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Time To Boycott The RNC
Irish Examiner USA, by Alicia Colon

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Posted By:Drive, 11/29/2012 6:28:13 AM

Throughout the 2012 election, I kept receiving mail from the Republican National Committee urging me to send in a donation for what was probably the most important election of our lives. I ignored the entreaties and instead gave what I could to individual campaigns and ignored the RNC because it is totally clueless when it comes to winning elections. What worked in 2010 to win the House was ignored this year because the RNC is full of the establishment GOP that lives in an elitist bubble ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party has community organizers trained by Saul Alinsky.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: GOP_U_BET, 11/29/2012 6:36:31 AM     (No. 9038856)

Exactly what I did do this past election, it did not work because of massive vote fraud. I vote in a state with honest elections--Oklahoma, so until other states clean up their voting processes, I am not wasting my money.

TRUE THE VOTE is the only hope. Those of you in other states need to work to get on election boards to clean up your states.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ruready?, 11/29/2012 6:38:08 AM     (No. 9038859)

Can´t beat Santa Claus. There is no honor among thieves.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Dittohead, 11/29/2012 6:45:26 AM     (No. 9038868)

Dittos


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Reply 4 - Posted by: M2, 11/29/2012 6:56:26 AM     (No. 9038884)

Another good article telling us why we lost:

The Democratic Party knows how to stretch that 47% to a majority come Election Day and they do this by organizing and by sheer fraud. This is why Democrats promote liberal voting protocols like early voting and same day registration while objecting to voter ID laws and updating registration lists. As long as these voting accommodations remain in place, Republicans will lose in tight races.

The election was stolen by fraud, but even so, there are still far too many Americans suckered into dependency and ignorance, deliberately, by the Democrat Party. Democrats cannot win when the people are informed, so Democrats keep them from being informed. Look at all the stories the MSM spiked in order to keep voters dumbed-down.

Secession keeps looking better and better and I think it´s time to get a little more serious about this.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: nvr4get911, 11/29/2012 6:58:04 AM     (No. 9038886)

Excellent suggestions to revive the GOP but will anyone listen?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mindyourbubble, 11/29/2012 7:19:20 AM     (No. 9038910)

The RNC is just another black hole. I stopped sending $ in 2009. Changed my voting status from GOP to Ind. I have no idea of how many people there are in the "main" RNC offices. I have a feeling it is organized just like the "Goverment". A lot of do nothing commitees,letter stuffers (in season). I have this illusion of smoke filled rooms and just a "hang out" for the RNC hierarchy. To me the RNC is a thing of the past. Tea Party for Ever...

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Reply 7 - Posted by: JAN, 11/29/2012 7:20:25 AM     (No. 9038911)

The maoist did not win a single state with Voter I.D. laws.

The fraud is crossing the country from Washington State, Minnesota, and ever moving eastward.

This must stop.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/29/2012 7:24:18 AM     (No. 9038916)

Instead of boycotting and switching party identifications why don´t something meaningful? There is nothing preventing the Tea Party or any of us from running for and getting placed in the state and national parties orginizations.

We sit here and gripe to each other but how many of are actually doing something about it?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mseegal, 11/29/2012 7:32:54 AM     (No. 9038925)

Excellent article with lots of meat on the bone. Yesterday, the RNC phoned begging for money. I said the magic words "Take me off your list." The man repeated a canned response "Let me confirm that you want no further mail, phone calls......" My reply was "Correct. You have no idea how to win elections."

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Reply 10 - Posted by: plumnellie, 11/29/2012 7:39:02 AM     (No. 9038926)

We gave double to RNC what we normally did. This was because we are stupid. Once again I let my hopes be suckered in by so many ´experts´ like Rove and even many posters who did their best to sell Romney to us. Even today the same ol same ol posters are pushing the moderate lie that we must stop being conservatives and be more like the Dems. I will never vote for another establishment Republican or give any money to the RNC again. Posters who continue to sell the elitist line are no better than those who are outright leftwingers.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: fiddle ed, 11/29/2012 7:42:32 AM     (No. 9038931)

I tried to maintain control when the RNC called a couple of days ago but, I wasn´t too successful.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 11/29/2012 7:46:46 AM     (No. 9038935)

Not another penny. Not another vote. We don´t have the time to waste trying to "take over" the GOP. They are part and parcel of the Big Government problem and are Vichy/ Quisling-like collaborators with those who aim to destroy liberty.

America is in a spiritual crisis. Faithful people will be put to the test and will endure many trials. To prepare for the times ahead we must first pray and protect our own souls with the Armor of God, then tend to our families, strengthen our churches, and serve our local communities. With God as my fortress and my rock of whom should I be afraid?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: skedaddle, 11/29/2012 7:49:00 AM     (No. 9038939)

The RNC is the enemy when Karl Rove says "We should sink Todd Akin. If he´s found mysteriously murdered, don´t look for my whereabouts!"

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Reply 14 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 11/29/2012 7:49:44 AM     (No. 9038942)

WELL DONE, Ms. Colon!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 11/29/2012 7:50:06 AM     (No. 9038943)

Alicia rocks it again! Yet, as others have already observed, what is the likelihood the RNC will ever understand any of this?

The RNC has become the RINO-NC ... the Country Club Republicans are alive, not well, but thriving in spite of us, and themselves.

Cigar-smoke-filled rooms, indeed. I stand with Mark Levin´s position of reforming it from within. Third parties serve only to divide an otherwise majority vote - witness the Pauliacs who sat this one out.

But the country can last only so much longer the way the RNC is going, while we try our damnedest to move the it out of the smoky back rooms. Do we have even until 2016?

Now is not the time to give up.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: The Architect, 11/29/2012 7:50:52 AM     (No. 9038944)

I went to the RNC website and gave them a piece of my mind. Told them until they can "grow a pair" and start fighting to win, don´t call me, send mail to me or send me e-mails asking for money. I also told them to see if they can pry Boehner out of the tanning bed long enough to mount an effective opposition to the spending orgy that the Democrats are engaging in and to stop trying to get along with them. They are not now and never will be our friends.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: MDConservative, 11/29/2012 7:51:28 AM     (No. 9038945)

The establishment Republicans are back in their 50-year minority mode...again.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dman, 11/29/2012 7:59:21 AM     (No. 9038959)

By definition, if you´re willing to boycott the RNC, then you admit that you need a new party. An effective national committee is essential to set overall policy goals, sell them to the nation, manage a national campaign strategy, vet candidates, maintain party discipline (witness Akin and Mourdock), and direct funds to where most needed. It takes a machine to beat the DNC machine. If the RNC isn´t doing its job, then you need a new party.

