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Even in Medical School, Affirmative Action Rules
American Thinker, by Chris Mondie

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Posted By:zephyrgirl, 12/16/2012 10:44:14 AM

When it comes to becoming a physician, the academic rigors, years of schooling, and personal sacrifice common to the effort are well-known. This process is a sort of rite of passage, an intellectual marathon that only the best and brightest can complete. As such, medical schools should select candidates best-suited to excel throughout school and cultivate the skills that will allow them to practice in the best health care system in the world. The process by which these candidates are selected, however, may come as a shock.

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I know it sounds racist, but I will only go to white or asian doctors - I know they got into med school on merit.

I feel for the minority applicants who are highly qualified - they´re tainted with the affirmative action brush.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/16/2012 10:49:19 AM     (No. 9069055)

OP - I totally agree with you re choice of doctors. I do the same for the same reason. I´m not taking any chances.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/16/2012 10:53:29 AM     (No. 9069066)

Agree with OP and #1. I too do the same.
Sorry, but it is what it is.
I only have one life.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: neanderthal, 12/16/2012 10:56:23 AM     (No. 9069070)

Educating good doctors has nothing to do with it. The only thing that counts is votes. Once you start going there for answers to confusing situations and questions, everything makes sense. Welcome to 21st century america.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 12/16/2012 11:11:03 AM     (No. 9069095)

Affirmative action is more liberal feel-good fantasy ideology. The concept itself is intellectually incoherent and as incompatible with the American system as slavery was to the ante-bellum Americans who were distressed by it. There is perhaps nothing more disgraceful than the academy´s embrace of this profoundly irrational and anti-egalitarian racket and fraud. The very people who are supposed to guard and transmit the hard-won skills of clear and honest thinking are the worst offenders in peddling the pernicious doctrine of affirmative action. I believe -though it is only a guess- that the main reason for this postmodern Treason of the Clerks(Julien Benda) is nothing but simple moral cowardice on the part of the silent majority of academics, which permits the zealots, scoundrels, incompetents and fanatics to control and drive events.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Nimby, 12/16/2012 11:20:22 AM     (No. 9069112)

Thank Sandra day O´Conner.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 12/16/2012 11:20:49 AM     (No. 9069113)

Affirmative Action Doctors:
The" Make-Work´ Program for Lawyers.

Obamacare, does not need Death Panels,
when Medical Incompetence is assured by Affirmative Action.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 12/16/2012 11:22:25 AM     (No. 9069117)

sad because there are good qualified blacks in all walks of life but how to pick them out from the trash? I am afraid it is just safer and easier to do as OP does. And i don´t limit it to just doctors. I now cast my vote the same way

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Reply 8 - Posted by: upstate54, 12/16/2012 11:23:42 AM     (No. 9069118)

OP and posters 1 and 2 - exactly. I have only one life and I´m not playing politically correct with it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: 6079 Smith, W, 12/16/2012 11:33:34 AM     (No. 9069135)

"...medical schools should select candidates best-suited to excel thorughout school and coltivate the skills..." How quaint! Don´t you realize that that is old fashioned and wrong! The goal is to have a "rainbow of diversity" to show that we are an accepting, caring nation. Ability doesn´t count--it´s how we look in a group photo! /s



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Reply 10 - Posted by: The Advocate, 12/16/2012 11:33:48 AM     (No. 9069137)

Went to a med school graduation.
A black female was allowed to come onto the stage with her class to make her feel better even though she could not get her degree.
She kept failing almost every class and had to repeat them.
Would you want her to be your doctor if by some chance she stayed there long enough to finally get.,a pass?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: planetgeo, 12/16/2012 11:40:41 AM     (No. 9069147)

Hey, if you think this is hazardous, just imagine how bad things could be if we somehow elected a President this way...

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Reply 12 - Posted by: silencedogood, 12/16/2012 11:41:52 AM     (No. 9069152)

OK class;

You have to fly from point A to point B. You have 2 air carriers from which to choose. Both flights have identical schedules and the tickets cost the same. The only difference between the 2 air carriers is their name.

