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If Obama Picks Hagel
American Spectator, by Aaron Goldstein

Original Article

Posted By:Pluperfect, 1/6/2013 5:09:30 AM

It looks like President Obama will appoint former Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel to be his next Secretary of Defense and could do so as early as Monday. If Obama appoints Hagel then he will once again be telling Israel, “F*#k you.” And why not? For all his antipathy towards Israel, Obama still got more than two thirds of the Jewish vote last year. It tells us that Obama is comfortable with someone who derisively uses the term “Jewish lobby” and “let the Jews pay for it”. It also reminds us that Obama views Israel, not Iran

The Hagel pick makes zero sense. Hagel´s unqualified, even the Pubs hate him, few Dems embrace him, the military fears him. What´s the gain? Is it worth it simply to fling a spitball at Netanyahu? Apparently so.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ocjim, 1/6/2013 6:06:42 AM     (No. 9101094)

Mr. Goldman, sir, your second sentence is gratuitously coarse and distracts and detracts from your arguments. Dial it back a click.

Reply 2 - Posted by: normal user, 1/6/2013 6:23:21 AM     (No. 9101106)

When did Leon Panetta announce his resignation?




Reply 3 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/6/2013 6:36:28 AM     (No. 9101117)

#2, Panetta hasn´t officially announced it, but according to news sources he "has made clear" he will leave before his 75th birthday in June. He´s not Obama´s favorite cabinet member, anyway, because he tries to look after the military rather than following Obama´s wishes.

Reply 4 - Posted by: philsner, 1/6/2013 7:19:10 AM     (No. 9101160)

The truth is frequently "coarse". And the left usually attempts to control the language.
The second sentence is why Obama wants Hagel.

Reply 5 - Posted by: beca, 1/6/2013 7:20:43 AM     (No. 9101165)

i think panetta is retiring.........barry will pick who he wants......remember HE ONE

Reply 6 - Posted by: Janjan, 1/6/2013 7:32:04 AM     (No. 9101179)

I didn´t think Obama´s Cabinet picks could get any worse but it sounds like they are about to.

Reply 7 - Posted by: ruready?, 1/6/2013 7:38:49 AM     (No. 9101190)

Obama hates Israel. Netanyahu is the only person that can control Obama. All you have to do is corner up some terrorists and threaten to kil them and Obama will do anything you say.




Reply 8 - Posted by: jeffreyabigail, 1/6/2013 7:50:08 AM     (No. 9101201)

Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. Most secular, Reform and Conservative Jews under 40 could not find Israel on a map. Abortion rights, gay marriage, and fear of conservative Christians trump everything.

And this is coming from one of a handful of members of a Reform congregation that would outwardly admit voting for Romney.

Reply 9 - Posted by: dittohead, 1/6/2013 8:00:58 AM     (No. 9101219)

Obama has been saying F*&% you to America for the last 4 years.

Reply 10 - Posted by: planetgeo, 1/6/2013 8:07:43 AM     (No. 9101231)

OK, allow me to un-coarsen the accurate metaphor a bit. Hagel in effect is that not-so-subtle middle finger alongside the brow that Obama likes to use in public settings to demonstrate his contempt for his adversaries, such as Israel in this case.

Reply 11 - Posted by: rambo77, 1/6/2013 8:15:32 AM     (No. 9101237)

Between this story and the gun story it looks like Zippy has opened two cans of worms that have the potential to make this a very interesting year. God help us and be with us all.

Reply 12 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/6/2013 8:18:48 AM     (No. 9101241)

The gays have a better chance of stopping Hagel than the Israeli lobby.




Reply 13 - Posted by: Rolfnader, 1/6/2013 8:24:18 AM     (No. 9101249)

Far be it from me to criticize coarseness but that last sentence wherein the writer uses ´Frank´ ,´pleasure´ and ´sweat´ in one sentence makes me want to take a shower.

Reply 14 - Posted by: rplat, 1/6/2013 8:34:36 AM     (No. 9101264)

Hagel is a light weight and a dim bulb and the Republicans need to do everything in their power to send him packing. It will be a disaster if that fool is turned loose on the Pentagon.

Reply 15 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/6/2013 8:48:00 AM     (No. 9101292)

When Obama’s through with the military, there may be no need for a Secretary of Defense.

Reply 16 - Posted by: LZK, 1/6/2013 8:52:31 AM     (No. 9101302)

Ah --- yes -- another incompetent added to the bamboozler administration.....

Pick the most illogical candidate to p@ss off Americans....

See the pattern -- folks????