Take the short-run hit, sacrifice the next election or two, and get this thing off the ground. Unlike the Perot effort, this can ultimately succeed if enough currently elected members (those elected with Tea Party support) jump to the new party. It´s our only hope.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: LZK, 11/29/2012 8:03:36 AM     (No. 9038963)

The only way to beat Santa Claus -- poster #2 -- is to make sure his bag is empty.....

LZK

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Reply 20 - Posted by: steveW, 11/29/2012 8:08:35 AM     (No. 9038974)

I wonder if it isn´t - the time.
If not now, when?
Enough of the Big Government GOP.
Third party: Tea Party.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 11/29/2012 8:20:14 AM     (No. 9038990)

The RNC collects millions but they have no idea how to spend it.

Actually their idea of how to spend it is to give it to former staffers who now own consulting firms. Erick Erickson at Red State has been tracing the incestuous ties between the consulting firms, the 527s and the RNC, NRCC, etc. etc. and how they all enrich themselves while running lousy campaigns.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: citizen plain, 11/29/2012 8:21:38 AM     (No. 9038992)

The GOP is running with methods half a century old. They do not undestand culture and how it is manipulated by the left. I do, however, have a picture of Rove over the $hiter, it really helps!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Catherine, 11/29/2012 8:21:54 AM     (No. 9038993)

I´m outraged Obama ´won´ - but I´m even more outraged at the GOP. They blew off tens of millions of Republican voters - they didn´t want the Rush listeners or ´far´ right wingers. Well guess what, you didn´t get them. I´m all for the Tea Party doing whatever it can to be part of the next election process - that is if we get another one. I have my doubts.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: mikkins2, 11/29/2012 8:25:10 AM     (No. 9039001)

Eric Erickson at redstate.com has a article titled " The Incestuous Bleeding of the
Republican Party" which plunges deep into what is wrong with the GOP/NRC.

Nice little side dish to this article.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: helpme, 11/29/2012 8:26:06 AM     (No. 9039003)

The following two stories are just unbelievable!

GOP legally barred from fighting vote fraud
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/gop-legally-barred-from-fighting-vote-fraud/

Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/

!!!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: enuf8, 11/29/2012 8:31:48 AM     (No. 9039010)

This article by Ms. Cohen should be sent to the RNC, all elected Gov´t. officials from local to the Congress in DC. Enough of the staleness of the current crop of the ´wet noodle spine´ brigade. Deb Fischer, Ted Cruz and Jeff Flake won in opposition to the RNC and it´s cronies, thanks to the support by one, Gov. Palin. We need more of the same!
All of the Senate competitors endorsed by the establishment/elites. Rove and his ilk lost their campaigns.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: starbaby, 11/29/2012 8:34:34 AM     (No. 9039013)

We need a candidate willing to speak the truth with conviction. The power and control now residing in Washington will doom this nation. We need a candidate willing to dramatically dismantle the federal government, sending the power back to the states and to the people where it belongs. One who has read and understands the Federalist Papers (see numbers 45 and 46).

Alicia is on target here, supporting the RNC is waste of money for conservatives. But it is imperative we find better candidates. And she is on the money here too: The GOP needs people like Alfonzo Rachel of PJMedia´s Zonation to speak for the party. He is fantastic!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 11/29/2012 8:35:14 AM     (No. 9039017)

OK this will generate some ill will, but...

The TEA party has an image problem. A good number of people who agree with its philosophy cannot get past the image of 5 year old girls with their dolls that the name engenders. Additionally, you cannot form a governing philosophy based on ´No´. You have to be able to explain where you want the country to go and how you are going to proceed before the ´Honey Boo-boo´ voters are going to decide to give your program a chance. Finally you have to do this in 25 words or less because they may not understand wealth redistribution, but they know how to work the remote.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 11/29/2012 8:36:06 AM     (No. 9039018)

Folks, take the time to read #24´s link. Erickson paints a picture of an incestuous RNC/ fundraising lobby. All are happy to have Republicans lose, b/c they´re getting rich. No more giving to American Crossroads, etc.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 11/29/2012 8:39:15 AM     (No. 9039022)

Heh. I have been a registered Republican since 1964, when I supported Goldwater. I saw then how the grand poobahs of the party went out of their way to undermine Goldwater, collaborating covertly and overtly with the Democrats to cast him in the public´s eye as a mentally retarded, bomb-throwing kook, an effort spearheaded by Nelson Rockefeller, who was supposed to be (he thought) the handpicked Presidential Candidate in 1968, then at the resignation of Richard Nixon.

Many GOP moderates openly declared for the Democrat, Lyndon Baines Johnson. None of this stuff about "let´s get behind our candidate" that we heard so much of from say, Romney supporters this past election.

Basically, this is this pattern the GOP has followed for the subsequent fifty years; Conservatives are exhorted (as in this last election) to "get behind the candidate" so long as he´s a credentialed Establishmentarian; (these same cheerleader types are quick to undermine any conservative candidate.) The GOP position is that conservatives are welcome, as long as they confine their activities to voting and giving them money, and then shutting up and retreating to their hobbit holes and letting the Establishmentarian Old Boys govern.

To hell with that. No mas!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: jackie, 11/29/2012 8:51:09 AM     (No. 9039041)

RNC called me last night.. A girl was mumbling so bad I could hardly understand her.. I told her I did not want to talk to her..Do not call me for at least 6 months..
When the Repubs stop eating their own maybe we can talk..

