Another fact: Dems will make as much political hay out of this as is possible even before the bodies are buried.

The culture is permeated by violence and has been so for a decade, more escalated recently in movies, computer games and even advertising. Violence, by any means, is glorified, vigilantiism is lauded and life is generally cheap. This begins in the family; if parents show contempt for pro-life views, the seed is then planted that life is fungible, disposable.

Bad neighborhoods are allowed to perpetuate the culture of violence so long as it doesn´t spread beyond the borders. Remember Rahm Emmanuel´s admonition to the Chicago gangs to "stop it", but nothing was done. That kind of casual approach to the valueless nature of human life has become the worldview of American culture.

No doubt the Left will try to blame the guns, but that is like blaming the fork for obesity. The problem must be attacked at its roots -- entertainment, music, art and godlessness. If it isn´t, it cannot be destroyed. Parents, churches, synagogues and mosques must speak out forcefully against violence. Three out of four might.

If Principal Dawn Hochsprung, 47, school psychologist Mary Sherlach, 56, or 27-year-old teacher Victoria Soto had a concealed handgun with them at the time of this incident, there is a high probability that a lot of the children killed would still be alive, right now. Each of the above individuals confronted the lunatic face to face, and he killed each of them.

Ditto #2, I could not agree more. Well said.

i blame tarantino and other deranged hollywood leftists

A nation whose highest court authorizes the murder of the unborn should not be surprised if the mentally deranged moves the calender ahead slightly to murder those walking around!

#1 you´re wrong, they´ll make hay out of this before the bodies are COOLED, let alone buried....

Tidal wave of rage out there, much of it sponsored by Dem politicians.

"God Damn America"
... Rev Jerimiah Wright, obama´s pastor for 20 years

THE SCENE: Police told children to close their eyes as they led them past the carnage from their classrooms.

Note: I wrote this shortly after the Virginia Tech shootings. One of my children was at Wedgewood Baptist Church on September 19, 1999 when that man came in and started shooting, killing seven people.

My prayers to all those suffering this sad morning.

Free Me From Myself

Free me from myself that I might see the world
Take from my hands by passions and desires
free me from the chains that keep me blind to others pain
and free me from myself that I might bless your name.

Let the world see your grace in my hands, my heart, my face help the lost see your love as this broken world I embrace.

May the love of Christ flow through me as I hold out my hand to the weary broken hearted and sorely troubled land.

I will risk in sharing love only you can give so someone somewhere someday may have a chance to live.
Let the world see your grace in my hands, my heart, my face help the lost see your love as this broken world I embrace.

Free me from myself that I might see the world
Take from my hands my passions and desires
free me from the chains that keep me blind to others pain
and free me from myself that I might bless your name.

#2, speaking out against violence will not help this problem. Nearly all of the mass killing instigators do not have a history of violence (very different from the gangland style violence on every Chicago Saturday night). Instead, nearly all of the mass killing instigators were relatively young adult males with a history of mental illness.

Mental illness most often strikes in the late teens/early twenties. Some people diagnosed with schizophrenia have earlier symptoms which can appear like Asperger Syndrome, but are not. (The DSM-5 explicitly says to rule out schizophrenia before diagnosing Asperger, precisely because they can look similar in some ways, but in reality are very, very different.) If you saw the movie or read the book A Beautiful Mind, this was the situation with John Nash. He was brilliant, seemed Aspergerish as a youth, but actually developed schizophrenia.

People like this can have psychotic breaks; they do not need access to guns. We have to train people to keep guns away from vulnerable populations.

Metal detectors. When the alarm goes off, school goes into Defcon 1. But of course that´s too practical. The real solution is to confiscate all weapons from their legal owners.

As this investigation goes forward, it would be helpful if information were to be released that confirmed or denied if this young man invested his time playing video games which reward players for applying extreme violence against very realistic images of humans.
No species on Earth is genetically inclined toward cold blooded mass murder of others of their species.
For example, dogs must be trained to kill other dogs otherwise one dog will eventually submit to the other dog when they get into a heated skuffle and then the fight is over.
Soldiers in boot camp and other training must be desensitized to the idea of killing the enemy. It´s the troops who fight the enemy face-to-face who end up with serious cases of battle related mental disorders as they see what their actions caused.
Somehow, this shooter did not have the spiritual and mental facilities to act like a normal human being.

All WE need know -- at this point is -- 20 babies have gone home to God...

May He take them in his arms and wipe away their tears....

Peace be with their families.....

LZK

And speaking of senseless violence as an acceptable way to express one´s disagreement with others.