Reply 17 - Posted by: Rama41, 1/6/2013 8:57:56 AM     (No. 9101311)

If you liked Les Aspin, you´ll love Chuck Hagel.




Reply 18 - Posted by: strike3, 1/6/2013 9:00:56 AM     (No. 9101315)

Anybody who even thinks about putting Barney Frank into a position of power again is not a credible writer. Barney has demonstrated everything that is wrong with Washington. Israel is not the problem in the middle east but it seems that obama is trying to make it one. Typical zero move, redirect the focus from what really should be fixed.

Reply 19 - Posted by: Judith, 1/6/2013 9:01:46 AM     (No. 9101318)

From the few Jewish people I know, they really don´t seem to care what happens to Israel. They don´t even care what happens to the USA. And judging by the last potus election, the majority of people in this country don´t seem to care about what happens to our own country let alone an ally.

Reply 20 - Posted by: congaree53, 1/6/2013 9:06:45 AM     (No. 9101330)

I think it is less about Bibi and more about sticking it to neocon Bill Kristol. Watching Billy boy pout should entertain.

Reply 21 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 1/6/2013 9:07:24 AM     (No. 9101333)

Hagel will be submissive to Obama´s demands. That´s about the only reason he would pick him, with the added bonus that Obama can openly thumb his nose at pretty much anyone now (including the gay lobbyists).

Reply 22 - Posted by: Pearson365, 1/6/2013 9:07:26 AM     (No. 9101334)

Poster Pluperfecf: Your intro could have read:

The Obama presidency makes zero sense. Obama´s unqualified, the Pubs hate him, few Dems embrace him, the military fears him. What´s the gain? Is it worth it simply to fling a spitball at Netanyahu? Apparently so.

Hagel is a distraction, as is the push for gun control, since nomination of Obama´s mirror image takes spotlight off of stagnant economy, deficits and malaise.



Reply 23 - Posted by: Pearson365, 1/6/2013 9:20:12 AM     (No. 9101355)

Panetta lost interest in DoD when word leaked that he used an Air Force jet to commute from his California estate to DC every week. Obama would have objected to this extravagance if Panetta had lived in Las Vegas.

Reply 24 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 1/6/2013 9:31:42 AM     (No. 9101377)

In other words, #22 must be saying that "Barack the Magic Negro" really does have meaning other than in a song.

Reply 25 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 1/6/2013 10:01:05 AM     (No. 9101423)

Zippy plays with his race and racism, rubbing our faces in it when it suits him, retreating from it and letting himself and others take umbrage at it when that works best. The same goes for toying with Israel and taking advantage of the sympathy between American Jews American blacks, as if they´re somehow akin.

Reply 26 - Posted by: Buzzman, 1/6/2013 10:23:52 AM     (No. 9101462)

Obama rules by division. He knows that a Hagel choice is the most divisive he can pick so when the fighting begins and absorbs all of the oxygen around it, he will force through gun control while everyone is distracted.

Reply 27 - Posted by: Starlady, 1/6/2013 10:46:01 AM     (No. 9101491)

I would not be surprised if Obama hits us with more controversial surprises in the next few months. That is how he began his first term, one lambast after another, almost daily. I will never forget.
He plans on tearing this country apart. He wants chaos from sea to shining sea. He is evil personified.

Reply 28 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/6/2013 11:20:42 AM     (No. 9101533)

Hagel is fine by me. He used to be a Republican, I think. He´s a Vet.. It´s not like Barry´s trying to appoint Dennis Kuchinich. The gay mafia doesn´t like him, so that´s a bonus. Barry is essentially entitled to the cabinet he so desires, per the Constitution. What´s all the fuss about? Jews voted for Barry overwhelmingly, so the constant harping on his alleged anti-semitism rings hollow. There are more productive avenues of critique that don´t seem so callow.

Reply 29 - Posted by: aasilver, 1/6/2013 11:32:48 AM     (No. 9101553)

The perfect Sec of Def candidate is a gay Jewish Republican (if there is such a person).

This will pi$$ off Israelis, Arabs, Liberals and Americans as well as the military.

A perfect storm.

Reply 30 - Posted by: Reality, 1/6/2013 11:36:47 AM     (No. 9101564)

Hagel kis the perfect 0blamer pick. He is poised to:
1. Insult Israel
2. Demoralize the pentagon by putting a private in charge. The decorations are purple hearts which although earned the hard way, demonstrate little in the way of military knowledge.
3 . Further the Ayers/0blamer goal of reducing our military to third world status.
4. Cause a battle with republicans who cannot in good consciece vote to confirm an unqualified man who used to be a Republican.
5. Distract from the rael damage the democrats are doing to the country.