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Reply 32 - Posted by: OhMy, 11/29/2012 8:52:15 AM     (No. 9039044)

This column is dead on, the RNC does not really fight, they are too timid. Right now the first battle to be fought is on the fiscal cliff and the cry baby is ready to give Obama his tax increase on his promise to discuss spending cuts next year. The revenue will fall with the tax increase but even if the presently projected revenue came in it would be a drop in the bucket compared to Obama spending. The main point is that Republicans are ready to hammer their own base, take them for granted, to try and win the votes of the mushy middle while the Rats are once again heroes to their base motivated by envy and jealousy. The result is a policy which kills productivity and drags everybody down into socialism and welfare dependency!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: beca, 11/29/2012 8:59:36 AM     (No. 9039055)

voter ID....yes yes yes....and you are right obozo didnt win a single state that had it....very TELLINg

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Reply 34 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 11/29/2012 9:03:57 AM     (No. 9039064)

I do not think I have ever seen and read such garbage as this thread with alicia super dumb column. We have a bunch of first graders wanting the dems to be in forever. I cannot count the anti-Mitt posters and suggestions of a third party. Equally stupid. Proud of yourselves, sitting at home and not voting? Bad cess to you. My sister in Topeka worked her buns off with making calls, writing and sending letters and she did not make any money so much for the idea that the headquarters is paying well. Rove is right and the suggestion that palin would have a prayer of being elected is ludicrous. We had a wonderful candidate and we let him down. Deal with it

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Reply 35 - Posted by: O.G.´s Mom, 11/29/2012 9:27:34 AM     (No. 9039107)

Thanks for a terrific article, Ms. Colon. I couldn´t agree more. We are now on a course to lose the House in 2014 because of the RNC. The Republican Establishment allowed and probably encouraged the re-districting of Allen West. It did not support Michelle Bachman. It helped to destroy Sarah Palin. And now we have Obama, his cronies and his press on STEROIDS marching toward the final destruction of our country and the Republican Establishment is rolling over and showing their bellies. We stopped giving to the RNC years ago. And when they call, I give them an ear full. So, now we conservatives are fully at war with the Dems, the Press and our own party. It just might be time for a third party. I know that is a recipe for electoral disaster, but we have already had that disaster and are on course to give up the House. Imagine the last two years of Obama´s reign with a Democrat House and Senate. His third term will be a lock.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Felixcat, 11/29/2012 9:27:51 AM     (No. 9039108)

FTA: Getting to understand the Obama ´phone´ crowd does not mean the party´s principles have to be sacrificed but it will show them that at least Republicans are interested in their lives.

I disagree. Showing you care and actually carrying out policies that would improve lives is what Romeny/ryan was about and at the end of the day - it´s gimme gimme.

The GOP can reform or a new party come into being but in the end, it boils down to which party can out bribe the other.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: joeyinempirestate, 11/29/2012 9:30:03 AM     (No. 9039113)

In the past it was unthinkable to lose Republican-governed states. That tells you how badly they have fallen. Michele and Rand are the gutsiest we have right now.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Avogadra, 11/29/2012 9:34:09 AM     (No. 9039125)

The article referenced by #24 is long and repetitive, but it shows an important aspect of the problem with the RNC elites:

Strip away the candidate and coalition and it is on the fifth floor of 66 Canal Center Plaza where the seeds of Mitt Romney’s ruin and the RNC’s get out the vote (GOTV) effort collapsed — bled to death by charlatan consultants making millions off the party, its donors, and the grassroots.

(Bolding is mine.) The grand poo-bahs of the GOP are interested in (1) making piles of money for themselves and (2) polishing their resumes. The survival of the American republic? Not so much. No wonder the RNC sees the TEA Party as their #1 enemy. It interferes with their fundraising and resume polishing. By contrast the Democrats provide a valuable foil for their self-centered projects.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Sparkybelle, 11/29/2012 9:37:45 AM     (No. 9039132)

#7 and #33, that is an urban legend.

I live and vote in CT with voter i.d. laws and Obama won here.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Nwpa, 11/29/2012 9:41:40 AM     (No. 9039141)

We need to do what #26 suggested. Print this article, and make copies. When you get solicitations from any Republican affiliated candidate or group, mail this article to them. Highlight the areas that really speak to you. Also send this to the Republicans in the House and Senate. They need to get a clue, and there´s plenty in this piece.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: K.I.S.S., 11/29/2012 9:52:38 AM     (No. 9039159)

Will a brave Conservative leader - political, TV, radio, celebrity - PLEASE step forward and officially start the AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE PARTY - Rush, Sarah, Michelle, Mark, Glenn, Sean, Laura, Clint?!! Speaking for myself and my despair over the voter fraud and theft of the Presidency from Romney and abject failure by the RNC to protect the integrity of my vote, I´m starting to do the 60´s thing...dropping out...not good and sadly I am not alone!! 

I know the ACP could not win elections on its´ own (like Independents, Libertarians, Green etc), but just like Democrats can not win without the black vote (quickly being replaced by the illegal alien vote), Republicans can not win without the Conservative vote - and they need to know just how many of us there are BEFORE they cave on everything the Democrats want. We need a big name...so main stream media will notice and explode in mocking criticism and condemnation...to set up an organizational web site. Just like the secession sites, enrollment will be immediate...the sorosbots will sign up fake members, but they can easily be purged over time. This would be a perfect opportunity for the wonderful Tea Party leaders to consolidate under a Conservative umbrella with their organization skills and we can all work together to protect the Constitution. 

The RNC and Republicans despise Conservatives and Tea Party activists...even though they need us to get elected so it is time we stop depending on Fox News, Conservative radio, writers & organizations to get our message out and instead establish a Conservative national party with a written Conservative platform and let the Republicans figure out how to work with us.


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Reply 42 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/29/2012 9:53:20 AM     (No. 9039162)

Nothing willl change in the RNC or your state party until YOU do something about it. Run for a party office, run for an elected position. Get a job with the RNC. Take them over and make the party into what YOU want.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 11/29/2012 10:01:47 AM     (No. 9039176)

#34, My main reluctance about Romney stemmed from his long record of starting campaigns strong and finishing weak.

