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Can We Keep Guns Out of
the Hands of the Mentally Ill?

PJ Media, by Rick Moran

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/15/2012 10:36:34 PM

Glenn Reynolds points us to this thoughtful post by The Atlantic‘s Jeffrey Goldberg that takes up the sensitive issue of the mentally ill and their access to guns: We must find a way to make it more difficult for the non-adjudicated mentally ill to come into possession of weapons. This is crucially important, but very difficult, because it would require the cooperation of the medical community — of psychiatrists, therapists, school counselors and the like — and the privacy issues (among other issues) are enormous. But: It has to be made more difficult

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Fosterdad, 12/15/2012 11:00:05 PM     (No. 9068366)

Not as long as the mental health community feels that its only priority is patient privacy. Until they give that up, and realize that treatment of the mentally ill and protection of the innocent is just as important as privacy, we will continue to see these shootings.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: LanieLou, 12/15/2012 11:02:16 PM     (No. 9068369)

OMG! Please don´t help the marxists lock peeps up! We don´t even know the circumstances yet... Shooter had a meeting at the school the day before & left mad ! Maybe he got turned down for a job!

Big Sis & DHS is trying to get any returning military with combat experience categorized as mentally damaged... So they can´t keep a gun!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: drkillj0y, 12/15/2012 11:12:50 PM     (No. 9068381)

And, can we keep the mentally ill out of government ?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/15/2012 11:25:39 PM     (No. 9068394)

The government will never be able to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill if their mothers go out and affectively purchase guns for them.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: FLCracker, 12/15/2012 11:26:05 PM     (No. 9068396)

Short answer: No.

Long answer: The only perceivable way to keep guns, including, as in this case, legally obtained ones, out of the hands of the mentally ill is to completely ban and confiscate ALL guns.

Thus making all of America as soft a target as an elementary school.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/15/2012 11:36:18 PM     (No. 9068411)

I fall more into the defensive mode of making it mandatory for every school to have armed guards and to make it convenient, if not mandatory, for every teacher to keep an iron in each classroom and to be trained in the use of same.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: RussVet, 12/15/2012 11:40:31 PM     (No. 9068421)

Unreal ... I didn´t know that mentally ill Obozo even carried a gun ...

Israel school teachers are openly armed, many with rifles ... Israel school violence with a gun, zero..

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Aunt Agnes, 12/15/2012 11:40:52 PM     (No. 9068422)

Who will be considered mentally ill? I know libs who feel that anyone who is not a militant believer in BO/feminism/socialism and the whole secular agenda is "mentally ill."

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Kurto, 12/15/2012 11:44:36 PM     (No. 9068431)

It was reported that the guns used in the CT shooting were registered to the killer´s mother. Handguns, OK but not many women want a Bushmaster. So, I will guess that the mother purchased the weapons for the killer son. She, more than anyone else should have been able to see the potential disaster.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: rambo77, 12/16/2012 12:06:11 AM     (No. 9068448)

The P C affect strikes again. The kid obvious had problems but no wanted to "hurt" his feelins or offend his mommy when he obviously didn´t fit into the crowd. Since the school people decided not to upset his family and call him what he apparently was, 27 people are dead. Go figure.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: cincinnati whig, 12/16/2012 12:13:48 AM     (No. 9068460)

I see obviously deranged people freely wandering the streets every week. Thanks, ACLU!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: fayebeck, 12/16/2012 12:22:14 AM     (No. 9068474)

The punk attempted to buy a gun from a gun shop but was refused from what I´ve read. The dealer did his job.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LadyHen, 12/16/2012 12:40:43 AM     (No. 9068494)

Love the generalization #9 of what "women want." Just a note of criticism from a woman, you are wrong.

Also, I would assume since she was his first victim of her own son´s viciousness, she has paid for any real or perceived crime the public will heap on her head. I myself will hold off on any judgement until the facts are known, you know, the way real conservatives should.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: BarryNo, 12/16/2012 1:05:05 AM     (No. 9068506)

Most of the dangerously mentally ill people got that way due to Liberal socializing and culture.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Fosterdad, 12/16/2012 1:24:20 AM     (No. 9068513)

The Connecticut shooter may not have had mental health treatment, but the Virginia Tech shooter did as did the one in Aurora, CO. In both case, mental health professionals were powerless to do anything because of privacy concerns.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: uponthecouch, 12/16/2012 1:38:38 AM     (No. 9068516)

Maybe this could be a push to get some kind of fingerprint lock or something: then people could not use other people´s guns, for example your attacker could not use your gun against you.

I am not sure I am against this in the same vein as old fashioned gun control.

I don´t think it is *the* solution, this guy would have just come with a sword or spear, but it would have prevented him using his mother´s guns.

Personally I think we should just require teachers to carry and be trained and responsible for taking out intruders shooting the place up ...

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Reply 17 - Posted by: MarkTwain, 12/16/2012 2:45:54 AM     (No. 9068540)

Some would define ´mentally ill´ as those who want guns. Wrong approach. Eliminate ´gun free´ zones. Put guns in the hands of those who need to DEFEND the INNOCENT.

´nuff said.


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Reply 18 - Posted by: flatwater, 12/16/2012 4:00:40 AM     (No. 9068560)

We have a malignant narcissist as president, and an utterly delusional V.P.

The mentally ill are either running this country, or reporting favorably on behalf of those who are for ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, PMSNBC, PBS and NPR.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: franq, 12/16/2012 7:39:13 AM     (No. 9068668)

#17 took the words out of my mouth. Which is why I think the psychological approach to solving this problem will only fatten the psychologist´s bank accounts.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: AltaD, 12/16/2012 8:29:13 AM     (No. 9068742)

As #4 noted, what good would additional regs be if the families of the mentally ill don´t keep weapons from them? The bigger issue is how do we protect society in general from the mentally ill.

Shoule the gov´t force families of young adults to make sure their children are medicated? And what do we do about all the mentally ill who roam the streets?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 12/16/2012 9:04:35 AM     (No. 9068820)

Further to #16- Rather than armed guards, a special drawer containg a .45 Glock and several clips that only opens by reading the teacher´s fingerprint or four-digit PIN. The teachers could be trained as part of their general education for the position. It might thin out the ranks of those applying for this all-important job. Just sayin......

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Reply 22 - Posted by: uponthecouch, 12/16/2012 10:54:33 AM     (No. 9069068)

I like what #17 has there - could be implemented with current technology today!

The fingerprint-gun is still mainly a sci-fi special effect.

Now since these would be special circumstances maybe there ought to be a fully automatic riot shotgun with a 10-30 shot clip next to the glock. Nothing like a little shock and awe.

I wonder if it were widely known EVERY teacher had a riot gun close at hand if the "mentally ill" might have a sobering thought first. I.E. be a little scared ... fitting for an "unreasoning insane person", no?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: craige, 12/16/2012 11:12:01 AM     (No. 9069098)

Very stupid question: Can We Keep Guns Out of
the Hands of the Mentally Ill?

Answer: Can We Keep Herion Out of
the Hands of the Drug Addicts?

OR

Can We Keep Alcohol Out of
the Hands of Drunks?

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