One is American Airlines.
The other is Affirmative Action Airlines.

Which air carrier do you choose?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: dr.lakerman, 12/16/2012 11:48:47 AM     (No. 9069162)

When affirmative action in admissions became well established in the 1970s, I am familiar with one state run medical school where the blacks admitted were run through a 5 year program, rather than the normal four years. They didn´t have the intellectual capacity to do the work in four years, is what I was told. They also, typically, did not do the obsessive studying required in medical school.
I taught in a business related masters program, and we admitted any black who had completed an undergraduate degree, no matter the major, and we gave each of them an assistantship, which provided full tuition plus a stipend. Most of them were incapable of assisting the professor, so they did nothing. And when most of them were allowed to graduate, after barely squeezing through the program, employers wanted them, over our very best graduates!
So the undergrad school was under affirmative action pressure to admit and graduate them, we, the graduate school, were under affirmative action pressure to admit and graduate them, and employers were under affirmative action pressure to hire and promote them.
Such is life in modern America.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/16/2012 11:50:03 AM     (No. 9069166)

The thing that caught my attention in the article is the last bit-
FTA "Once a tool that sought to eliminate race from the employment process in an effort to promote equality, affirmative action has taken on a life of its own. It is now a dominant force that has countered racism with more racism."

It is a though the writer has suddenly realized an epiphany that "Affirmative Action" is a racist thing now- I disagree!

Affirmative action by its very definition from the inception of it was racist and shameful in the extreme- it was and still is racism plain and simple and anyone with the lightest bit of wisdom could see that.



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Reply 15 - Posted by: Refried, 12/16/2012 11:55:34 AM     (No. 9069177)

Totally agree with above posters. I refuse to let ANY dr. treat me that is not White or Oriental.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: Republic Can, 12/16/2012 11:58:13 AM     (No. 9069182)

Our HR department hired an AA guy one day. In a matter of days it was obvious to everyone that he could not perform any of the tasks his resume said he could. Being a DoD contractor, and afraid to fire him, they spent the next eight months or so rewriting his resume, enrolling and mentoring him through Microsoft Office classes and sending out applications for him to other help wanted ads to get rid of him.

No way to run a business, much less medicine.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: beveyscool1, 12/16/2012 12:05:31 PM     (No. 9069200)

This happens in Law school also.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dr.lakerman, 12/16/2012 12:09:49 PM     (No. 9069207)

second post apologies, but - just because the physician is a white American is not enough. Make sure that physician attended a u.s. medical school.
There are some whites who yearn for the M.D. degree, apply to American schools, get rejected, go to a mexican border town where there are medical schools established to teach such americans, or to grenada or some other off shore school. Avoid those ´physicians´ like the plague.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 12/16/2012 12:38:38 PM     (No. 9069261)

What do you mean EVEN in medical school, that was famously one of the first places for the battle in the Bakke decision forty years ago, where the courts ruled that it comprised reverse discrimination. But it has gone on anyway, apparently.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/16/2012 12:41:36 PM     (No. 9069267)

It´s fairly easy to learn if a doctor of any color has the ability and and intelligence to be a real healer. If the doctor must test everything over and over instead of relying on these abilities then find another one fast.
The best way to pick is to make an appointment and interview him/her just like hiring any other potential service employee.
An excellent doctor will also call upon other excellent providers for special needs.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: harleynyc, 12/16/2012 1:00:42 PM     (No. 9069295)

sickening. it reaches all schools and jobs, and the decline of society is in full swing.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: WIBadger, 12/16/2012 1:07:39 PM     (No. 9069304)

My father is a retired MD who served on the admissions board of a state med school here back in the late 70´s/early 80´s. He saw this attitude even back then when AA was still in its early stages.

The school tried to set up a summer school program for accepted minority students that were academically-challenged. It was an attempt to help them get a leg up on the basic sciences that comprise the core curiculum for 1st & 2nd year students. However they made the participation voluntary. Results ? Out of approximately 30 new minority students who should have taken part, only 3 did. The rest couldn´t be botherd to give up their summer time. Priorities you see....

