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Noah´s Ark Great Flood
may have happened, says
Robert Ballard

Telegraph [UK], by Staff

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Posted By:JoniTx, 12/11/2012 1:20:32 PM

In an interview with ABC News´s Christiane Amanpour, Mr Ballard explains that he investigated a theory proposed by two scientists from Columbia University that there was a massive flood in the Black Sea region. They believe that the Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland until it was flooded by a torrent of water. "We went in there to look for the flood," he told ABC News. "Not just a slow moving, advancing rise of sea level, but a really big flood that then stayed ... The land that went under stayed under."

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 12/11/2012 1:23:51 PM     (No. 9059843)

Could´ve asked me, I would´ve told ya´!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 12/11/2012 1:29:06 PM     (No. 9059853)

Me too, #1. www.arkdiscovery.com/noah´s_ark.htm

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Reply 3 - Posted by: CharlyG, 12/11/2012 1:33:33 PM     (No. 9059863)

In the immortal words of one of America´s greatest thinkers........

D´oh!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: phx4546, 12/11/2012 1:47:07 PM     (No. 9059899)

In addition to the holy books ...read the 12th planet by Zecharia Sitchin

He has a ufo spin on the flood

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rather Read, 12/11/2012 1:47:27 PM     (No. 9059901)

Tales from that area of the world mention a great flood. Gilgamesh does. I´m quite sure it happened.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: janylou, 12/11/2012 1:53:48 PM     (No. 9059910)

For some, no matter how much evidence to prove the Bible is true, they still won´t believe. As for me, God said it. I believe it. That settles it for me!


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Reply 7 - Posted by: janylou, 12/11/2012 1:58:01 PM     (No. 9059926)

There was a professor who was making fun of the Passage in the Bible about the Israelites crossing the Red Sea. He said that the water was just low allowing them to cross. A student in the class stood up and said, "Wow, that is a greater miracle than I thought. Imagine all those Egyptian soldiers drowning in only 3 feet of water"!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 12/11/2012 1:58:12 PM     (No. 9059928)

Global warming?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: KTWO, 12/11/2012 1:58:37 PM     (No. 9059932)

The Black Sea flood idea has been around for decades. Ballard may have fournd new supporting evidence or arguments. If so we will know soon enough.

Headline sums it up. ´May have´

The massive flood first requires a large area well below sea level that is not filled with fresh water. But several large rivers empty into the Black Sea. So why wouldn´t they have already filled it and made a massive lake?

A determined person can keep working around every objection but I don´t buy it. Open to actual evidence..



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Reply 10 - Posted by: viking diver, 12/11/2012 2:04:40 PM     (No. 9059950)

All societies have flood stories that reduce the population down to either one family or two people. With that amount of data a thinking person would believe there is truth in those stories, since they are world wide. There is a website that shows the flood story in chineese charactors which is very interesting.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 12/11/2012 2:11:28 PM     (No. 9059967)

A person determined to deny Noah´s flood will, of course, find evidence to deny such an unprecedented event. There is evidence for such a flood if one wants to think about it.

There is much in the news about shale gas. This gas is found in the Utica Shale at a depth around 8000´. Such a depth of black shale buried so deep required an unusual event. We consider that gas shale is black carbonaceous shale made of mud and presumably vegetable matter that hardened into rock buried under thousands of feet of other kinds of shale, sandstone, limestone and dolomite, layers that do not contain vegetable matter.

How do these layers sort out the vegetable matter if laid down over billions of years? There is no plausible explanation.

Now this week we see the politicians, always the last to know the obvious, beginning to realize that gas shale is found in Britain in abundance, in Africa, in Poland, in China in fact....pretty much everywhere serious people have bothered to look.

The Flood provides an explanation that accounts for the "sorting" of the vegetable matter out of the mud that is not...not... found in such abundance in the grey and red shales above the Utica, Marcellus, Bakken, Eagle Ford, etc., type formations.

This black carbonaceous mud shale was laid down at the same time.

I believe that time was just as the Bible says it was, and believe that Ballard is just starting to catch on.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 12/11/2012 2:12:16 PM     (No. 9059968)

I like to think it happened at least 15,000 years ago and maybe a lot longer, when the Straits of Gibralter opened up and flooded the Mediterranean for the first time - which also did happen in real life ... except doing a quick Google, apparently they now say it happened 5,000,000 years ago when even the chimps had not yet evolved. Oh well.

Even if it was just the Black Sea and happened in historic times, maybe Noah saw it happening (the voice of God having many forms), and rather than move away as a prudent person would, he built a boat. Maybe a humongous storm like Sandy only moreso, finally triggered what had been developing for centuries.

OK, not quite the Biblical version, but certainly a story with telling, sort of like the guy who tied the weather balloons to his lawn chair and went flying, only with livestock.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tedward, 12/11/2012 2:39:51 PM     (No. 9060026)

#8 ~ Ha ha ~ Great Post !!! Man just hates it when he is not #1 being on the Universe ~ but then how did all this get here ? The big bang is such a big farce ~ something from nothing ~ it could happen ~ NOT ~ for you Atheists out there ~ I call the Creator ~ GOD ~ you can call the Creator ~ Captain Universe !