There is a huge difference between volunteers in the states such as your sister and the K Street consultants. I´ve been around a lot of local campaigns over the years. The last thing most of them needed were the people sent by the RNC and RNCC to help. Those organizations don´t send unrestricted cash campaigns so much as they send consultants and they run ads on the campaigns´ behalf. The consultants earn commissions on the ads run. They also provide software and all data the campaigns´ volunteers collect becomes the property of the consultants. They disappear back to DC for two/four years, sell the data to others but seldom update it. It goes stale and all has to be done again next cycle.


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Reply 44 - Posted by: Udanja99, 11/29/2012 10:14:45 AM     (No. 9039203)

It´s time for the "Constitution Party".

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Reply 45 - Posted by: tinnyanko, 11/29/2012 10:27:10 AM     (No. 9039222)

I suggest everyone send a copy of this column to
RNC
310 First Street, SE Washington, DC 20003

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Reply 46 - Posted by: hummingbirds, 11/29/2012 10:32:18 AM     (No. 9039242)

If the Republicans go along with Obama on his proposal to tax now/spend later like they have done in the past I will NEVER EVER vote for another Republican...EVER!!!!

Saxby will not be getting my vote this time either!

YES! It´s not just time to boycott the RNC, it´s time to disband the RNC and the Republican Party altogether. Stupid deal they made that puts them in a popsition where they can´t legally challenge voter fraud! Where Soros who owns the voting machine company that counts the votes is not ever going to be called in to question!!! Disband them NOW!! We need a new Revolution-a new party that the liberals have no power over!

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Reply 47 - Posted by: lylacat, 11/29/2012 10:33:11 AM     (No. 9039247)

When the Republicans keep supporting spineless men in important positions, like Boehner, it is really getting harder to support any of them. What is it? Is it that he is just a "good old boy"? Let´s get someone in Republican leadership that is a spokesman, a mover and shaker, someone who can hold the line. Boehner isn´t the man.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: privateer, 11/29/2012 10:38:11 AM     (No. 9039261)

Their leaders too blind to see it, the Republican Party is a mastodon, plodding through the gathering cold and darkness, soon to become a relic in the permafrost. TEA is the answer, but since the left so successfully tarred it with lies and innuendo, it must take a page from ACORN´s book: pretend to disband, but go on under a NEW name. I recommend something like the Freedom Party, or the Freedom and Justice party. Or Justice and Peace Party. OR...to co-opt a favorite left shibboleth: the No Justice No Peace Party. Then it would no longer be bound by the treacherous agreement that hobbled the RNC, preventing any meaningful defense against or recourse to massive vote fraud so typical of the Dems.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Ohiolad, 11/29/2012 10:38:50 AM     (No. 9039264)

The problem with the RNC and the Washington GOP establishment in general is that while they talk a good game when campaigning for votes, once elected they act weak and stupid and completely afraid of the mainstream media.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: OhMy, 11/29/2012 10:41:36 AM     (No. 9039270)

Boycotting the RNC is not the same thing as starting a third party. It is a recognition that the RNC head honchos are too timid to support real conservative candidates. Take this decision away from them and support the best candidates individually along with any other measures to take over the party apparatus. We are going into the wilderness supporting the GOP but there is a question of prudence in starting a third party. How long will that put us in the wilderness? Just think about the choices made in the last cycle by each party. The Rats sacrificed the white male vote to go after their base. The GOP takes their base vote for granted, after all they have nowhere to go, and they go after the mushy middle and lost both.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: mitzi, 11/29/2012 10:41:50 AM     (No. 9039272)

I used to send back the donation requests with a note that said basically - "no money until you all grow a pair."

That was until late in the Clinton administration. Now mailers go directly from mailbox to shredder.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Cleanhousein2012, 11/29/2012 10:46:48 AM     (No. 9039285)

#8 - I tried just that. Joined the Repubs (I´ve been a lifelong Independent), specifically to try and change it.

I watched as then"old guard" (the politicos who made up our local Repub committee´s) denigrated anyone who was young, and didn´t support their man (Romney). They old guard got all of the leadership roles, the delegate roles, in fact, they did a great job of alienating anyone who wasn´t ready to go along with the ride.

The result? I´ve told the RNC to go pound sand, and I´ll do as 1 said.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: RancherJack, 11/29/2012 11:05:17 AM     (No. 9039331)

What´s that definition of insanity?

Well ... I am not insane.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: OperaBuff, 11/29/2012 11:08:00 AM     (No. 9039339)

Could someone please check with Georgette Mosbacher and find out who the GOP nominee will be in 2016? Thanks.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: stryker714, 11/29/2012 11:12:31 AM     (No. 9039347)

The election was agonizingly close, from the popular vote perspective, so we´ll forever wonder what could have been done differently to win. Obama Alinskied the swing states, no doubt about that.

For starts, why run a Republican, who governed basically as a liberal, from a liberal state? Did that draw an effective contrast in regards to the ACA? No. Too many suspicious aspects to consider: His state(Mass) probably didn´t trust someone, claiming center of the road Pub. Romney didn´t even deliver his state. The conservatives, nationally, probably didn´t trust someone from a liberal state, claiming to be "with them".

Like another poster questioned, "Why was Romney so hard on Santorum and Gingrich and easy on Obama?". His soft, decent approach, to Obama, reminded of McCain and his, "no mam, no mam, he´s a good man!", when given an open line to say, "Yes, he´s a muslim". The great opportunity to drop a bomb was blown.

The former Luc posters who said, the "pubs are quite content to keep the defense unit on the field", were correct. The person who also said that there "seems to be an agreement to run lame candidates, every other election cycle to give the opponents a shoo-in": ie Dole, McCain, Romney. Romney started this weird "agree with you"(Obama) in the final debate and my jaw dropped. What was up with that?

I received a huge quantity of robo calls from the 202 area code, leading up to the election, soliciting money to pay for more ads. So where were the ads? Many say Romney ran no ads in key areas. Did they just pocket the money?