Reply 31 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/6/2013 11:42:18 AM     (No. 9101573)

#1 that is exactly what´s being telegraphed

#2 The salient point

Reply 32 - Posted by: Freeloader, 1/6/2013 11:56:18 AM     (No. 9101598)

Disagree with the Canadian born Mr. Goldstein. Former Republican Senator Hagel served our nation and The Free World honorably in Southeast Asia during the war and came away from the conflict with Sergeant stripes and a Purple Heart w/Oak Leaf Cluster...In my opinion, his heart is in the right place and he is well suited to look after the welfare of America´s Armed Services and our nation´s eternal ally, The State of Israel, if he should ever occupy the "front office" at the Pentagon.

Reply 33 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 1/6/2013 1:02:40 PM     (No. 9101686)

Freshman Congressman Tom Cotton R- Ark was on This Week today and I was impressed with his views on Hagel.
Not that they hold any weight-the Democrat
controlled Senate can confirm Hagel and any other Cabinet position by themselves.
Rep Cotton is a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan.
He said that Hagel was against the surge.
The week Rep Cotton came back from Iraq in 2006,
Hagel announced that the war in Iraq couldn´t be won.
Which insulted and undercut ( my words , Cotton´s implication )
the troops fighting there.
Cotton said that Hagel delayed emergency funding for the troops in 2007.
And even after the surge succeeded in 2008, Hagel
" still said that it wasn´t because of the troops addition."
Cotton also said :
"When you add that to his dangerous views on Iran and Hezbollah and Hamas and terrorism,
as well as his strange hostility towards Israel,.."
Hagel sounds like Obama´s kind of guy.
44 years ago as a 21 year old, from 1967 to 1968 ,
Hagel served in Vietnam earning two Purple Hearts.
That does not qualify him to be Secretary of Defense.
His overtly antagonistic behavior towards the current military
( still fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan )
makes it a mystery why he was even considered by Obama.
I kid-it´s exactly why he was considered.

Reply 34 - Posted by: starboard, 1/6/2013 1:04:11 PM     (No. 9101689)

This is pay back to Buffet and the Nebraska quid pro quo.

Reply 35 - Posted by: Penney, 1/6/2013 1:31:57 PM     (No. 9101726)

Hagel is one of the most controversial choices 0bama could make, but that´s 0bama´s pattern, eh? ...Whether it is 0bama´s picks for policy or for filling his Administration´s positions, who can deny his choices on ALL issues & candidates continue to be the most partisan, most lefty/lib/statist and most annoyingly inept of controversial decisions?

0bama apparently intends to keep stiring the sociatal pot of discontent befitting of an urban community agitator, which is what he was trained to be and has always done. He will be known in history as America´s most extremist President, who used strife & discord at every opportunity as his statist modus opperandi tool.

...What kind of person, much less any national leader, apparently delights in sarcasim, ´´revenge,´´ and unfounded grudges? What are the results left behind by such an egotist but chaos? mmm mmm mmm

Reply 36 - Posted by: Davids918, 1/6/2013 1:39:57 PM     (No. 9101737)

This is all to embarrass Republicans, again.

Reply 37 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 1/6/2013 3:01:32 PM     (No. 9101829)

Chuck Hagel will be better than the war monger Rumsfeld and Bush. Who got thousands of boys killed and maimed over nothing in Iraq.Do you sleep well tonight Georgie boy? I guess you spend your time grieving your Dad and not all the families you destroyed over nothing in Iraq. Faces gone, no legs, no arms....was it worth it war mongers.....???

Reply 38 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/6/2013 4:20:08 PM     (No. 9101926)

Hagel is a pretend Republican who would give Obama some of the political cover that he thinks he needs to reduce the US military budgets and long-term expeditionary capabilities.

Besides as a long-time proponent of mass amnesty for illegal aliens, Hagel would probably go along with Obama proposals to load up the US military will illegal aliens as a basis for future amnesty grants.

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Exclusive: Gen. Wesley Clark,
68, dating 30-year-old fashion
entrepreneur Shauna Mei

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Retired 68-year-old US Army general and former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley K. Clark has won yet another esteemed decoration — he is dating 30-year-old Shauna Mei, the founder of online retailer AHAlife.com. Clark, who was married to Gertrude Kingston Clark for 45 years before filing for divorce last year, is spending time with the young New York-based entrepreneur, who graduated from MIT and worked at Goldman Sachs as an investment banker before launching her luxury e-commerce site. Clark and Mei were spotted together recently in the Hamptons,

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