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Biden: W.H. eyeing 19
executive actions on guns

Politico, by Reid J. Epstein

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Posted By:drive, 1/15/2013 7:20:10 AM

The White House has identified 19 executive actions for President Barack Obama to move unilaterally on gun control, Vice President Joe Biden told a group of House Democrats on Monday, the administration’s first definitive statements about its response to last month’s mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Later this week, Obama will formally announce his proposals to reduce gun violence, which are expected to include renewal of the assault weapons ban, universal background checks and prohibition of high-capacity magazine clips. But Biden,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Janjan, 1/15/2013 7:26:46 AM     (No. 9117143)

None of the measures they are talking about would prevent another school massacre. This is the foundation for the gun grab the liberals have been planning for years. They are very patient.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mazeman, 1/15/2013 7:28:37 AM     (No. 9117145)

Can´t pass through legislation, so do it through edict.

This is when states need to take a stand.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: qr4j, 1/15/2013 7:29:16 AM     (No. 9117148)

There have been other mass shootings in Obama´s first term. Of course, he would not propose gun control before his re-election campaign lest that become an issue that would stir up opposition.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Tgoggin, 1/15/2013 7:30:39 AM     (No. 9117150)

NRA membership fixin to quadruple

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Reply 5 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds, 1/15/2013 7:33:16 AM     (No. 9117154)

So when is the MSM going to start complaining about Our Dear Readers ´Imperial White House´ that is circumventing the ´Rule of Law´ and the Constitution?

Don´t expect a peek from the MSM!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: javaboy, 1/15/2013 7:42:09 AM     (No. 9117168)

fta: “It was all focusing on enforcing existing law, administering things like improving the background database, things like that that do not involve a change in the law but enforcing and making sure that the present law is administered as well as possible,” said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).


So long as the executive orders only enforce existing law, then they really can´t be challenged. But how many people really expect the orders won´t stretch or break existing laws -- or more likely create laws where there were none before?

The worst part is, that it really won´t matter to the next bunch of innocent people trapped in a gun-free zone with some nutcase who ignores laws anyway.


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Reply 7 - Posted by: tgfrr, 1/15/2013 8:02:20 AM     (No. 9117209)

As I have understood the process for quite awhile, please let me elaborate. To make a new law a bill has to be introduced in the House first and voted on by a majority of the representatives. Then it proceeds to the Senate where an exactly similar worded bill must be passed by a majority of the Senate. It then proceeds to the president who either agrees and signs it or disagrees and vetos it. If that is in the affirmative then we have a genuine new law. An executive order does not follow this process so it is not a directive that I intend to follow.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 1/15/2013 8:26:47 AM     (No. 9117253)

IMHO, this is all theater for the one objective that will lead to confiscation in the future. The Dems know they can not pass anything so they will push for the REASONABLE requirement for universal background checks, which is the precursor for a NATIONAL DATABASE. Then they can come and get them.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: iamtinman, 1/15/2013 8:33:26 AM     (No. 9117265)

Don´t believe for a second that these actions are anything but a smokescreen for some other Obama sneak attack! If he can do them that´s just icing on the Obama cake! In the meantime Benghazi is dying down, there is no furor over the real cost of Obamacare and no public outcry over the clowns he´s nominating for his cabinet! Joe Biden has got to be furious that he has to keep doing the presidents job while Barack spends his time on the golf course or on a basketball court.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 1/15/2013 8:35:36 AM     (No. 9117271)

The CENTER for DISEASE CONTROL, has a very specific mission, which does not include delving into politics. They are funded by the House for their specific mission.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: alaskaal, 1/15/2013 8:52:55 AM     (No. 9117312)

NO.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Screwgun, 1/15/2013 9:00:54 AM     (No. 9117328)

They had an hour line to get into a gun show in Manchester last weekend. It was like Black Friday. Any sign of growth in the economy this quarter will be in the firearms industry.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/15/2013 9:16:21 AM     (No. 9117362)

We demand that Obama and Biden prove that any action they plan will prevent school massacres and gun violence..
PROVE IT.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rinktum, 1/15/2013 9:19:16 AM     (No. 9117367)

Obama is pushing hard to incite violence. It is what he wants and who he is. He knows once things turn violent, he can bring the full force and weight of the government down on the perpetrators. Otherwise why would he be so confrontational? He could have had an reasonable conversation with the American people on the subject of gun violence, but he wanted to stir the pot. Things are going just as he planned. He needs us divided and at each others throats to further his agenda. It is a simple strategy, divide and conquer.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: stryker714, 1/15/2013 9:35:55 AM     (No. 9117407)