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Reply 23 - Posted by: VAPMAN, 12/16/2012 1:44:19 PM     (No. 9069347)

There is no affirmative action in professional sports and there should be none in medical school admissions. Color of skin should have no place if you don´t make the grades.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: OregonTrail, 12/16/2012 2:15:36 PM     (No. 9069380)

#13, I had a similar experience. Several years ago, I flew out of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, where I had been on a business trip. I sat next to a young woman who had finished med school at Iowa and was on her way to California to interview for residencies. I had heard of "grade norming" for minorities and asked her if that stuff went on at Iowa med school too. She said she didn´t think so, but what did happen was the minority students--or most-- took half the course load of the white and Asian students, and took 5-6 years to complete. She said they were all on full scholarships so were indifferent to the added costs. Not a confidence builder.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: nina584, 12/16/2012 3:53:23 PM     (No. 9069493)

When I was a med student in the late 70´s all the black students were caught cheating in a test.They called the NAACP and the school backed down. They all graduated except one that had repeated the first year four times.I often wondered how many people they killed .

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 12/16/2012 4:53:47 PM     (No. 9069624)

Too bad for the really good minority docs. They must get tired of being looked at askance.

Each and every AffAct advocate in Congress (including out of office) ought to be required to go to AffAct physicians ONLY! No exceptions.

I suspect obamacare will make sure that choice on the part of the hoi polloi --that´s us proletarians-- will go away.

So perhaps this is a question which we ought to be posing to the solons in Congress. now. before it gets any later in the game.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: billa, 12/16/2012 6:04:21 PM     (No. 9069717)

If there is one last precaution. Medical malpractice lawsuits are color blind. As such, incompetent docs will eventually be weeded out through threats or actual litigation. The unfortunate part is that it will take just one person to suffer that injury.

Also, as to the immediate acceptance of an Asian doc...many of those foreign born are brought here in under special visas for a lot lower wage, like in the science and tech engineering professions centered in Boston and Silicone Valley, CA.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 12/16/2012 11:28:44 PM     (No. 9070025)

This nation is as diversified as it will ever be, so let´s give up AA. There are plenty of excellent students that should be accepted on merit, not color. Wait until the Dream Act throws in more with English as a second language.

What are the chances your Medicare plan with only provide 2nd class docs because they cost less ?

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Their target is the GOP, but they are not angry liberals bent on destroying it. They are reform-minded Republican leaders intent on strengthening it. These Republicans are applying conservative principles to 21st-century challenges, focused on middle-class concerns like lowering costs and improving access to college, modernizing health care and reforming the tax code. They aim to broaden prosperity´s reach through markets and merit, not government and corporate cronyism. They´re also concentrating on helping the poor by changing Washington´s dizzying assortment of antipoverty programs to emphasize work and make the safety net more effective and sustainable. The reformers´ success in providing

Getting popularity tips? Barack Obama hopes
for ´Francis bounce´ as he meets Pope for
first time and tells him he is a ´great admirer´

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Daily Mail [UK], by Tara Brady    Original Article
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One is a world leader who has been praised for his humility and outlook on the world. The other is an American president, once the international superstar of the political stage. So it is no surprise that President Barack Obama has travelled to the Vatican in Rome possibly to get some tips from the popular Pope Francis who now even has own weekly glossy magazine dedicated to him. As he sat down with the Pontiff at the Vatican this morning, Obama called himself a ´great admirer´ of the pope. Their historic first meeting comes as Obama´s administration and the church

Northwestern University football players
can unionize, federal agency says

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Fox News, by Staff    Original Article
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Chicago - In a ruling that could revolutionize college sports, a federal agency has given football players at Northwestern University the green light to unionize. Wednesday´s landmark ruling by a regional director of National Labor Relations Board means the players are deemed employees under federal law and so can create the nation´s first college athletes´ union. Union lawyers argued the Big Ten school´s football players are part of a commercial enterprise that generates hefty profits through their labor. The NCAA, Big Ten Conference and the private school vehemently opposed the union drive. Northwestern argued that college athletes are


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