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Petraeus: Not a hero,
but not a failure

Washington Post, by Greg Jaffe

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Posted By:StormCnter, 12/2/2012 5:43:40 AM

It seems hard to fathom now, but only 15 months ago, Gen. David H. Petraeus stood at attention on a sunny Fort Myer parade ground, listening to his peers compare him to the most accomplished generals in American history. Cannons boomed, sending clouds of white smoke billowing into the air. A band played patriotic marches. The moment was heady, the words intended for the ages. “You now stand among the giants, not just in our time, but of all time, joining the likes of Grant and Pershing and Marshall and Eisenhower as one of the great battle captains,”

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: LZK, 12/2/2012 7:55:26 AM     (No. 9044108)

When I took over my husbands business -- as he was recovering from health issues -- he told me regarding deliveries. You are only as good as your last "delivery truck".....

Petraeus was a fool and you can´t fix stupid -- nor give him credit because he will be remembered as the general who fell from stature due to a loooooose woman´s lips....

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Reply 2 - Posted by: gagolfer, 12/2/2012 8:05:24 AM     (No. 9044125)

Interesting article and worth reading the difference in Petraeus in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Of course he didn´t know or understand Afghanistan; he was only interested in knowing Paula, not doing his job.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: rplat, 12/2/2012 8:09:40 AM     (No. 9044133)

Petraeus dishonored himself, his family, the army, and his country. Only the slime ball mainstream media would try to make chicken salad out of chicken feces. The man is a moral and ethical failure.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 12/2/2012 8:41:53 AM     (No. 9044186)

Let him go on the dung heap of history along with Obama and his whole administration.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: rustycfc, 12/2/2012 8:46:50 AM     (No. 9044195)

instead of serving his country, he got served.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 12/2/2012 9:01:34 AM     (No. 9044219)

FTA: Once-smitten reporters have penned lengthy mea culpas of how they fell prey to Petraeus’s myth-making, claiming that his considerable charms blinded them to his battlefield shortcomings.

Do you think it might occur to them that all public figures such as Congressmen and Presidents should come under the same scrunity? Oh silly me.

To bring down Petraeus all it took was for him to repeat a little lie that he was told to say. Throw in a female, who thought he was Mr. Wonderful, who sent nasty e-mails to another female, not his wife, to back off because "he was her man".

Let´s see, Obama has told numerous lies - do they count? Also there are rumors of a male in his life. In addition, from his wife´s own mouth, she said he was born in Kenya - does that ring a bell?

If we ever get another Republican president, and if there is even a hint of scandal about anything in his/her life, I could give a rip. It´s the power that counts, baby. s/

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Reply 7 - Posted by: delgarno8, 12/2/2012 9:09:11 AM     (No. 9044231)

It´ Petraeus this and Petraeus that,
His morals they abhor
But he´s the savior of our country
When the canons start to roar.

Apopgies to Kipling

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Reply 8 - Posted by: chumley, 12/2/2012 9:26:30 AM     (No. 9044266)

I dont much care about his bimbo. She is pretty cute, after all. I suspect lots of powerful people have them. More than we are aware of.
What bugs me is that he is a TV general. Like Powell in the first gulf war, he was the first one they dragged out in front of the cameras and the last one who should be believed. Hes nothing but a Jay Carney in uniform.
You´ll get a more accurate story listening to a drunk captain in the officers club.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: locomotivebreath1901, 12/2/2012 9:37:08 AM     (No. 9044284)

´Conduct unbecoming´

Vice and corruption are not tolerated in military culture. The result is court martial.

Petraeus was a fool and fell for the oldest profession in the book: ´the other woman.´

That disgrace is worthy of condemnation and banishment to the darkest margins of society, yet men inserting their wood into another man´s anus is an ´equal right´ necessary for military preparedness??

Madness.