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Brianw68, 12/11/2012 2:56:31 PM     (No. 9060048)

#15, your original estimate of the Great Flood happening about 12 to 15 thousand years ago, might be correct. I saw a show awhile ago, where it was postulated that Noah´s Flood occurred when the Straits of Bosporus were smaller than today and only let a trickle of water through. The level of the Black Sea was much lower then it is today, until an earthquake in the region ´open´ the Straits and the whole area was flooded. People who lived along the shores were either wiped out or rode it out and any boats they had. Evidence of the event and habitation was found and presented.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Iowadad, 12/11/2012 2:57:04 PM     (No. 9060049)

FEMA says it´s sending caravans

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Reply 16 - Posted by: mickturn, 12/11/2012 3:04:26 PM     (No. 9060059)

Yep the land barrier between the Med and what is now the Black Sea gave way and flooded the entire region. They have found numerous villages and other remains at the bottom of the Black Sea that had artifacts that were carbon dated to the time.

I could say I was there on the mountain top watching but no one believes I lived that long ago...I was in my third life of 43 at the time. If you believe that I have some water front land to sell you in Louisiana!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: columba, 12/11/2012 3:27:56 PM     (No. 9060091)

It is important that non-belief in God be maintained. Such non-belief allows mankind (oops, humankind) to believe s/he is god and can then kill at will.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 12/11/2012 3:31:51 PM     (No. 9060098)

Atheists will never admit that one word of the Bible is true.

Because, logically, if they had to admit that one word was true, then they would have to be open to all of it being true.

Their tiny illogical brains just couldn´t handle that, and would probably just give them massive strokes.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Pete Stone, 12/11/2012 4:04:53 PM     (No. 9060154)

This is old news. The Telegraph just picked up what the geological journals have been discussing for years.
There is one big hole in this idea. Even today the Black Sea is a net source of water draining out to the Mediterranean. Five major European rivers discharge in the Black Sea (the Danube, Don, Dniester, Dniepr, and Southern Bug). At the end of the last ice age, the Caspian and Aral Seas were so large that they merged, the Caspian extended far up the Volga valley, all the rivers had larger flows, and for a time the Volga drained into the Don through the lowlands where they later dug the Volga-Don Canal. I can see the Black Sea breaking out and flooding the eastern Mediterranean area, but it is hard to believe the water would flow uphill into the Black Sea.
However, it is easy to accept the idea that the Bosporus could have been opened by an earthquake. The flood would have devastated the area around the Sea of Marmara and the Aegean. That is a very seismically active area. Those submerged towns they found in northern Turkey were probably dropped below sea level through subsidence in the North Anatolian Fault zone.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: LAW428, 12/11/2012 4:25:52 PM     (No. 9060190)

This is a "Well, duh!" moment if there ever was one!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: nosillod, 12/11/2012 4:40:15 PM     (No. 9060211)

I thought it was a well established scientific fact that the Earth was covered with water at one time. Sounds like Mr. Ballard is just coming up to speed.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Pete Stone, 12/11/2012 5:14:11 PM     (No. 9060267)

"The Earth" wasn´t completely covered with water at any point. But a lot of areas that are now dry land were once covered with water. Any mountains you see that are made of limestone, dolomite, mudstone, argillite and many kinds of sandstone are made of rock that formed underwater before seismic uplift raised them.


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Reply 23 - Posted by: bob913, 12/11/2012 5:40:25 PM     (No. 9060304)

Here is Noah´s Ducky
http://tinyurl.com/d7vsnl2

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/11/2012 6:25:11 PM     (No. 9060372)

Awww Modern Darwin catches up with the Bible.How about the 12 to 15 thousand years ago ending of the last ice age with flooding remembered in every culture.
Oh I forgot according to some beliefs the
Earth is only 4 to 5 thousand years old.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: toddh, 12/11/2012 6:40:42 PM     (No. 9060401)

Utnapishtim says he wants his legend back.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 12/11/2012 10:48:12 PM     (No. 9060679)

There´s also evidence it came to rest in the mountains of western Iran, which were also within the mountains of Ararat.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: NYbob, 12/12/2012 12:12:24 AM     (No. 9060754)

Seems logical that people who think religious people are deluded would be indifferent or even feel some compassion for their ´confusion,´ but instead they really, really, hate anyone with faith in anything greater than other smug humans. I´ll let zealots argue about the ´accuracy´ of the accumulated and translated words of whatever Bible you are talking about. While they do that I still admire the fact that without ANY knowledge of atomic structures, astronomy, or modern science the authors of the Bible still knew you and I are composed of matter born in stars. ´Dust to dust.´

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mercedesops, 12/12/2012 12:27:49 AM     (No. 9060765)

It could have easily been a local flood--in those days they would have thought it covered the entire Earth. The flood is a very plausible event.

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Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D., Texas) declared the U.S. Constitution to be 400 years old Wednesday on the House floor, which would mean it was signed in 1614. “Maybe I should offer a good thanks to the distinguished members of the majority, the Republicans, my chairman and others, for giving us an opportunity to have a deliberative constitutional discussion that reinforces the sanctity of this nation and how well it is that we have lasted some 400 years, operating under a constitution that clearly defines what is constitutional and what is not,” she said. That would be seven years after

Wasserman Schultz Says Dem Loss in
Special Election Shows GOP Weakness

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PJ Media, by Bridget Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/11/2014 9:21:46 PM     Post Reply
Republican David Jolly won the special election to fill the House seat left vacant by the death of his former boss, Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.). With nearly all of the votes counted Tuesday night, Jolly had 48.5 percent of the vote to Alex Sink’s 46.7 percent. Libertarian Lucas Overby had 4.8 percent. Sink lost the 2010 governor’s race to Rick Scott. The Democratic Party sunk extensive ad funding into the congressional battle, and DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) tried to paint the loss as a positive. “Republican special interest groups poured in millions to hold onto a Republican


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