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Quentin Tarantino and his films
are part of the problem

Deseret News [Utah], by Jim Bennett

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Posted By:Stallion_Cornell, 1/11/2013 2:40:57 PM

I’ve had a number of odd jobs in my time, but one of the oddest was when I worked as a profanity counter. As I recounted in an earlier column, I used to get paid to sit through movies and chronicle all the naughty bits. (Snip) After recording 273 utterances of the most notorious R-rated profanity in the movie "Reservoir Dogs," I decided that I would never again voluntarily subject myself to another flick written or directed by Quentin Tarantino.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Rafter, 1/11/2013 2:58:51 PM     (No. 9111239)

Pulp Fiction, directed also by QT, was garbage.

Siskel and Ebert (obviously, back in the day) raved about it.
That´s when I realized that Roger Ebert was nuts and a fruitcake.

Never saw, and never will, Reservoir Dogs.

Much from Hollywood is overrated, overhyped garbage.
And unfortunately, impressionable kids will act out the crap they see.
There are many instances of this happening.
Hollyweirdoes cannot admit the truth, ever.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: LittleHoodedMonk, 1/11/2013 3:01:03 PM     (No. 9111241)

OK. I´ll say it again. Having seen the movie, I liked it. It was purely adult fantasy of a time that both director and actor´s "assumed" was correct. It was well written, acted, directed and I especially liked the cinematography. Even the sound track helped move the over 2 1/2 hour movie along.

Is this for most? No. But many flocked to see "Reservoir Dogs," "Pulp Fiction," "From Dusk to Dawn," "Jackie Brown," etc. He also help bring one of my most favorite movies, story & visuals, "Hero," with Jet Li, to America.

I may not like him personally [like Woody Allen], but I will continue to view and appreciate his movies. Also, with the looming specter of war in the Middle East starting and our fights over Executive Privilege with 0bama, we need to toughen up and be prepared. Whether a violent video game or movie, our senses need to be ready for the shock of what definitely lies ahead for the next four years.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: CecilStrange, 1/11/2013 3:02:55 PM     (No. 9111249)

Not buying today Jim.

I liked the movie as I did all the others.

I hold Tarantino harmless. Movies don´t kill people.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rubberneck, 1/11/2013 3:08:05 PM     (No. 9111254)

"part of the problem."

What is "the problem"? I s´pose that should be defined first.

If "the problem" is a society that has been desensitized to violence, then violent movies are part of the problem.

If, on the other hand, "the problem" is criminals shooting innocent bystanders, then it seems simplistic to deflect the blame to movies. Plenty of gun owners don´t shoot people with their guns, and plenty of Tarantino fans also resist that compulsion.

("Pulp Fiction" is a personal favorite. Just goes to show ya. But I wouldn´t want my 6-year-old granddaughter to be exposed to it.)

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Reply 5 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 1/11/2013 3:40:38 PM     (No. 9111315)

#2, I can read my Bible and prepare myself for that.

It seems to result in more of a desensitization and hardening of the coarseness of the culture than a ´toughening up´ to battle against such things.

It still shocks me to hear curse words coming from the mouths of otherwise attractive young girls engaged in conversations with their peers in restaurants and stores. Some of them throw around the "F" word without batting an eye, as though it is the most natural thing in the world to them. They don´t seem a bit restrained by the presence of elderly or children.



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Reply 6 - Posted by: MOBeef4u, 1/11/2013 3:45:21 PM     (No. 9111320)

Add me to the list of Tarantino fans. Add "Kill Bill" Vols. 1&2 to the list as well.
These are adult films. I suspect way more Tarantino fans haven´t gone on killing sprees than have.
Are we going to add Roadrunner cartoons,as well? Wile E. Coyote used all manner of objects to try to wreak havoc on the bird.
And I distinctly remember Daffy Duck getting his bill blown off.
Less scapegoating and more perp prosecution might be in order.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/11/2013 4:07:54 PM     (No. 9111354)

I agree, Jim. Folks, it is not just violence that is the problem--it is the KIND of violence....the abject gore, the glorifying of thug & criminal behavior, the psychological perversion within the storylines, etc. It´s much MORE than roadrunner cartoon stuff or the old WWII movies (which are harmless). It is movies showing someone slowly sawing off body parts with flesh pieces & blood in clear view which the character then eats noisily; or bullets being sprayed & convulsing bodies writhing in horrific pain as blood gushes profusely all over; or guts hanging out & some sick pervert smears them all over their body; or even, yes, Tarantino movies with constant plotting & killing by bad guys who never get caught or are considered the "hero" even though they are a hit person. People didn´t do mass murders like they do now back in the 30´s, 40´s & 50´s, when we had standards. Tell me now there is NO affect on SOME people! And yes, I believe it affects all of us at some level. We ARE products of our environment

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mre, 1/11/2013 4:12:21 PM     (No. 9111364)

You go, Quentin!

