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Poll: Gun control
beats 2nd amendment

Politico, by Kevin Cirilli

Original Article

Posted By:NorthernDog, 12/20/2012 3:50:16 PM

More Americans prioritize gun control above Second Amendment rights by the widest margin since President Barack Obama took office, according to a new poll released Thursday in wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings. Forty-nine percent of those polled said it’s more important to control gun ownership, compared to 42 percent who say it’s more important to protect Americans’ rights to own guns, according to a Pew Research Center Poll. The Pew poll showed a slight shift toward gun control that wasn’t apparent following a July shooting at an Aurora, Colo., movie theater.
Headline split by staff.

Comments:
How stupid is this? As if Constitutional rights can be taken away based on the whim of a poll.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 12/20/2012 3:53:18 PM     (No. 9076540)

Sorry I don´t buy this lie. If the principal and teachers all had guns, this massacre wouldn´t have happened.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 12/20/2012 3:57:06 PM     (No. 9076548)

If just ONE had a firearm, none of this would have happened.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: scrubber, 12/20/2012 3:58:04 PM     (No. 9076552)

Pollor: "Which would you rather have, gun control or your knees removed by a rusty spoon?"

Pollee: "Gimme gun control, please!"

Result: Most people (well, 49% but who´s counting?) want gun control. Wuzzat you say, what about the second amendment part? Eh, knees removed, 2nd amendment; same dog, different chain. That´s the result of our poll and we´re sticking to it!


Reply 4 - Posted by: noproblems, 12/20/2012 3:58:26 PM     (No. 9076555)

typical Pew poll framed to make propoganda. Goebels would be proud. Inane question asked at an emotional time.


Reply 5 - Posted by: WIBadger, 12/20/2012 4:05:16 PM     (No. 9076564)

I´ve never owned a gun but have always believed in the 2nd amendment. I am seriously considering taking a local C&C class and purchasing something for self-defense.

Polls be damned !


Reply 6 - Posted by: udanja99, 12/20/2012 4:07:34 PM     (No. 9076566)

And I´m the queen of Romania.


Reply 7 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 12/20/2012 4:08:17 PM     (No. 9076568)

Well, isn´t that special? Just yesterday a Gallup poll stated just the opposite - that 2nd Amendment rights were far more important.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: alto, 12/20/2012 4:14:58 PM     (No. 9076577)

#5...do it. Start the process today. You won´t regret it. Gather the needed couple page paperwork, start to fill it out. Register for class/s . Follow through . Then, it´s buy or not buy a firearm ( your choice). I got my permit to carry with no intention on owning a gun. That all changed as I found I really enjoyed the sport of target shooting. I bought the first of many firearms. That was over 10 years ago now. I´m now 62 and have never harmed anyone or anything in my entire life. I hope to finish out my life living the same, gentle way. I am, however, prepared and trained to defend myself and family if ever necessary. Do it.


Reply 9 - Posted by: blueline, 12/20/2012 4:23:39 PM     (No. 9076590)

No surprise here. If a majority of Americans cared about the constitution, Obama would not be given another 4 years to destroy it. Lemmings! Don´t look down.


Reply 10 - Posted by: bobgray2, 12/20/2012 4:27:56 PM     (No. 9076595)

Whatever. My right to be free and have the means to defend myself trumps their desire to be slaves.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/20/2012 4:28:27 PM     (No. 9076597)

We need not be a majority when well armed.


Reply 12 - Posted by: kens, 12/20/2012 4:28:49 PM     (No. 9076598)

I don´t buy this either. Maybe they are asking people who have no notion of what the second amendment or even the Constitution is. America has descended into a pot of imbeciles.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: ishouldknowbetter, 12/20/2012 4:31:10 PM     (No. 9076603)

I never felt the need to own a gun for protection before Obama got elected. I now own several. I expected buying would be difficult, waiting period, etc. I guess it depends on what state you live in. Paperwork and background check took less than 10 minutes. My wife and I went to the sherriff´s dept. and filled out paperwork for concealed carry permits. We each paid $10.00. In 4 days we recieved a temp. permit. In less than two weeks we recieved laminated permits good for 4 years. No training of any kind was required.
Many would find it outrageous that buying guns and getting a license is so easy. I worry much more about being killed by a driver texting or talking on a cell phone than I do about being shot by a legal gun owner.


Reply 14 - Posted by: rburns, 12/20/2012 4:40:23 PM     (No. 9076620)

Does the term BS ring a bell?? Get real!


Reply 15 - Posted by: Italiano, 12/20/2012 4:42:44 PM     (No. 9076623)

BS, but this debate is getting pointless and very tiresome. You want them, come get them.


Reply 16 - Posted by: rabbit, 12/20/2012 5:01:06 PM     (No. 9076640)

No one can convince me that the Founding Fathers put the 2nd amendment in there with the thought of providing unlimited access to guns to people with serious mental illness during psychotic breaks.


Reply 17 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 12/20/2012 5:02:09 PM     (No. 9076641)

Poll: pro-life sentiment trumps "constitutional" right to privacy...