Remember the scenes at Madison, Wisconsin and now Portland, Oregon.

Has the messiah in the white house said one word about that ugly violence?

WAsn´t this very person saying that we should get in the face of our neighbors, and if they bring a knife we should bring a gun to the argument.

Look to the left for the ever rising violence in our society.

That said, this is not a crime that could have been predicted.

Serious, no exceptions, metal detectors at all public buildings would go a long way to preventing this type of crime.

Read elsewhere today...Our freedoms will be forced to pay for one man´s actions. Which is a pretty accurate way to describe the last four years of the 0bama regime.

This killer started out shooting his Mom = didn´t anyone know this guy had mental problems? As for guns being dangerous to own, that is true and that is why you get
licenses and pass tests and background info also.

Apparantly all the shooting was with handguns, so the left will certainly call for another ban on high cap magazines. And even though no "assault " rifle was involved, they will surely use this event to push to reinstate the ban on those as well. Can´t let a crisis go to waste you know.

All terribly sad. And yes an armed faculty member might have stopped or limited the carnage, but that is one solution the left will never allow.

This killer´s parents and older brother have some culpability in this. They knew for years that this was a very disturbed person. Parents, watch your children, because when they finally crack you will most likely be their first victim.

The Lame Stream Media at its worst.

Reporting he shot his father at the home. Not true.

Reporting he used automatic rifle. Not true.

Interviewing gun store owner, who used the phrase "He knew what he was doing"; reference automatic rifle. Rifle, not true.

Psychobabble on every TV and radio station. All of it, most likely Not true.

The March on Washington is now already scheduled by anti-gun crowd with Columbine parents in the lead.

Wasn´t it our own beloved leader who told his followers to get angry and get in their faces when people don´t agree with you?? And didn´t he advise us to bring a gun to a knife fight? Just sayin´.

Do we credit the paper the play is written on?
Do we blame the car for a drunk driver driving into a crowd?
Do we credit the teleprompter for the stupidity we hear from this POTUS?
Do we blame the venue for the UN-American comments made by actors?
Then why do we blame the gun for what the holder of the gun does?

Could it be because removing guns from personal possession is one of the major steps needing to be taken to destroy this nation?

Adam Lanza was described as ´one of the goths´ in high school.

Suppose he was also in Zuccotti Park? ´Protesting´ against the ´´affluent neighborhood of well-tended homes with neighbors who worked as executives at companies like IBM´´? Against hat baaaad 1% that gave him a classic American upbringing?

His single mother had several guns registered to her, in her hone in that same neighborhood. Did she have a reason to be afraid of her own son? The town itself certainly seems non-threatening.

So many questions still unanswered, and which may never be answered.

#12. that´s exactly the common thread with those committing the mass shootings. we need more education and vigilance of parents of signs and symptoms of mental illness so that things don´t escalate to what is happening..... these are the families that need to practice gun control. our son is manic depressive. he had his obsessions of knives. he is a very bright person but when one is sleep deprived, self medicating or not medicated, that´s when things get skewed and they are not in their right mind. i did not know much about what my son was experiencing until i started a job in the behavioral health field. and once your child turns 18, and you can´t get info if they are willing to be treated.... then the system gets in the way of parents trying to be parents. too bad mental illness isn´t treated as aggressively as cancer, heart disease, diabetes....

Can we please use this tragedy to expose the moral rot foisted upon us by liberal thinking? The libs have been cheerleading for more drugs, more sex, and more violence. Meantime their buddies in the courts have been tearing down the last vestiges of religious and moral influence in the culture. The left´s greatest hero: Larry Flynt. The left´s greatest villain: The Boy Scouts.

This morning before the mass on EWTN, the priest offered the mass for the victims of the shootings and again in the petitions after the homily.
I wondered "how many muslim clerics would pray for the victims of this shooting?"

No one in Adam Lanza´s family thought that he was just a little off kilter? I find that hard to believe. Now because of this nutjob 28 people are dead including 20 children. As per usual our esteemed pResident slinks on tv with his fake tears and "eloquent" speech. Also the news media continues to get facts wrong everytime. Facts like Adam used a rifle inthe school attack and that he shot his dad. El wrongo MSM. Expect anti-gun fools like liberal democrats, Bob Costas, Andrea Mitchell and others to use this tragedy for their own purposes.

I will bet the deed to our Ranch

SSRIs were in this kid´s bloodstream. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, the designation for a class of antidepressants.