Reservoir Dogs - Freshman effort, not his best, and the vulgar dialogue and joke at beginning almost had me turn it off.

Jackie Brown - Pretty good.

Pulp Fiction - Brilliant on all counts, except for Tarantino´s appearance/scene.

Kill Bill - Very good movies, though I´ve only watched them once. That really was a Hattori Hanzo sword.

Inglourious B------ - Great, great movie. Made Christoph Waltz a U.S. movie star, and deservedly so.

Django Unchained - Good, but not great. It was overlong, and the dialogue scenes weren´t as good as IB. This was his first film on which his editor, Sally Menke (died 2010) did not work, and it shows. A re-edited cut would improve it greatly.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: gagolfer, 1/11/2013 4:13:03 PM     (No. 9111366)

These movies are shown worldwide not just in the U.S. And there are mentally ill worldwide. Yet it is only here where we have the large number of deaths using a gun such as these mass murders in schools and malls. Why is that?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/11/2013 4:18:52 PM     (No. 9111378)

It takes two things to allow a nut case to take out an elementary school - or a movie theater, etc.

1. The necessary hardware - which in the case of the school massacre could have been done with something as simple as a machete.

2. The necessary idea - that mass murder is a doable - even an exciting thing. Tarantino is not alone as a major provider of mass-murder fantasies (there are a lot of B-movie directors who do the same) - but he is the only one I know of who is lionized by the left - and even some on the right.

Personally, I find QT´s stuff pretty juvenile - devoid of subtle adult dialogue - but I guess that´s the idea. He channels our inner teenage boy. I did however, really enjoy Lucy Liu´s entourage entrance into the Japanese restaurant in Kill Bill part One. Beyond that I definitely prefer her role in ´Elementary´, where the main characters display adult intelligence.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: lzboy, 1/11/2013 4:19:46 PM     (No. 9111383)

Who cares?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: msjena, 1/11/2013 4:28:56 PM     (No. 9111403)

Tarantino does trash very well. That is why there is such a split of opinion on him. Personally, I don´t want to see someone´s brains blown out, no matter how cool Uma Thurman and John Travolta were doing that dance.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LamontCranston, 1/11/2013 4:32:33 PM     (No. 9111412)

We still have NO IDEA what set off the Sandy Hook shooter. He may have never even SEEN a QT movie for all we know!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bullhead, 1/11/2013 4:43:57 PM     (No. 9111426)

In the eyes of Hollywood, nothing is sacred. The vulgar, foul, language is Hollywood´s and popular culture´s continuing work to desecrate all things hallowed.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 1/11/2013 5:05:19 PM     (No. 9111454)

I consider myself having a pretty open mind. I didn´t think "Reservoir Dogs" and "Pulp Fiction" were that bad at all. However, both were 2.5 star movies at best, time-killer adult fare. They were not great films, and I gotta laugh that some film schools study Pulp Fiction. Just amazing.

After hearing all the fan fare, I watched Kill Bill 1 and 2 back to back. Everything that is wrong with these films, preposterous, overlong, illogical, nonsensical, ripped off from other films, sagging, boring, talky, and all the rest, are cited as GOOD things about the films.

The book for me on QT closed with Inglorious Ba$terds, which really is trash with a thin chocolate coating.

I am reminded of a sadly truthful film out a few years ago, called "Idiocracy", which portrayed a movie called "Ass", which was nothing but one continuous shot of a man´s buttocks, and the audience was just roaring and quite entertained.

It would have been complete if there was a credit for QT on it.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 1/11/2013 7:34:48 PM     (No. 9111647)

Won´t see django because of the foot in mouth disease of Jamie foxx. I loved Ray but I´m done with Foxx movies.

That being said QT movies are great but not for all. Rated R not PG 13. I do resent QT overuse of the N word.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: smcchk, 1/11/2013 8:12:38 PM     (No. 9111692)

Good advice, Jim!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 1/11/2013 10:00:39 PM     (No. 9111808)

I´m with #4:

"What is ´the problem´? I s´pose that should be defined first."

We´re not going to come up with a reasonable solution until we are able to decide what the problem is. The anti-gun folks want to ban guns. The anti-violence folks want to blame movies. Others want to blame the lack of mental health care.

Before we can determine who (if anyone) has the answer, we ought to try to figure out what exactly is wrong, first.


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Reply 19 - Posted by: Newtsche, 1/12/2013 12:10:22 AM     (No. 9111924)

The violent deaths of "deserving" people is the common tie that binds all Tarantino movies. His gift for understanding the cinematic art notwithstanding, Tarantino has a troubled mind. If Kramer was a hipster doofus, QT is a hipster creep. For all his trappings of "cool", look at him, he ain´t.



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Reply 20 - Posted by: PChristopher, 1/12/2013 1:57:47 PM     (No. 9112874)

Tarantino is an absolute, self-centered tool. I cannot stand his movies and I wish he´d find a 6-foot deep hole and curl up.

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