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 12/20/2012 5:13:53 PM     (No. 9076646)

Fortunately, the Second Amendment cannot be changed on the basis of some poll.


Reply 19 - Posted by: 4Justice, 12/20/2012 5:16:10 PM     (No. 9076650)

#17, I do because our Founding Fathers were much more intelligent, educated, thoughtful and thorough than anyone I have ever known today. They thought of thing that nobody today would ever consider. I believe the FF were not concerned about those that were considered crazy because they would have taken any dangerous people out of the public in the first place and any others would be punished if they broke any laws. They felt it was more important that people´s right to self-defense be unencumbered. Even nuts have a right to defend themselves.

By the way, now we know why the poll is called "pew"...P.U.!


Reply 20 - Posted by: DARling, 12/20/2012 5:30:00 PM     (No. 9076661)

I wonder if anyone would ever think of "speech control" or putting conditions on the right to not be made to quarter troops.

The Bill of Rights is about rights, period. You can´t "abuse" a right, you can only break a law.

The people who talk about how many guns a person "needs" grate on me just like people who question how much money someone else "needs." It is none of your business or mine.


Reply 21 - Posted by: hoosierblue, 12/20/2012 5:34:14 PM     (No. 9076669)

Even if they would ban guns,they would still have to come get them.


Reply 22 - Posted by: busterman, 12/20/2012 5:46:49 PM     (No. 9076685)

The Founding Fathers gave us a framework from which to live our lives, guaranteeing our liberty and freedom from oppression by a government.

It is up to us to maintain that liberty and when someone like Adam Lanza comes along does what he did, then it´s up to us to remove him and his kind from society.

Punishing law abiding citizens and removing their liberty is tantamount to treason and the first steps into a dictatorship. If you want to see this country literally come apart, then try to take away our right to gun ownership. It will be the next civil war.

Of course, liberals and even some moderates would frame it as a race issue. The media would shout it from every corner: ´Racists! Racists won´t give up their guns and they´re coming to kill your children!´

You can either place blame on the true cause (mental illness) or you can place blame on a non-sentient appliance that has never killed anyone. Your choice. But stand ready to live with the consequences.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: jl80863, 12/20/2012 5:47:31 PM     (No. 9076686)

Well the real facts are 47% of all American households have one or more firearms. The total number of firearms owned by Americans exceeds 300 Million. The NRA is gaining 8000 members per day. The recent surge in firearms purchases is America saying we will take responsibility to protect ourselves because the government can´t and we don´t trust obama to protect our rights under the Constitution.


Reply 24 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/20/2012 5:48:53 PM     (No. 9076688)

And, on question #2, these same Americans thought B.O. was the greatest president in history. /s


Reply 25 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 12/20/2012 5:50:04 PM     (No. 9076690)

Just as I predicted yesterday. Pretty soon, the polls will be 75% instead of 49%, if the media has anything to do with it, and they do.


Reply 26 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/20/2012 5:55:00 PM     (No. 9076693)

You must remember that "gun control" means a lot of things to many people besides essentially banning an entire class of firearms as the liberal Democrats say they want to do. Of course controlling the purchase and possession of firearms by dangerous mentally ill people stands out from the constitutional right of law abiding Americans to purchase and possess firearms under the 2nd Amendment.


Reply 27 - Posted by: Gartrell bibberts, 12/20/2012 5:56:27 PM     (No. 9076694)

I blame the lack of civics education in this country.

They have not been taught about their protections under the "rule of law" and that the constitution is the contract by which we have agreed to have a government to manage certain affairs viz "bulls**t (foreign affairs), bullets (armed forces to protect the nation) and ballots ( elections for representatives to manage interstate affairs).

Those of you who have not talked to few recent college graduates about their study courses are in for a shock!


Reply 28 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/20/2012 5:57:29 PM     (No. 9076695)

See? Brain washing does work!


Reply 29 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 12/20/2012 6:10:08 PM     (No. 9076708)

BS.

Yeaaahhh, that´s why gun sales are through the roof right now.


Reply 30 - Posted by: TUSKER, 12/20/2012 6:15:42 PM     (No. 9076715)

More "input" from our Low Information Morons (LIM).


Reply 31 - Posted by: bugboy, 12/20/2012 6:21:53 PM     (No. 9076722)

Stupidity beats reality again.


Reply 32 - Posted by: hamrman, 12/20/2012 6:25:36 PM     (No. 9076731)

Oh yes those ever so accurate polls...all polls are rigged, so what ever our federal overlords want us to believe...this is hog wash! It is the Bill of Rights, not the bill of wants/needs...please!


Reply 33 - Posted by: Northern Redman, 12/20/2012 6:29:36 PM     (No. 9076739)

This sounds very familiar. First they take away the guns, next they inflate the currency until it´s worthless, then they round up the Jews.


Reply 34 - Posted by: artman1746, 12/20/2012 6:29:56 PM     (No. 9076741)

It´s the Obama voter; ignorant of everything American. They have the same respect for the Constitution as the Obama Alynskyites. What Constitution?