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Reply 56 - Posted by: tisHimself, 11/29/2012 11:15:59 AM     (No. 9039352)

Ever since Reagan grabbed the mic in New Hampshire in 1980, the RNC has existed as the palace guard of Bar Bushes rolodex and the liberal east coast patrician republicans. Efforts to shake that up, Kemp, Gingrich, Palin, Thompson are all crushed up and dismissed. Reagan infused his administration with people committed to ideas, economic growth, free markets and American exceptionalism. The alternative, represented by Bush, the legacy and most recently, Mitt (2016!) is exemplified by quiet one world monetary policies, a sneering cynicism toward spiritual values and the people who abide by same and a status quo approach to power and wealth among their own kind. Consequently, they share with leftists, academia and the Democratic party a disdain for those bitter clinger, populist, flyover values. Middle america, T partiers, blue collar democrats would be wise to understand that they have far more in common with each other than they do with party leadership OF EITHER PARTY.
So here we are: 2010 and the T party was a revolt against the machine, republican as well as democrat. The democrats figured that out, tried to create their own astroturf movement and were greated with an etch a sketch opponent who represented the most out of touch and ill suited proponent of T partier ideology.
Liberal republicans and the RNC own this mess. When they were polluting the water supply in February, this outcome was suggested, but hey, they got their guy!


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Reply 57 - Posted by: octrojan, 11/29/2012 11:16:12 AM     (No. 9039353)

What #34 said. Stop with the whining about voter fraud and 3rd parties. You just make yourself sound silly. Fraud didn´t deliver 300 electoral votes--conservatives sitting on their fat rear ends during the election did.

It will take a few cycles to turn the Rep party around. 2010 was a good start. Then a step backwards with candidates who decided that with deficits, tax increases, Iran getting a nuke...that rape victims were the hot topic. Stop nominating loons, stick with the rising tide of new talent and we´ll be fine.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: ebuilder, 11/29/2012 11:38:36 AM     (No. 9039393)

The term "elitist" was always sort of a northern judgmental, episcopalian lip service, Prius driving, brie and olive eating, politically correct class descriptive. But then Romney lost, without recognizing or articulating with any noticeable passion that his ghost of an opponent is someone who is apparently overthrowing the country. "If the trumpet gives an uncertain sound, who will get ready to battle?" [1 Corinthians 14:8] Who needs a leader who puts his own polite class interest before his country´s existential identity? In fact, in Ezekial 33:3-6, the watchman on the wall who sees the sword coming but blows the trumpet weakly or not at all, will be held accountable for the blood that is shed by those who did not know they were in peril. Unless "elitists" wake up, they will have their brie and olives, and be loathed for not taking their appointments in life to heart. Conservative Candidates now to come to the aid of their party. Collaborators need to repent and find their red blood. Conservative rules that guarantee our freedom and soverignty are going to be respected by 2014. Getting peeded on is not the natural state for an American.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: Browneyes, 11/29/2012 11:40:39 AM     (No. 9039396)

What in the world do Boehner McConnell have to do with the RNC? The voters elect those to the House and Senate and those electeds vote their leaders.

I belong to our State R Party and over the last 2 years I received exactly ONE mailing on behalf of our 6th District candidate Desei{US House} opposing the Dem. who won.

I too,despise the fact we lost, but unless and until Repubs,conservatives,TEA partiers,evangelicals,pro-life,pro- gun,log-Cabin,etc. Rs can set aside their ideologies and decide that the RNC is a permanent fixture,just as is the DNC,Black caucus,Grover Norquist,Carl Rove etc, the future of "opponents" of the Dems.,will always be influenced by the very group of Rs. listed above, but hey!, fulfilling your desire to "stick to principles"is your choice.

Last thought: I wonder if the Dems.,historicaly,have this problem?

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Reply 60 - Posted by: Proud American, 11/29/2012 11:44:31 AM     (No. 9039400)

The Boy Who Cried Wolf!

I´ve had plenty of time to think about the campaign, the election etc. I have been active in the teaparty since February 2009.

At that time everyone was wound up about Bush spending and not sealing the boarders and it had leaked over into the election of Obowtomao and picked up steam.

It was going to be the END OF THE WORLD if we didn´t put in republicans in the 2010 election. We did elect some and then the humming roared to a rumble of...it will be the END OF THE WORLD if Obowtomao care went through and it did thanks to that nitwit Roberts and it went through and then it was it will be the END OF THE WORLD if obowtomao is re-elected...and he was and here we are.

The old boy who cried wolf comes to mind with more and more frequency. It´s losing it´s power. People are not buying it anymore RNC.

There are smarter, richer and more powerful people higher on the food chain than me who have a lot more to lose when they finally kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

My advice? Hey rich powerful conservatives! Get a plan and get it done. We´re behind you but you can´t play by the maquise de queensbury rules you will lose EVERY TIME. It´s a new day and a new game plan. FIGURE IT OUT!

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Reply 61 - Posted by: plumnellie, 11/29/2012 12:06:59 PM     (No. 9039461)

We had a ´wonderful candidate´. sigh. Typical. We had a wonderful candidate again..and he lost wonderfully. Wake up all who want to lose with dignity, grace, wonderfulness, and high minded. A loss is not pretty. The people who love to lose with grace rather than win with blood and guts are way too empty to even argue with. They hate Palin because she fights and maybe wins maybe loses but at least she fights. Romney was going to lose. We all voted for him. I manned the phone banks until I was sick and my ear was smashed. I gave double what I could afford to Romney. So do not tell me to stop whining. You are too arrogant to be believed. Posters who can still proudly call us whiners are going to keep us losing until we are all dead.

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Reply 62 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 11/29/2012 12:46:28 PM     (No. 9039560)

For those who love the eminently lovable Alicia Colon, this is a deliciously informative column. Alicia said, "The Democrat Party has community organizers trained by Saul Alinsky."

This prompted me to painfully recall how difficult and frustrating it was to support the Romney/Ryan campaign directly. Check out this series of messages:

September 27th: Dear Overworked Campaign Worker,

On September 3rd, I ordered a yard sign and two bumper stickers. I have not received this order yet, nor any indication that it has shipped. I am unhappy. Unhappy to the point of ordering yard signs, with express delivery, from Cafe Press ($36/sign).

I hate to think that Noonan and Kristol are right, but c´mon now...shipping yard signs?

October 1st: Thank you. I received my yard sign today. Still waiting for my two bumper stickers.

You said below, "Unfortunately, due to recent high demand, delivery of Romney merchandise has been taking longer than usual."