One has to wonder, considering the socialist agenda, if the DC commies won´t move against and ban private property, if they succeed in a gun grab. It´s supposedly a part of Agenda 21. With all the money we owe China, bamster could carve up the whole US and give it to them through the UN for compensation. Foreclosure is foreclosure.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Bumblebee, 1/15/2013 10:36:48 AM     (No. 9117540)

Number 16 may be correct. The president is either knowingly or miserably inept, and may incite violence.
Makes one think of Iran who believes their savior will only come to conquor the world for their religion after catastrophic destruction. And they think they are bringing it about by their actions.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Butch59, 1/15/2013 10:45:55 AM     (No. 9117554)

If the information in this article is correct, then all the actions cited here will do absolutely nothing to stop or deminish mass violence and school shootings. How many criminals and mentality deranged people have been denied a gun over the past 30 or 40 yrs? I´d bet a bent nickel that that number is VERY small. The overwhelming owners of firearms are peaceful, law abiding citizens. And all they want is to be left alone to live their lives as THEY choose to do.

I have to agree that the long term goal here is to overturn the 2nd Amendment in any way they can. The reason is simple. An armned citizenry is impossible to defeat. You must first disarm the citizens to be able to take over a country. Re-read the history of the communist takeover of Russia. Their way of disarming the citizens was to round them up and shoot them. Mass murder. I really don´t think that will happen here because I don´t believe our military will fire on it´s own people. But in any case, we must constantly be on alert.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/15/2013 10:53:28 AM     (No. 9117574)

How about an Executive Order banning Executive Orders? Congress and the SCOTUS are our last firewall.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/15/2013 10:57:40 AM     (No. 9117580)

Sorry for the second post but let´s not fool ourselves into believing this is for the children. Obama is attempting to disarm his opposition.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: hoosiergirl71, 1/15/2013 11:21:29 AM     (No. 9117646)

Obama may view himself as supreme, but this is a Republic and states rule over the federal gov. The Constitution cannot be changed except as the majority of states vote to do so. THAT´S not going to happen. We must not let ourselves be pressured into giving up any right by something as tenuous as Executive Orders which cannot change anything fundamental. Cling to your Bibles, guns and state constitutions and stand your ground! And God bless America!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Hotrod, 1/15/2013 12:15:46 PM     (No. 9117789)

When a president attempts to defeat the checks and balances of the other branches of government, by trying to use executive orders, he is nothing more than a wannabe dictator! I don´t think most democrats would want that. The far, wacky, left is OK with it, until a Republican gets the White House...

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Reply 22 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 1/15/2013 1:11:40 PM     (No. 9117923)

I am repeating myself only because I know that the Dems cannot pass anything through the congress. For that reason they will put forth REASONABLE ideas like UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, embedded in this will be provision for a NATIONAL DATABASE. After the dust settles another tragedy will happen in another GUN FREE ZONE, after which the Dems will enact more REASONABLE rules eliminating guns from CERTAIN households, then the NATIONAL DATABASE will be used to pick up the guns from certain people, a list which will expand quickly, till they have enough that the population is DISARMED.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: pinkpanther, 1/15/2013 2:11:08 PM     (No. 9118063)

It´s going to get interesting folks, we have some of the world´s best hackers on our side. When Anonymous says they are going after you, take heed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZhHyA9z_vI

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Reply 24 - Posted by: EQKimball, 1/15/2013 4:56:12 PM     (No. 9118447)

Think this is bad? Just wait until his administration´s orders regulating talk radio and the Internet.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: pineledger, 1/15/2013 7:03:44 PM     (No. 9118727)

Better not, BO.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: ArtieC, 1/15/2013 7:28:10 PM     (No. 9118759)

How many laws did Lanza break before he even stepped outside the front door of his mother´s house? He was at best a thief and at worst a murderer.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: deaddog, 1/15/2013 7:36:50 PM     (No. 9118775)

If I hear any politician or media hack say,"high-capacity clip","magazine clip" or "gun clip" one more time, my head is going to explode! They are called "magazines". A clip is something a little girl puts in her hair.
How can one try to ban something that doesn´t exist? The ignorant MSM is so oblivious to this because they don´t use or know a dang thing about those scary guns. Pathetic.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: bigken2, 1/15/2013 7:50:53 PM     (No. 9118794)

a man that revals in the murder of children every day doesnt give a dam obout children

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Reply 29 - Posted by: MickTurn, 1/15/2013 9:33:31 PM     (No. 9118914)

Texas has already told them to go to Hades...


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