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Rep. Gingrey: Todd Akin ´partly
right´ about rape and pregnancy

The Hill [Washington, DC], by Sam Baker

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/11/2013 1:36:47 PM

Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) said former Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) was "partly right" when he made controversial comments that women cannot become pregnant from a rape. Akin, then the Republican Senate nominee in Missouri, said a woman cannot become pregnant from a "legitimate rape" because the female body can "shut that whole thing down." Gingrey, who is an OB-GYN, said in a town-hall meeting that Akin was partially correct, according to a report in the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal. Gingrey said a rush of adrenaline can prevent the female body from ovulating —

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When will Republicans ever learn to keep their mouths shut?? They constantly give Democrats material to castigate them. It´s just stunning.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: plex, 1/11/2013 1:41:24 PM     (No. 9111065)

So, even if what Akin said was true, you want him to shut up. How about truth about global warming, gun safety?

I am not saying Aikin spoke truth or not, I just want some idea of how far self censorship should go. We know that Democrats lie like rugs and get away with it. They can´t handle the truth. (see Bill Clinton´s recent whopper about mass shootings and the assault weapon ban).

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Reply 2 - Posted by: killerbee, 1/11/2013 1:48:26 PM     (No. 9111082)

Well, this seat will go to a Democrat now. This information isn´t even relevant to anything. Just because there may be some hindering effect (I think that´s probably highly debatable) from one´s biology, doesn´t mean that it has anything to do with anything these people need to be talking about.

Are we to presume there has never been a pregnancy from forced rape because the reproductive organs would shut down? So anyone who does get pregnant from a violent rape can feel ashamed that she was not "legitimately" raped. The pregnancy proves it. Duh.

Akin was not partly right (what is this, Politifact?), he was all wrong. Pointless to even engage this stupidity when we´ve got huge problems in so many other areas. Akin is not someone anyone should blow their credibility on. He was an indefensible, arrogant, egomaniac and he deserved to lose. Even to corrupt Claire McCaskill.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: hammondb3, 1/11/2013 1:54:43 PM     (No. 9111106)

What´s the big issue here? Either the statement is true or it is false. I would think a medical doctor who specializes in OB-GYN should be respected for shedding light on this.

The fact of the matter is this. We have become so crippled at discussing things in a factual basis when it comes to political correctness. Each time we do this the liberals win.



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Reply 4 - Posted by: civilservant, 1/11/2013 1:55:03 PM     (No. 9111107)

Nope, absolutely NOTHING called a "Spontaneous miscarriage" ....nothing at all.......except in medical books......published studies........medical schools.......

Nope, nothing at all.

Oh, BTW? Todd Akin NEVER said HE believes it, he stated that ´doctors have told him´...but hey, way to go Christie supporters, slamming our own guy before reading his comments!!!

We have met the enemy, and it is US.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Northcross, 1/11/2013 1:57:38 PM     (No. 9111116)

What a dope! Commenting on Akin is like playing Russian Roulette with 5 bullets in the six chambers. At best, nothing happens. At worst... and the odds are not in your favor.



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Reply 6 - Posted by: nathan92083, 1/11/2013 1:58:48 PM     (No. 9111122)

What´s next? Do we have a GOP politician field a question on whether blacks as a race have a lower IQ than whites? Yes it may be factually true but there are some questions you don´t let yourself be trapped into answering.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: smcchk, 1/11/2013 1:59:36 PM     (No. 9111125)

OK, this is an extremely delicate subject but my deceased OB-GYN father-in-law used to cite this often when he gave pro-life talks. But he retired in the 80´s, long before you couldn´t speak the truth about abortion. He never said that conception never happened in cases of rape, only that it was rare.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: graniteman2009, 1/11/2013 2:00:02 PM     (No. 9111126)

Anoter idiot heard from. Did someone lower the IQ of all of the members of the GOP?

Seriously stupid.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/11/2013 2:01:45 PM     (No. 9111129)

Drop it already.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: OhMy, 1/11/2013 2:13:36 PM     (No. 9111152)

Aiken was a poor candidate for not having a good answer ready for this question. You should expect this question and have a good answer ready. Aiken failed at this basic requirement. The medical validity of this is a different question which the OB GYN was talking about. Aiken doesn´t need to be wrong to be foolish to even try to deal with such a subject. He really stepped in it using the words "legitimate rape". A gaff like that is only forgiven if you are a RAT.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: DanvilleBill, 1/11/2013 2:19:33 PM     (No. 9111166)

Brilliant Dr. Gingrey!!
Let´s keep this splendid narrative going. Maybe we can use it again as a winning tactic in 2014 and, if we play our cards right, we can even use it to take us over the finish line in 2016.

Here´s a winning ticket.
Akin and Gingey in 2016!!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Mass Minority, 1/11/2013 2:21:20 PM     (No. 9111171)

Here is that little word that gets us in so much trouble, "truth". The question being asked is not "is it biologically possible that rape trauma prevents some pregnancies?" the question being asked is "What do you say to a women who has just been raped?´

While the trauma interfering with pregnancy factoid may be true, its certainly not what one talks about in the context of a rape victims ordeal. The idiot GOP´ers who seem unable to resist taking this bait deserve to lose.