God save the Republic.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Arby, 12/2/2012 10:00:44 AM     (No. 9044306)

No one really knew DP but everyone thought that he had gravitas. That´s gone now, so what´s left?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: comstock, 12/2/2012 10:16:58 AM     (No. 9044334)

Petraeus: Not a hero, but not a failure...
And a victim of a preemptive strike by Obama and his minions in the LSM to keep him out of the political theater.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: strike3, 12/2/2012 10:24:14 AM     (No. 9044347)

Yes, Petraeus was caught using bad judgement in a personal affair but that doesn´t make him a bad general. You don´t get that far in the military by being an idiot, in fact, that sort of accomplishment tends to make one feel entitled and invulnerable. Name one powerful man in history (who wasn´t gay) who didn´t consort with multiple women. Thomas Jefferson, JFK, Ghengis Khan, and hundreds of others all assumed the right to have women outside of marriage. The people who now follow the strict muslim regimen had ancestors who had many wives, mohammed included. This behavior did not dampen their accomplishments. Funnily enough, as our morals continue to decay in America, this sort of behavior brings more outrage out of certain people. But if you are of the hollywood class or a democrat, all is forgiven.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Yo Yo, 12/2/2012 10:40:04 AM     (No. 9044374)

It´s hard to keep the superhuman legend alive -- think Joe Paterno.

One thing that struck me in this story was Petraaeus´ knowledge of Iraq and the daily briefings and grillings on key points of their operations. Can anyone imagine our current President undergoing that same sort of preparation as he planned to take on our country´s problems each day?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/2/2012 11:17:09 AM     (No. 9044429)

Washington Post was founded in 1877 by Stilson Hutchins in order to support and give aid to the Democrat Party and act as it´s media organ.

Any article from the Washington Post is vile slander. Do Not Read The Post.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Republic Can, 12/2/2012 11:21:51 AM     (No. 9044438)

Every general of that era, to my knowledge, supported obama´s devastating ROEs. There is no sympathy in my heart for them.

Our military leaders want to overlord a social experiment to please their political leaders. They are not allowed to wage war.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bluefindad, 12/2/2012 11:36:56 AM     (No. 9044471)

Interesting argument #14, but is there any evidence of an assumption of extra-marital sexual privilege in George Washington´s history?

Our leaders are to be judged by their character. Their veracity and virtue serve as a model for their generation and generations to come. Reasoned people with moral insight understand that men are diminished by unfaithfulness and lying, and that a character that is lacking in veracity in one aspect of life generally exhibits it in other areas as well. For that reason, we should be more reluctant to trust them.

Marital unfaithfulness is not uncommon. However, for reasons stated above, it should still serve as a yardstick to measure the character and trustworthiness of the people we wish to install in leadership. If marital vows, performed at a ceremony involving many witnesses, professed before God, stating that "I will forsake all others" and "´till death do us part", hold no lasting commitment, and there is no consequence in terms of diminished social stature for breaking the vows, then what is the point?



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Reply 17 - Posted by: Reality, 12/2/2012 11:37:00 AM     (No. 9044472)

The good general served his country well in Iraq, Afghanistan and as Director of the CIA.
When the truth comes out about the coverup in Benghazi, he will be known as a traitor to all thse things he was taught at The High School on the Hudson. That is duty, honor and most of all country. His deriliction of duty in that coverup is evident by his "RESIGNATION" immediately following the election of 0blamer only proves that he was complict in preventing the truth about the resurgence of al Queda from getting to the voters.
As a result we are saddled with four more years of what is either the most incompetent or most sinister administration in history. Or at least since Lois the XIV.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Marzipan, 12/2/2012 11:57:27 AM     (No. 9044497)

You know what amazes me is 6 years ago most of us referred to him as "Betray-us" due to his flip flopping to shame W. And we are surprised now by his lack of character?