SSRIs are 90%+ fluoride. Ann Blake Tracy, Ph.D., author of Prozac: Panacea or Pandora?, has been studying the violent, dark side of SSRI drugs for ten years. She has researched 32 murder/suicides that involved women and their children. By interviewing their families and studying autopsy reports, news accounts and medical histories, she has determined that in 24 of these 32 cases, the women were taking Prozac or another SSRI.

Guess what? Last count nearly 120 million Americans take an SSRI every day.

And in the last law enforcement study of this phenomenon, 31 of 32 mass shooters were on some form of SSRIs.

I think these victim´s lives should be placed at the doorstep of the media, who has degraded and taken life to make a profit, corrupted young minds with violence and destroyed marriage and the family with unrestricted sex, sex and more sex. In their world, sex and violence sells, which translates into profits, and that is all that matters to them.

So don´t be surprised if this administration, supported by and a product of, the media, and the media, blames everyone but themselves for this catastrophic event.

What about vidio games? The more you kill the more points you get and the ones shot get up and are alive? He stoled the guns, Now the democratswill be after our legal guns,

#30 - Yes, so very pertinent to these tragedies. So too are early childhood events about which investigators will never know.

But I still want to know why there were NO injured. It kinda haunts me.

# 30, You are dead on accurate. Almost everyone I know is on an antidepressant or their child is. I think some people go haywire on meds and yet they continue to dispense them like gumballs. I wish they were as concerned about the effects of antidepressants as they are about cigarettes! Yesterday, my daughter took her dog to the vet and he wants the dog to be put on Prozac for separation anxiety. Are we living in the Twighlight Zone or what?

What we know about the past ten years of mass shootings is three things, they were committed by mentally disturbed children, unparented children, and Muslims. Since they can´t (although they´ll try very hard) to blame this on Christianity, they´ll blame it on guns and the need to disarm law abiding citizens, and I promise you it will happen soon.

I have an idea! Let´s just ban guns altogether so that nobody will have them. You know; like we did with heroin...

Lanza uses a fun and is rightfully called demonic or insane. Doctors do this daily by aborting babies and it´s called "legal" and a "reproductive right ." End abortion and maybe people will respectt all life again. Just sayin.

120 million people on SSRIs and 31 of the last 32 shooters were on them? Must be the SSRIs then. s/

They aren´t magic pills. Sometimes they help the patient and sometimes they don´t. Sometimes the patient is able to get a handle on things and sometimes the pills do absolutely nothing at all. Which means what? The reason for taking the pills still exists -- depression. A very real problem for many people.

Do I think anti-depressants are over-prescribed? Yes, probably. But do I also know people who need them and would be in a horrible place without them? Yes, I do.

No different from the anti-gunners. 120,000,000 people on anti-depressants did NOT kill 20 kids yesterday. One did. I´d look more at our nihilistic, cynical culture than at anything else.

The anger and sorrow we feel over the deaths of these children is almost unbearable.

It is surpasses only by the glee the left is showing, thinking that they finally have an issue to win on gun control with- before the children and their parents could even be reunited, the left is spouting gun control.

Did the press point out how much our Organizer in Chief has been agitating? How much anger and vitriol has been fulminated by our President, pointing out how evil the rich are? How about Harry Belafonte saying the GOP should be jailed for their dissent, or Hollywood´s endless anger toward the white middle class? How about the ACLU suing over any evidence of God in our schools, or any kind of morality that dares to declare right and wrong? Traditional values are too constricting.

But, if we take away the guns, everything will be fine, right? How´s that working in Mexico?

"The real solution is to confiscate all weapons from their legal owners." The question is how to get the illegal guns from the nuts--never will happen!

His mother was a legal owner but paid with her life--how did she not recognise the mental illness of her son?

Our culture of violence in movies, tv, games, and the lack of a spiritual core that ceased after removal of prayer from schools was the start. Next came the pill (no responsibility sex) abortion, individualism, political correctness.

The scorn and redicule of "Father knows best" and "leave it to Beaver" in our progressive society, but anyone that can recall that time in our country would gladly go back to the era when life was satisfying and ordered by our personal core beliefs and standards.

I am just one person, but SSRIs saved my life. I was in graduate school in biomedical science, and it looked like the only way I could get my degree was to march through a neverending stream of psychological abuse by my advisor and by the rest of the faculty. (In the process, I learned that I wasn´t being singled out. It is a relatively common experience.)

After several years of this, suicide looked like a good option. (Also a relatively common experience. The shooter in Colorado was a neuroscience graduate student.) Fortunately for me, SSRIs were available. I was put on one of them, at twice the highest recommended dose. After the drug began working I noticed something unusual. I began to feel normal. Life was worth living. Events weren´t closing in on me any longer. I could cope. I had forgotten what that was like.