The cardinal rule in any hostile interrogatio, whether it be a slimy lawyer cross examining you in court or an "unbiased" reporter talking off the record is "Answer the question that is asked, not the one you think was asked". Sounds simple right, its not. The left will always ask loaded questions, questions where the right answer, the "truth" so to speak can lead only to ridicule.

Thats why when asked about Akins assertion the right answer is that rape is a horrible trauma and that rapists have no place in society. because the reeal question being asked is not "was Akins right about conception" but "Do you agree with Akin that rape is not all that big a deal?"

But apparently republicans will never learn.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: killerbee, 1/11/2013 2:21:22 PM     (No. 9111172)

If it´s not 100% inhibiting to pregnancy then it is not relevant to any discussion these politicians should be engaging in. It´s pointless in any way.

If a baby can be conceived by violent rape then that´s all that matters. Even if it´s rare -- and I don´t think it is. I think it´s only "rare" because people go to a clinic and get the day-after pill to stop the embryo from attaching so there´s no pregnancy. Otherwise, the body will do what the body will do and these guys are doing nothing less than helping to destroy our country (by giving ammo to the Democrats) with their pompous, fumbling windbaggery.

I am not a Christie supporter. I do, however, see the forest as well as the trees.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: minuteman, 1/11/2013 2:25:29 PM     (No. 9111182)

Akin lost because the Rove wing of the republican party vilified him for poorly stating a fact.

Anyone, regardless of party, who want to censor the truth is an enemy to the very principles on which this nation was founded.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: HotRodLincoln, 1/11/2013 2:40:46 PM     (No. 9111209)

I´m an OB-GYN. Stress related anovulation and amenorrhea are well documented. The source of the stress can be something as innocuous as a freshman women going off to college leaving home for the first time or a trauma victim or starvation. Theoretically a violent rape(legitimate) as opposed to a bogus claim of rape made in order to gain abortion services(illegitimate) should they be restricted by law only to victims of rape or incest might be less likely to result in preganancy. That was what the good Georgian doctor-rep was trying to explain to these hyperventilating libtard reporters. That being said Akin was a fool to step into that trap like he did and so inartfully attempt to make a ridiculous point to these mendacious duplicitous reporters. It served no good end and cost us a much needed Senate win.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Susannah, 1/11/2013 2:43:52 PM     (No. 9111210)

#15, Akin lost because he was a jerk. Every other Republican candidate in Missouri won, big time. Every one. Akin got a grand total of 39% of the vote. No vilification necessary.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: olcap, 1/11/2013 2:47:24 PM     (No. 9111216)

It´s not about censorship, it´s about using common sense about what one allows to flow out of their pie hole.

Apparently there are too many republican public figures who can´t grasp that elementary concept.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Penney, 1/11/2013 2:49:15 PM     (No. 9111220)

The GOP but enabled McCaskill(D!) to be reelected by not supporting the candidate chosen by Missouri voters, Todd Akin. We are life-looong GOP voters & supporters but have not contributed to the national level GOP since they cavalierly abandoned Akin to the dems´ media and we do not intend to contribute ever again unless the party returns to supporting the candidates VOTED for in their respective states.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: LKN colonist, 1/11/2013 3:32:52 PM     (No. 9111296)

I don´t care whether it´s a politically smart thing to say or not. When we can no longer speak the truth because some might be upset or offended, we have lost the war. Greive over the possible loss of the Congressional seat. Greive over the death of truth. But don´t demean the man that dares still speak it.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/11/2013 3:36:44 PM     (No. 9111304)

Go start that 3rd party already! Stop staining our party with your stupidity.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/11/2013 3:46:18 PM     (No. 9111323)

We have more than our share of politicians who will not control their mouths. Dems can get away with stupid comments. We cannot. It´s got nothing to do with freedom of speech, but everything to do with thinking before you speak. Akin might have been a good candidate, but he was stupid and then he doubled-down on stupid. Karl Rove was not to blame.

Gingrey should have sidestepped this question, but he´s got a dumb streak too. We´ve forgotten how to be prudent when we talk. We´re going to have to relearn it or we won´t win again.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: killerbee, 1/11/2013 3:53:25 PM     (No. 9111332)

#16: if it´s not something you can count on to be true at least 97% of the time (the percentage for birth control success with condoms), then it´s pointless and has no bearing.

If even a small amount of stress will keep a woman from getting pregnant then why are so many kids born into abusive homes?

It´s not worth a politician/legislator getting into the discussion when it can have no bearing on the actual issue. And these idjits should know that by now.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mitzi, 1/11/2013 4:00:33 PM     (No. 9111347)

Maybe B. O. can issue an Executive Order requiring all rapists to use a condom.