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Reply 19 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/2/2012 12:01:33 PM     (No. 9044503)

Since he refuses to come forward and tell America the whole truth about what happened in Benghazi, he is an utter failure.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: strike3, 12/2/2012 12:25:53 PM     (No. 9044531)

Point well received, #18, moral character can be separated from performance on the battlefield and definitely separates good soldiers from good leaders. I also should have mentioned that today´s high-ranking military officers must also sell part of their souls to achieve that high rank in the form of butt-kissing their way up the ladder, which also explains Petraeus´ deceitful behavior concerning Benghazi and protection of the Disgrace-in-Chief.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: gagolfer, 12/2/2012 1:09:47 PM     (No. 9044590)

The silence of our Congrssmen and Senators regarding Petraeus´ and Allen´s behavior and moral leadership is deafening. They are allowing it to become all the women´s fault and our military "leaders" just were innocent victims.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: TruthandJustice, 12/2/2012 1:43:20 PM     (No. 9044628)

He redeems himself one way...and only one way...

Tell the truth...the WHOLE TRUTH of Benghazi...tell of the arms sales, the shipping to the Muslim Brotherhood...


Petraeus went to Benghazi SECRETLY with in days of the attack...WHY....What did he hope to retrieve and cover

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Reply 23 - Posted by: dman, 12/2/2012 3:00:13 PM     (No. 9044707)

He´s human, like the rest of us. Those who deny it are - liars. Consider what Lincoln said about Grant´s drinking.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: navyjag907, 12/2/2012 3:18:16 PM     (No. 9044722)

I always thought Petraeus was way weirder than the average flag/general officer. Most of them are pretty weird anyway because they´re treated like little gods and get away with lots of stuff for which they´re never called to account. However. Petraeus with his need to do more pushups than his privates (no pun intended) and his obsession over every detail was not someone I would want to serve under or have to follow.//His program was successful in Iraq and I´m glad Obama got us out of there. He and McChrystal failed in Afghanistan which is not a surprise. Why I detest them for are rules of engagement designed to placate Karzai which got a lot of good Americans killed. Obama could have directed otherwise but he could care less about American deaths, excepting his ´bros killed in street fights.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: tanker, 12/2/2012 3:30:15 PM     (No. 9044747)

If he had any dignity left he should have made the choice of the poison pill or Luger.I hpe you read this "Betray-U.S."

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Reply 26 - Posted by: larryp, 12/2/2012 4:19:09 PM     (No. 9044798)

"Darn the topedoes"-- and all that...
I was fascinated to read that the ghost writer for Paula Broadwell was a Washington Post reporter. Since the WP is a big donk supporter and has been, does that mean this whole thing stems from the Ruling Junta, i.e. a set-up?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/2/2012 7:28:47 PM     (No. 9044972)

What I don´t understand is the Mrs. keeping him around. She ought to bounce him out on his epaulets.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: bob913, 12/2/2012 7:31:22 PM     (No. 9044973)

I have a hard time figuring out how anyone can live with themselves after seeing 4 Americans murdered and helping to cover it up.
Only one conclusion.

David Petraeus has no morals.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: FormerDem, 12/2/2012 9:54:22 PM     (No. 9045100)

#16 you are right! I didn´t know that. That´s what Wikipedia says too -- WaPo was literally founded to forward the ideas of the Democratic Party. By Stilson Hutchins. I did not know that.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: eorsc, 12/2/2012 11:56:33 PM     (No. 9045193)

Two points: Gen. Petraeus is the only one who said they knew what was happening when it was happening in Bengazi. The only honest one in the adminstation. He go thrown under the bus for it.
Think back to good old Bill Clinton and how he treated women--and blamed them. He is powergolfing with Obama today. And he´s made millions of dollars. There is no justice.

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GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
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First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already

Harry Reid Doubles Down on Bundy
Ranch: ´If They´re Patriots, We´re
in Big Trouble´

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Breitbart Big Government, by Kerry Picket    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 9:39:40 PM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Friday stood by his statement regarding embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, saying on KSNV’s What’s Your Point?, “If anyone thinks by any figment of their imagination that what happened up there last week was just people rallying to somebody that was oppressed, 600 people came in armed. They had practiced. They had maneuvered.” Reid continued, “They knew what they were doing. They set up snipers in strategic locations with sniper rifles. They had assault weapons. They had automatic weapons. And they boasted about the fact that they put women and children, in fact one


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