Has it been ´delivery´ which is taking longer, or preparation and shipping? I can´t believe that the influx of political season merchandise would overwhelm the delivery systems. I can believe that improper attention to the 6 P´s might have impacted the ramp-up in hiring and space acquisition in the preparation and shipping of time-critical political materials.

The folks out here who are busting our buns and straining our budgets to elect President Romney and his VP sidekick, Paul Ryan, want PERFORMANCE over the next 8+ years...not excuses.

October 9th: Due to recent increases in demand for our products, delivery of Romney Victory merchandise has been taking longer than usual. The Romney Victory store support manager is submitting a special request today to re-send and expedite the bumper stickers you ordered.

Would an Alinsky-trained community organizer treat me this way?


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Reply 63 - Posted by: nevernaught, 11/29/2012 12:48:46 PM     (No. 9039565)

By the way, Obama is going to Hawaii for 20 days at a cost to the taxpayers of four million dollars. That is the clue that he doesn´t want to be around when we go over the fiscal cliff.

Now for the matter of conservatives voting. Simply said, they vote in every election, even when some Republican candidates are worse than incompetent. I´ve been on County Republican committee´s and most of those are less than organized or competent. Conservatives vote, Republican moderates run scared and bring down the whole house of cards. They are good at begging for more money to waste on ineffective and losing elections.

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Reply 64 - Posted by: thelmalou, 11/29/2012 1:03:14 PM     (No. 9039599)

#24, et al, are correct - the GOP doesn´t really care if it wins or not. In fact, I think they prefer being the minority party, because not only does nothing change for them (their salaries, retirement, benefits, country club perks, etc.), but they don´t really have to do anything. They can sit back and whine about the way things are because the mean ol´ Democrats are in charge and we can´t do anything.

And several others are also correct in that we are losing the culture war, and apparently have no motivation or strategery to win it back. I watch the Daily Show occasionally; I like Jon Stewart, and he can be even-handed. He´s funny even when he´s skewering Republicans. So I tuned in last night for the first five minutes...he EVISCERATED McCain and Graham over the Rice thing. He showed footage of them in 2003 in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq talking about weapons of mass destruction, which the liberal crowd believes wholeheartedly never existed. (That they may have been/were shipped to Syria is beside the point to them.) At any rate, his skewering of the Republicans was masterful, and that was just a routine night.

All of which is why I´m moving to Zanzibar.


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Reply 65 - Posted by: ivehadit, 11/29/2012 1:08:55 PM     (No. 9039607)

Alicia is exactly correct. We are not holding forums for debate IN THE PLACES where there are those who MAY listen: churches, social clubs, etc. There are MANY, MANY good places to discuss political ideas.

I am past ready to get this done. Education is the key. Period. Why can´t the PAC´s or others run informative and entertaining commercials IN NON POLITICAL YEARS to get points across? Start with the The Definition of Redistribution: The hardworking A student giving part of her grade to the F student so they both can have a passing C grade...and all the consequences of this.

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Reply 66 - Posted by: William1, 11/29/2012 1:13:08 PM     (No. 9039611)

I tire of hearing the blood libel that "conservatives sat out the election". I voted for Romney in ´08 primary
, as well as general for McCain. Also in ´12. Didn´t warm to either man, but they were better than the alternatives.

Stop with conservative bashing, already. I don´t know any of my compadres who didn´t vote for Romney. I believe the poor result arose from a poor campaign, and an ignorant and indolent electorate.

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Reply 67 - Posted by: belwhatter, 11/29/2012 1:38:07 PM     (No. 9039649)

Many of us on Lucianne fought long and loud against Romney as the choice candidate. We had to accept him but never willingly. We voted against Obama. In this torrent of rejection now pouring forth on the threads, will the RNC and cohorts become even more deaf? They must be defunded and boycotted and those with the visionary energy be brought into leadership of the new Freedom/Constitutional type party else there is no salvation for our self induced and deluded walk in the wilderness. The Tea Party laid the ground work for the new movement - That name must now be changed to reflect the mission of saving and restoring these United States and one that is unassailable by those who would mock and sneer.

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Reply 68 - Posted by: steveW, 11/29/2012 2:08:20 PM     (No. 9039698)

I voted, proudly, for Romney. I liked him, a lot.

But I´m a Palinista. My first choice didn´t even run.

The problem, when you get down to the roots of it, is that the GOP supports - vehemently supports! - Democrat/socialist (therefore unconstitutional) projects like Social Security, Medicare, public schooling, entitlements in general (the list is long) and therefore campaigns against itself, in effect, every 4 years. When the message is so compromised and watered-down from the start, what do you expect the voters to think? Why vote Democrat-lite when you can vote Democrat?

It´s either: we accept our socialist masters, or: new party.

I would far prefer the GOP reform and get back to first principles. But it simply isn´t going to happen. Just look at the news, day after day after day...


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Reply 69 - Posted by: Sparkybelle, 11/29/2012 2:28:03 PM     (No. 9039750)

The whole Romney experience of evicerating his primary opponents while being super nice to Obama in the general was, unfortunately, predicted by many. Romney ran out the clock without trying to inspire and educate. He had primary opponents taken off the ballot in VA and, in my case in CT, there were no signs or newspaper articles that there was even a primary day.

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Reply 70 - Posted by: Penney, 11/29/2012 2:28:14 PM     (No. 9039751)

The House of Representatives holds the purse strings and the voters have elected a GOP majority at this particular time in order to restore solid fiscal policies to our Government. The Constitution has delegated that exact responsibility to each elected member of the House! The current majority proves voters want accountability for the spending of our taxes by our Representatives.

The GOP should examine Mark Levin´s idea to cut middle income taxes by 10% while leaving the upper & lower brackets the same. What a concept!

...Voters did not elect a GOP majority to the House of Representatives for them to simply become as, ´fainting goats,´ regarding any tax increases for 0bama´s irrational spending spree, which is unethically ruining the economy & thus, American life. 0bama is certainly not encouraging nor providing for the, ´´Domestic Tranquillity!´´

Just because the dems ignore their oaths of office does not mean the Republicans should copy them. -YIKES!!!

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Reply 71 - Posted by: StormCnter, 11/29/2012 2:36:21 PM     (No. 9039773)

#34, Salud!