Discussion over. /s

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Reply 24 - Posted by: sunsong, 1/11/2013 4:30:26 PM     (No. 9111404)

How utterly stupid! How nauseatingly ignorant. If these are men who represent the *real* republican party. I want nothing to do with it.

Everyone knows that Muslims and apparently GOP men think *illegitimate* rape is when a women is asking for it. You just can´t get lower than that. Women do NOT ask to be raped. You jerks, and you know who you are - need to shut up!!!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: MHR, 1/11/2013 4:59:21 PM     (No. 9111446)

What an idiot...the seat will go to a Dem next election....

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Reply 26 - Posted by: zoidberg, 1/11/2013 5:03:55 PM     (No. 9111453)

Ron Paul is also an OB-GYN, but he never confirmed Akin´s statement. Scientific disagreement between two physician/legislators?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: LadyVet, 1/11/2013 6:18:17 PM     (No. 9111551)

#24, agree that could be a response to shut up the libtards. I´d also like someone to say that they know nothing about rape; that the reporter should perhaps check with Bill Clinton or Juanita Broadrick.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 1/11/2013 6:36:43 PM     (No. 9111582)

This is how Democrats get away with sexually abusing women (Kennedys, Clinton, etc.), paying them less than their male employees and squawking about the "Republican War on Women". Quotes like this get legs, and stories of what Democrat politicians do most every day to women get no notice. Sigh.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: eorsc, 1/11/2013 9:29:44 PM     (No. 9111766)

Ho hum. Next subject?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: tomishere, 1/12/2013 1:06:27 AM     (No. 9111965)

the religious fanatics will destroy this party. We lost the easiest pick up of the election, because the republicans of Missouri picked a nut to represent them. The primary voters are the ones to blame.

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Pence-Rand Paul ticket

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/8/2014 9:25:30 PM     Post Reply
A founding father of the conservative movement who is now a star among Tea Party activists is urging the GOP to choose a governor to duel Washington “insider” Hillary Clinton for the White House, saying that 2016 isn´t the best time for Sen. Ted Cruz to run. Often called the “funding father” of conservatism for pioneering direct mail fundraising, Richard A. Viguerie believes that the Texas senator is a “game changer” for the movement but that the best way to beat Clinton is with a candidate from outside the beltway. “I don´t think it would be best for the conservative movement for

The incredible hypocrisy of
21st Century feminism

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Jewish World Review, by Alicia Colon    Original Article
Posted By: drive- 4/8/2014 7:37:27 AM     Post Reply
My first published column was in a local paper opposing the Equal Rights Amendment for the same reasons that Phyllis Schlafly, a conservative lawyer, campaigned on. As ambiguously written, the ERA, would eliminate the men-only draft requirement, repeal protective laws like sexual assault and eliminate the tendency for mothers to obtain custody over their children in divorce cases. Ironically, one of the arguments that helped sink the amendment from ratification was the fear that single-sex bathrooms would no longer be permitted. In addition, opponents of the amendment also warned that it would lead to abortion on demand and same-sex marriages.

Firefox Expands Into Censorship
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American Thinker, by Jack Kemp    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/9/2014 9:10:58 AM     Post Reply
This morning I clicked on a link to a Red State website article concerning “The War on Women” and “Paycheck Equality” and got quite a surprise (the same thing happens when a Firefox user goes directly to the article). Nanny Firefox posted a political opinion on my screen before allowing me to proceed to read the article. This message didn’t appear when I accessed a second article which met with Firefox’s political commissar’s approval. Here’s what Firefox said: Careful Now! (shouldn’t they have said “Achtung! or “Verboten!” or something similar?). This website could not be displayed by Firefox because it is not

George Bush´s paintings
are ´copied off Google images
and Wikipedia´ art critic claims

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Independent [UK], by Rob Williams    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 4/9/2014 10:47:55 AM     Post Reply
As a former President of The Most Powerful Country In The World, George W Bush has significantly greater access to world leaders than most budding artists. (Snip) Art critics have pointed out that a number of the 30 portraits in the exhibition appear to be based on images thrown up by a cursory search of the person´s name in Google Images. In some cases the portrait seems to have been based on the very first image result on the search engine. Rather remarkably, even the portrait of his own father, someone who he surely could have asked to sit for him, appears to be based on an Associated Press portrait which appears on the first page of

Bush Aides Push Jeb
To Run For President

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Buzzfeed, by Benny Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: tisHimself- 4/8/2014 6:32:42 AM     Post Reply
More than a hundred Republican Party elders gathered this weekend in Texas to celebrate George H.W. Bush’s legacy. But many of the event’s participants had another, much simpler agenda: launching a Jeb Bush presidential campaign. The two-day festivities featured a widely covered speech by Jeb. And on the sidelines, former Bush retainers were frank about their hopes that the eldest son could save a party the family has led on and off since 1988. “We have a responsibility to make sure Jeb runs,” said longtime Bush adviser Andy Card after the speech. “If Jeb Bush does not run, shame on us.” Card added,


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