After I finished the degree, and after I left that school I was finally able to wean myself off the SSRIs. But without them I doubt that I would be here today. As I said, I´m just one person, but please do not assume that SSRIs are a universal villain.

The article is misleading because the deadliest school killing in US history was not a shooting, but a bombing. It was in the 1920´s, the Bath School killing, and it was a bombing. Luckily, half of the bombs malfunctioned or it would have been even worse. It was a crazy school janitor, the treasurer of the local school district. He killed his wife, set fire to buildings on his farm, and then went to town and blew up the school, killed 38. He didn´t play video games, listen to violent music, or take modern psychoactive medicines. He also didn´t use modern guns with high capacity magazines or bayonet lugs. But he was nuts. That is all it takes people.

Thank You #42, Hays.

Thank you, #42

Look at all the government buildings and grounds that have max security. And there is
no security in government schools.
Every public school district in America has buildings full of fat, non teaching educrats
They need to be thrown out and replaced with
sensible armed security. All the movie studios, big, medium corporations have very sensible such systems.
Nobody even checked this guy out at the door
Talk about uncaring lax child abuse.
Now, every Costa commie comes out of the air screaming gun confiscation. Great idea. More random killings.
Need school security awareness everywhere.

The last two sentences of #42´s post will be the LAST thing that anyone will talk about for the next week.

Before we accuse the MSM and rest of the Democrats of trying to use the blood of murdered children to score political points, can we at least acknowledge that they may be right on this one?

Banning firearms is probably the answer. The District of Columbia and Chicago have the strictest gun control laws in the country. The positive results in those places speak for themselves.

The media coverage of this story has been contemptible. It is easy to see how facts may get missed when there is a rush to get the story out. But, there were too many lies, added for sensationalism. Or did they just get it wrong over and over in their efforts to cash in on the story? The exploitation of the event in the effort to advance their all consuming gun-control agenda by the liberal media has been inexcusable.

The left and the media have one simple answer to this complex problem.
And that´s to ban guns.
While ignoring the other contributing factors like the breakdown of society including the overwhelming , unspeakable
and numbing violence from Hollywood ,
video games, television and the internet.
Right and wrong and Thou Shall Not Kill are archaic concepts.
The breakdown of the family.
Religion is no longer a major influence in many families.
The difficulty in getting treatment and perhaps institutionalizing the mentally disturbed.
It´s very difficult to get a patient committed.
The law and lack of beds handcuffs the family and physicians .
Perhaps the Stimulus should have been used to build more facilities.
The left and the judiciary would rather have hundreds of disturbed people
roaming free if it prevented one " innocent " person
from being institutionalized.
Everyone is also afraid of being sued so the mental health field
often bites their tongue .
That´s why the little bodies had to stay so long-law enforcement had to make sure every i was dotted and t crossed
for the eventual lawsuits.
Irresponsible gun ownership . If you take on the responsibility of owning a firearm, it must always be secured.
Obviously, the guns were not secured yesterday.
As were the guns stolen and used in the mall shooting.
Perhaps there are other contributing factors on a biological level
that we haven´t yet identified.
Unfortunately , I don´t think as a society we can stop the downward spiral , we can just try to mitigate it in our own lives.
And the scary part is that there are other disturbed , young males who are time bombs just waiting to detonate.

To follow up on #38´s comments:

If the 120 million were NOT on SSRI´s, I would bet my house/ranch that then number of incidents would be a hell of a lot higher than the 32 incidents cited in this thread.

Now, while I am a strong 2nd Amendment supporter, and I work in Mental Health (crisis intervention), and have strong liberterian leanings, I have to agree that we, as a society, need to figure out how to address exposure to violence and access to weapons. Neither exteremes mentioned in this thread (CCDW for the three educators killed, or banning all weapons) are the answer. And, if the reports are correct, even a background check would not have prevented this tragedy as the guns were legally registered to the shooters non ill mother.

However, one clear lesson learned: IF you have a potentially dangerous mentally ill person in your home, you CANNOT leave your weapons around.

With great rights comes great responsibility......

#40, I guess I am going to have to start using the /s in my posts. I meant it that way.

The murder-scum never used a power weapon. It was left in the car.
So as the police use side arms like those used,does this mean that the leftys want to disarmthe police?
Remember that the military placed in airpotsafter 9-11 had no bullets?
Didn´t we read thhat the few benghazi and othre embassy guards have no bullets ?