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Reply 72 - Posted by: smcchk, 11/29/2012 2:50:24 PM     (No. 9039809)

The RNC head, Reince Priebus, had a lot to do with getting Gov. Scott Walker elected in Wisconsin. He was very involved with the Tea Party movement in Wisconsin. He is not dumb and not an establishment GOP. He´s a Kenosha boy who went to UW-Whitewater and then to University of Miami law school. I agree with Ms. Colon´s assessment of the RNC but am not ready to give up on the RNC yet.

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Reply 73 - Posted by: Caveman, 11/29/2012 3:15:33 PM     (No. 9039839)

#64 is correct.
The RNC does not want to win. Period.
It is all about the money. id the Dims are in power, the Reps still get the pork. If the Reps are in power, they still get the pork, but the people get complacent and think all is now OK, and they get their butts kicked in the next election because they don´t go vote.
If you are the underdog, it is easier to go out and get the hype-angry Republicans to pony up all that cash. Then you siphon it off to some non-profit, run buy your brother in law or some such, and shazam!!!! money up front, and the pork from your buddies for the next few years. If you are in the majority, you have to take the heat.

Do any of you believe that John Boehner really cares that you think he is a spineless wimp? he is laughing at you all the way to the bank.

Nothing will change until they are all put out at the same time. This includes ALL of the staff members that work for them.

I gotta go. My congressman is on the phone trolling for some inside information on which to trade.


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Reply 74 - Posted by: lencu255, 11/29/2012 3:42:03 PM     (No. 9039886)

I shut out all "conservative" sources of info: FNC, rush, sorry, Mark, you too,...
rush (it is intentionally with small case, you don´t deserve upper case) today blabbered something (I tuned for 1 min and was out disgusted) about dems to be ashamed of themselves. What a blithering idiot! They won! That was the intention: win and rip up the perks. All fascists/commies did it: hitler, stalin, mao, chaves, idi amin and the rest (you can continue the list, don´t forget to include obozo!).
They don´t have the morals, they are freaky sadists. And, please, don´t talk about them being ideologues. Now they will rake in the money, like all the putins, castros, kims and the rest of them do.
Why the do it without being punished? Because we relied on repubics who sold us down the road. I don´t know about Reagan, but the rest of them, especially bushes, did it big time. (Just a remark: dubya had both chambers of the Congress and he did !temporary! tax cuts. What an idiot, or sellout, he didn´t know, of course, that later on it will be the contention!)
WE NEED the REAL conservative mainstream media, where WE will discuss what the repubics need to do for us, the people. Otherwise, all the priebuses and krauthammers will decide things for us.
And we have to be serious about NEW conservative party. I would like to see the best faces I saw so far: Palin, Glenn, Bachmann, maybe Ryan, Walker, West... And screw hannity, rove, and rush, enough of those!

Btw, I sought here the refuge from soviet union, and lo and behold, the soviets are back! I know what I am talking about, believe me!

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Reply 75 - Posted by: absalom, 11/29/2012 3:51:47 PM     (No. 9039904)

The dreary old hens insist they had a great candidate but voter fraud and apathy did the poor dear in. Predictible cow puckey!!!
#1. The leadership of the GOP hasn´t been conservative since WH Taft, excepting Cooledge and Reagan!!!
#2. Whatever energy/excitement exists in the GOP, emenates from the Tea Party, despite their warts.
#3. As one poster said, "voter fraud didn´t deliver 330 EC votes to Obama". After the Great War, Germany bought the argument that they were ´stabbed in the back´ as the reason they lost. It was complete bs but it made them feel better. Today the usual suspects are peddling voter fraud, also complete bs. Virtually every Battleground State, which Romney lost decisively, has a Rep. Gov, AG, Sec´y of State, Senate Leader and House Speaker. So they all conspired w/Axelrod to hide voter fraud? Really??? Truth is painful but cathartic. Romney was a horrid nominee w/o any core, running for POTUS for 5 years but never topping 50% in voter approval, despite a colossal failure like Obama. The voters choose Obama because he was an incompetent they knew as opposed to Romney who simply reminded voters of Bush. Hey they don´t call the GOP the Stupid Party w/o good cause.

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Reply 76 - Posted by: flatwater, 11/29/2012 4:22:49 PM     (No. 9039956)

I followed the exact same plan. I refused to contribute to the GOP, instead sending money to my preferred candidates directly.

I will not send another dime to the Republican Party. This article states why.

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Reply 77 - Posted by: arkfamily, 11/29/2012 4:33:58 PM     (No. 9039967)

I can´t believe some of the replies on this thread. Go form your third party and see where you get.

You really think this was going to be overturned in one election? I am so sick of everyone turning on the Republicans. Romney didn´t have an easy task at hand and the Republicans are in the same boat.

I think some of the posters on this thread need to grow up. Considering the fact that you´re ready to jump ship with the Republicans, you´re too weak to stay in and fight.

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Reply 78 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 11/29/2012 5:21:06 PM     (No. 9040037)

Thank you, #78, but it´s a lost cause. Some of these posters have been kicking Mitt Romney for years and are gleeful at the opportunity to do it again. And, to once again snark at those of us who supported him. This party will never again win an election if we can´t agree on who we´re fighting. Hint: It´s not the guy who wins the nomination.

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Reply 79 - Posted by: fairplay, 11/29/2012 5:41:55 PM     (No. 9040073)

I stopped giving money to the RNC when we ended up with Turkey McCain somehow!

I am now a Rino because I never vote Democrat!

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Reply 80 - Posted by: Polecat49, 11/29/2012 6:02:59 PM     (No. 9040112)

#78. if the republican party supported Republicans, things might get better for the party. However, a candidate being human, makes a stupid statement and the so called republican elite crucify him/her and then kiss up to the out and out crook/ass/flake who is running as a democRAT. democRATS can call each other foul names and get away with it,BUT let a Republican just question what another Republican says and ALL HELL breks loose.

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Reply 81 - Posted by: happywarrior, 11/29/2012 6:05:54 PM     (No. 9040117)

I was a big supporter of Gov Romney but I read #78 and #79 and have a really bad, depressing feeling that he will be back in 2016. I pray he just goes away.