Reply 35 - Posted by: nonsense, 12/20/2012 6:38:45 PM     (No. 9076749)

I do not believe it. The poll I read said the opposite. Is it just Politico being in their Leftist comfort zone?


Reply 36 - Posted by: Crosscut, 12/20/2012 7:12:05 PM     (No. 9076782)

Baloney. Join the NRA and get a membership card. That card should be the new ID of all real Americans. Show your support of the Constitution and protest the tyranny and stupidity of Obama and leftist libs.


Reply 37 - Posted by: Judith, 12/20/2012 7:12:08 PM     (No. 9076783)

Here in MA, the day after obama was elected in 2008, Bass Pro Shop could not keep up with the number of people buying guns and bullets. Ever since, there has been a line (take a number like you do at the deli)at the gun counter. MA!


Reply 38 - Posted by: Blackops, 12/20/2012 7:32:42 PM     (No. 9076815)

By "Gun Control" do they mean using both hands?


Reply 39 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/20/2012 7:44:27 PM     (No. 9076821)

Politico is making a huge push to convince the Democrats that gun control is no longer a losing issue. They may succeed in that, but smart Dems will probably look at the rate of gun sales and see that Politico is full of stuff.


Reply 40 - Posted by: Sinatra5, 12/20/2012 7:47:33 PM     (No. 9076822)

What´s the point?..why even bother to discuss this with brain dead liberals? At some point in time, and I hope it´s soon, we need to decide, or understand, we are not "philosophically aligned" in any way with these wankers. At some point in time we need to rid ourselves - remove this cancer called liberalism - before it kills the patient. At some point, we have acknowledge that there are truly irreconcilable differences and just secede....this is waaaay past tiresome.


Reply 41 - Posted by: Goose, 12/20/2012 7:51:48 PM     (No. 9076825)

Instead of putting armed guards in school, why not put an anti-gun activist in each classroom. If a shooter enters the classromm, the activist will simply disarm the shooter.


Reply 42 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 12/20/2012 8:18:57 PM     (No. 9076838)

So what? That´s what guns are for.


Reply 43 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 12/20/2012 8:33:39 PM     (No. 9076847)

I would really like somebody on the left to defend the statement that David Letterman made on his show recently. He said there have been 70 shootings since the Brady bill passed in 1993-94.

I thought that bill was supposed to make us all a lot safer by banning assault guns?s/o


Reply 44 - Posted by: saguni, 12/20/2012 8:38:07 PM     (No. 9076851)

There is another "poll" being conducted as we speak/write. Eight thousand people per day are buying new memberships in the NRA. That´s close to 50,000 so far.

How many people did Pew contact in this poll? 1,219??


Reply 45 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/20/2012 10:02:03 PM     (No. 9076928)

Did Pew give a free cell phone to each participant who voted their way?


Reply 46 - Posted by: chumley, 12/20/2012 10:13:49 PM     (No. 9076940)

There are already 20,000+ limitations nationwide placed on my fundamental 2nd amendment rights. Criminals obey none of them. Who would be so naive as to think a criminal will obey one more? Nobody. Not even the libs. They don´t care about criminals or psychos, they care about disarming free people. That has been the goal all along.
Dont listen to what they say, look at what they do. It works every time.


Reply 47 - Posted by: LAW428, 12/20/2012 11:39:05 PM     (No. 9076991)

Polls are skewed to get desired results...this is all B.S. AND our Constitution doesn´t exist by opinion polls. It is the Law of the land, period!



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Susan Patton, the Princeton alumna who became famous for her letter urging Ivy League women to use their college years to find a mate, has been denounced as a traitor to feminism, to coeducation, to the university ideal. But really she’s something much more interesting: a traitor to her class. Her betrayal consists of being gauche enough to acknowledge publicly a truth that everyone who’s come up through Ivy League culture knows intuitively —

Chelsea Clinton doesn´t close
door to public office

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USA Today, by Catalina Camia    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/8/2013 10:23:20 AM     Post Reply
Chelsea Clinton has raised her profile in the last few days, which sparked the inevitable question about the former first daughter´s future: Will she ever be like Mom and Dad and run for office? Clinton, 33, essentially said "maybe" in an interview that aired Monday on NBC´s Today show. "Right now I´m grateful to live in a city, a state and a country where I strongly support my mayor, my governor, my president and my senators and my representative," said Clinton, whose father, Bill, was president from 1993-2001 and her mother, Hillary

Is going gluten-free
healthier for everybody?

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The Week, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/7/2013 11:28:27 AM     Post Reply
Gluten-free diets are all the rage, but they can be dangerous if not done right. What is gluten? It´s the spongy complex of proteins, found naturally in wheat, rye, and barley, that gives elasticity to dough and allows it to rise. When flour is moistened and either kneaded or mixed into dough, gluten molecules form an elastic, microscopic latticework that traps the carbon dioxide produced when yeast ferments, causing dough to inflate like a hot air balloon. Baking hardens the gluten, which helps the finished product keep its shape. Wheat — and gluten — is ubiquitous in the American diet.


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