Okay I´ll go first. I hope California drops into the Pacific Ocean never to be seen again. There. That should take care of this thread.

Well..duh! What else did you expect?

ND´s state output is less than CA´s underground, untaxed economy.

Geez #1, how silly. If California broke off and drifted away it would probably wind up wedged up on Waikiki Beach and then where would you be if you wanted to take a vacation like our erstwhile president? Two weeks on the North Shore where it´s always cold and damp and windy???

There is always a chance, unlikely but still a chance, that California as a whole will see the light and mend it´s ways. It´s like a Ouija board, the state moves with the will of the people. When things get really tough, the weak minded majority will head back to Chicago and Detroit and Pennsylvania where they came from to live with the parents once more. Then the Ouija board will move in more predictable ways and we will be happy for evermore....

Those of us who are smart and well above average in many ways, will, as usual, keep a low profile and enjoy the sunny, dry(mostly), land of milk and honey....

That´s pleasant, 1. If you don´t live there why are you so hostile towards CA or even care what goes on there? Why wish CA citizens such ill will when they couldn´t affect you at all. My son and family live in San Diego and love it as do most people who live or spend time there.

We´re #1, We´re #1

About 4,000,000 producers have left and 5 million parasites have entered along with 2 million strivers. The producers take jobs, philantrophy, capital spending, knowledge.

The parasites bring a healthy appetite for the government goodies.

The strivers stay underground and off the tax grid as long as they can.

Not only is CA governed by a socialist, every - repeat - EVERY state-wide elected office is held by a socialist. The only thing keeping the state near-solvent all these years was the requirement for a 2/3 majority for passage of budgets in the legislature. Now that it´s down to a simple majority (thanks to 55% of the subjects who think it´s a good idea), there´s no point in the Republicans even showing up.

For some reason, though, CA Tax-Free Bond funds keep on generating dividends at rates of 10-11% annually.

#5. Perhaps because the taxpayers of the entire USA will be asked to pay to bail them out?
The voters of the state elected Gov. Moonbeam.

California also has a lot of cliffs.

Ok, here I go...CA is run terribly because all the leftist carpetbaggers and whacko leftist citizens came here from other states (including yours #1) and STOLE it from us natives. Most came feom Back East but they are from all over. We natives are NOT socialists and we are trying to fight for our home. That said, there are still a lot of good people here. We try to get control back but its hard when gerrymandering and voter fraud destroyed us for so many years. No, we do NOT deserve your vitriol and hate. And NOT every state office is held by a socialist. That is just silly. We do have more Republicans in state office than you probably think. We are just the minority still. There is way too much ignorance around here when it comes to comments about California. Most of the North Eastern states are much more leftist and socialist than we are. WA is also more leftist. If you look at a map, most of the land area in CA is red. It´s just the concentrated coasts that are majority democrat.

Yeah, 57th out of 57th!

Mississippi and Arkansas are glad to hear that.

No they are not Breitbart!!

Just ask any CA Assemblyman, mayor or Obamaphone lady.

By the way, love Lucienne today. Not sure what advertisement you are seeing; but I have gigantic lovely Victoria´s Secret models.

You go, Lucianne.

I agree #10, I love CA, we used to spend winters there and finally moved there after my husband retired. Sister died and no family around so we moved again to CO - and part time in NY. CA is gorgeous, just stay away from LA and SF. Pits - I also know that has changed a lot since I have been there and still write and phone friends in Hemet. I just hope it has not been spoiled.

California will be first again -- the first to declare bankruptcy.

Lived in California until couldn´t take it any more at 62. The South has everything California had before the 1960s slide into hell began. Gorgeous women, respectful men, party weekends and sober workdays. Good peaches. Smartest thing I ever did was to escape.

Worst - CA, best - ND? I can attest to that. I don´t think North Dakotans would welcome too many California refugees, either, although the weather would keep most of them away. It´s a balmy 10 degrees in many parts of the state right now.

Whenever there is a story about how bad CA is governed inevitably there are comments about how nice the weather and the scenery is, as if government has some significant effect on the weather.

There are lots of oppressive dictatorships in the world with lovely weather.

#s 5 and 10, I actually agree with #1, but will make this change to satisfy you. We don´t need the entire state to break off and float into oblivion, just the SF and LA metro areas.

San Diego and the interior are just fine.

If the state of WA is bad, that is because of all the libs that left CA after ruining their nest. Now they are ruining WA state. I live in Oregon and it is also getting bad with all the imports from CA.

#10 makes lots of good points. I lived in a red part of CA until ´06. Gerrymandering to include parts of the SF Bay Area and candidates who came from other states ruined the area and turned it blue. When the economy tanked, the jobless depended on the handouts the carpetbaggers promised. The state was broke, but the social service building in our county was an impressive glass tower in a run-down neighborhood and borrowed money kept it operating.

Keep fighting the good fight, CA conservatives. Perhaps you can take back the state someday.

As long as the political class in KallyFornya is held hsotage by the public employees´ unions, no meaningful budgetary reforms are going to occur. Every one of them has its tentacles wrapped tightly around the Assembly, the state Senate and the governor´s office. They holler "Jump!" and the politicians launch like Saturn V missiles.

I´m way surprised. I would have figured IL for #1...

Re: California ex-pats going to Colorado

They left their left-wing state and came to what used to be a solidly red state . . . and they´re voting the same way that got CA in trouble. The definition of insanity . . .

#24 - exactly.
I live in Colorado and our biggest headache is the Californians coming and bring their liberal ideas with them.

Old bumper stickers used to say, "Don´t Californicate Colorado"

Amen #24. Many of them are very nice people who were thrilled to leave California´s chaos, but they´ve come here and voted to same way. You can´t reason with them and they´re dragging us down.

#14, Hemet is doing nicely, but it´s not the place the old folks go to retire now as it used to be in the 60´s. They´ve welcomed many people with families now. I live about 45 minutes from there.

Okay I´ll go second. I hope #1 drops into a sinkhole, never to be seen again. There.

#10 As a long term (soon to be rectified) resident, I have sent 4 letters over a period of two years to our Sec of State, Debra Bowen, regarding voter roles and the need for voter ID, voter roll clean up (dead people for example etc.) to date NO letter has been responded to. Obviously the voters who pay taxes and adhere to the laws don´t mean a thing to the elite incombantants of the rat party. Screw you - we won is the apparant cry.

The last time I ventured into CA was in the early 90s. All I saw was barbed wire surrounding businesses everywhere, maniac drivers, told not to venture out at night, CHIPs on the freeway warning that someone was in the hills taking potshots are cars. CA may have nice weather but it is a literal cesspool.

Give California back to Mexico, and then shoot any of the stupid SOBs who live there if they try to escape to another state.