faces a fundamental question in the aftermath of the tragedy in Newtown, Conn. If gun violence is a problem -- and U.S. citizens overwhelmingly think that it is -- will our leaders act quickly and wisely to reduce gun deaths? (Snip) Those who say it´s only about gun limitations should know that Virginia´s experience has shown the importance of enhanced criminal penalties, greater access to mental-health services and campus security protocols.
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Some common sense from this new democratic Senator. He seems open to the possible impact of drug using psychotics on school shootings, as the motivator behind the guns.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
blunderbuss, 1/15/2013 4:31:43 PM (No. 9118388)
Common ground on gun control=giving gun control extremists everything they want without argument.
Liberals idea of fair and balanced debate=shutting up and just letting the liberals talk.
Have a nice day. ;-)
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Rafter, 1/15/2013 4:36:48 PM (No. 9118400)
If you act quickly, you probably won´t act wisely.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Jethro bo, 1/15/2013 4:40:49 PM (No. 9118406)
Once again he talks about ´closing loophole´ about background checks at gun shows. The problem isn´t loopholes, the problem is background checks. How well have the worked in, oh, say, Chicago? Detroit? It wasn´t a ´loophole´ until the Feds decided that more intel was needed to track law abiding citizens. It isn´t about decreasing crimes with guns (that continues despite background checks. The loophole is the in the thinking from liberals and Dems that control law abiding citizens will somehow decrease the crime committed by criminals.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Ribicon, 1/15/2013 4:41:04 PM (No. 9118408)
Democrat lies sprinkled throughout. This one´s clever, FTA:
"In Richmond, reform was about taking steps to reduce the unusually high gun-carry rate among our citizens. Too many folks were carrying guns as if they were a casual accessory. And when trouble arose, guns would too often be used as the solution, leading to a stubbornly high rate of aggravated assaults and murders in our city."
The implication is that carry permit holders were committing the crimes. If true, that would run contrary to statistics everywhere else in the US, which show permit holders are highly unlikely to commit crimes.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
spincut, 1/15/2013 4:41:41 PM (No. 9118411)
How about this: instead of putting more restrictions on law abiding gun owners (the ones who will obey gun laws); let´s go after criminals. Let´s authorize a new program that will have regular "visitations" of armed agents on the homes, cars, and persons of ex-cons and probationers and people awaiting trial: the people who shouldn´t have guns. Bet this would radically cut gun crimes.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NYbob, 1/15/2013 4:44:02 PM (No. 9118418)
The common ground is millions of sheeple want you to be unarmed, just like them. The sheeple cheer for a government that can do anything it wants to you. They are masochistic cowards who embrace the totalitarians boot and put it on their own neck. They hate anyone who resists that idea. Democrats everywhere nurture this kind of voter.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
JAN, 1/15/2013 4:50:28 PM (No. 9118429)
The left suggests we don´t have a right to self defense. That we should depend upon them to protect us.
NO THANK YOU
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
fljack, 1/15/2013 4:54:16 PM (No. 9118441)
Very clever lies, indeed,,,from the first sentence "If gun violence is a problem -- and U.S. citizens overwhelmingly think that it is"...
Where does he get his "overwhelmingly" junk from?
Liars.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Pam, 1/15/2013 4:58:21 PM (No. 9118454)
Start with a false premise, end with a false solution. Typical.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
JDD, 1/15/2013 5:03:37 PM (No. 9118469)
Wanna strike a blow for sanity? Help protect our national "leaders". Sign a petition to make the white house, etc. Gun-Free Zones. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-armed-guards-president-vice-president-and-their-families-and-establish-gun-free-zones/6RDGkxLK?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Bobn.T, 1/15/2013 5:10:49 PM (No. 9118496)
Ever notice that airports are NOT gun free zones. Guns and police are everywhere. Nobody gets shot.
Ever notice that court houses are NOT gun free zones. Guns and police are everywhere. Nobody gets shot.
Ever notice that police stations are NOT gun free zones. Guns and police are everywhere. Nobody gets shot.
Ever notice that athletic stadiums are NOT gun free zones. Guns and police are everywhere. Nobody gets shot.
Ever notice that colleges and schools are gun free zones. Guns and police are NOWHERE - and people get attacked and shot by wackos.
Make any sense?
Ever notice that during hunting seasons nationwide, no hunters are ever attacked, robbed, or shot? Why not? Because they are armed with guns.
Guns = public protection as well as protection from tyrannical governments.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
jimK1, 1/15/2013 5:14:01 PM (No. 9118504)
Another communist trying to deceive the people. Too many will fall for it.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Mai Bad, 1/15/2013 5:19:02 PM (No. 9118515)
Yo...yo...Little Timmy is full of CRAPOLA!!!! Before Cho gunned down the unarmed students, Virginia was 48th out of 50 states (second from the bottom) in mental health spending. After Cho gunned down the unarmed students, Virginia is STILL 48th out of 50 states on mental health spending. So a**hole Timmy and the rest of the Neandethals in the Virginia Government have done NOTHING to help treat and ID potential nuts with guns. They just passsed some feel good reporting reforms that cost NO money!!!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Mai Bad, 1/15/2013 5:20:06 PM (No. 9118518)
Yo..yo...a**hole Timmy put Yo money where Yo mouth is!!!!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
LouD, 1/15/2013 5:25:47 PM (No. 9118529)
Where does he get his "overwhelmingly" junk from? asks #8. Well, like all democraps, he just makes them up to suit his agenda. They never let facts get in their way.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
TexasHillCountry, 1/15/2013 6:18:52 PM (No. 9118627)
One thing that Virginia did do several years ago was to get the feds (US Attorney for Virginia) involved in enforcing existing gun laws re:felons in possession of a firearm. The fed cooperated and prosecuted in federal court with federal penalties, perps with felony records and arrested by local LEOs while packing. The perps quickly got the idea that there would be no plea bargains with the feds, just hard time. Many, many stopped carrying heat BEFORE they got caught. And the federal charges were on top of any state or local penalties.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
capt scurvey, 1/15/2013 6:22:47 PM (No. 9118636)
Gun control will make us safer if we´re predatory criminals and/or jackbooted government thugs.
The rest of us? Not so much...
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
dvc, 1/15/2013 8:35:19 PM (No. 9118853)
". . SHALL NOT be infringed."
Mixed truth and lies. When an honest citizen legally carrys a gun, it is not as a casual accessory, but as a serious tool to oppose evil men, if it becomes necessary.
The backgound check "loophole" is total BS. Criminals do NOT undergo background checks, they steal or buy illegally.
From 1776 to 1968, a gun was as regulated as a loaf of bread and crime was generally low. Gun control has an INVERSE correlation with crime. More gun control = more crime.
ALWAYS.
I challenge anyone to find any place where increased gun control actually lowered the crime rate.
In all the 40+ states where CCW laws have been reformed, increasing guns being carried by honest citizens has provably LOWERED the crime rate. Hoplophobes are mentally ill and cannot accept even overwhelming evidence that their "facts" are WRONG.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
MickTurn, 1/15/2013 9:14:47 PM (No. 9118891)
This is the latest ´crisis´ the Libs are trying to use to confiscate weapons...if it works so well why is Chicago murder capital of the US?
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