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Reply 82 - Posted by: JediJerry, 11/29/2012 6:10:07 PM     (No. 9040126)

I am postin my comments is 2 parts since it is over 300 words.
What I did this last election was to not send a donation to the RNC because I knew that Big Repstablishment types had taken it over. The same people that brought us John McCain and Bob Dole were back bigger than ever. I supported all of the true conservative candidates in the primaries, but one by one they were completely destroyed by the Repstablishment and McRombananeys machine. It reminded me of the machinery in the movie Avatar that moves through the forest destroying everything in it´s unstoppable path. I NEVER liked Romney, never supported him at all in the primaries. But after it was clear that he was the hand chosen horse for the derby I rolled over. I bought two bumper stickers from his website. One was a Romney sticker before he picked Ryan, the second was a Romney Ryan sticker. I was sick to my stomach.

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Reply 83 - Posted by: JediJerry, 11/29/2012 6:11:12 PM     (No. 9040128)

Part 2:
I listened to Mark Levin say every day that we may not like him but he isll we got and we need to step up and vote for him. I obediently did just that still not liking it. I was excited by the polls in the closing days thinking that R2 actually had a chance of pulling off a win. By 700pm California time, I went to my garage, pulled off the bumper stickerts and wadded them up and put them in my trash can.
I am sick and tired of the RNC, the Big Establishment players like McCain, Graham, Christie, the Bush´s, and all of the rest that swooned and fainted at the prospect of McRobamaney being the One. Now we got Obamacare coming, tax hikes coming and wealth redistribution in full high gear coming our way. Fundamental transformation of this country is ahead of schedules and it complete destruction is now guaranteed thanks to all of the RINO´s that will roll over for the Democrats as we get to the event horizon of this coming fiscal cliff.

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Reply 84 - Posted by: fairplay, 11/29/2012 6:29:54 PM     (No. 9040163)

I know I Know but don´t let it get to you, Jedi! Buck up !! We will survive Obama somehow!! Pray for help in coping with all this!

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Reply 85 - Posted by: lencu255, 11/29/2012 6:40:06 PM     (No. 9040168)

Btw, you patriots and repubics, have you noticed not even one from GOP establishment said ONE word that we need conservative mainstream media? Why is that? How they wish conservative ideas propagandized to the people?

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Reply 86 - Posted by: tisHimself, 11/29/2012 7:11:34 PM     (No. 9040216)

Crying towels for the poor misunderstood Romney enthusiasts. six years in the making, all those legitimate, bona fide conservatives trashed to clear the path, and this is the thanks they get.

All the time invested in whisper campaigns and vigilant negativity toward she whose name we dare not speak---- she´s dumb and lazy and doesn´t understand our brilliance, you know- and Thompson, Gingrich, Perry. Our carefully crafted vagueness, we were so sure we´d connect with middle America. Its hard work coming up with new and fresh ways to be disingenuous day in and day out. They just don´t get us, those bitter clingers. Don´t you know how many fundraisers we attended, how much free shrimp we consumed, how many black turtlenecks we spilled merlot upon? We know who runs things and that makes us special! We get Christmas cards from Bush family members!
We are charming! Why don´t they love us?

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Reply 87 - Posted by: verdantheart, 11/29/2012 7:31:05 PM     (No. 9040238)

I ought to change my user name to numbposterior because as a reporter, that´s what I´ve got after sitting in countless local government meetings lately.

However, I´ve also been on a "listening tour" since the election and have two pieces of advice after reading thousands of words regarding same. A lot of what you´ve read is hand-wringing and venting. Please don´t be distacted by the national viewpoint because actually, politics is LOCAL. Think about it. Here goes:

1. Immediately, find out what your local governmental bodies are up to. By law, they must post agendas 72 hours in advance of meetings(at least in Texas). You must start paying attention at the local level. Know what your city, county and school district are up to. You probably will be astonished. This is where your voice can really make a difference.

2. If you have children, it is vital that you debrief them on a daily basis for the younger ones, weekly for adult children. Do so in a kind, thoughtful manner. The Dems don´t have to go through the trouble and expense of pregnancy, childbirth, diaper bills, food, education etc. They will simply take your precious offspring and "re-educate" them. Don´t stand for this. Find out what damage has been done and undo it. We CAN do this!


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Reply 88 - Posted by: JediJerry, 11/29/2012 7:53:44 PM     (No. 9040267)

Hey 85, thanks for the kind words. You know after reading posters on this thread it looks like everyone is hopping mad. Now the real question is what are we going to do about it. If Gretta has McCain on one wore time, I am going to throw a bowling ball through my tv set. It has to start somewhere and showcasing RINO losers is not a solution. That is part of the problem. Pandering to McCain and Graham is the biggest mistake being made on Fox News. They are either with us or against us and so far as I can tell they are the mdeia string puppets for the McCain Graham RINO Establishment. Just wait until those two roll over for tax hikes and say they want to be working in a "bipartisan" effort to do the right thing and then come on Fox News Sunday and Gretta and Hannity and try to ´splain themselves to us. There is no explaining surrender. It is what it is. An act of gutless cowardice.

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Reply 89 - Posted by: mark1973, 11/29/2012 8:08:17 PM     (No. 9040285)

#1,Your exactly right about the Voter Fraud.We cannot let that issue go.Every single prognosticator leading up to that election had Romney winning in a landslide with virtually no enthusiasm whatsoever for Obama and yet he won. None of the numbers add up. 130% turnout in many areas across the Country and obama getting 99% of the votes in those precints. How is that mathematically possible?...It isn´t! This election stinks to high heavens and the establshment of both parties wanted Obama in to keep pushing the Country left because the left is the modern day repub party.

It´s no coincidence that since the day after the election,people like that phony Rush Limbaugh have been pushing the false meme "That we have to face it our Country has changed and we have as many takers as doer´s". It´s also no coincidence that there have been a spate of articles recently, detailing the statistics backing up Limbaugh´s assertion. It´s BULSHE! They are doing this to dispirit us and make us believe we are alone in our Country and outcast´s and we are finished from here on in. It´s also being done to give the repubs an excuse to HAVE to reach across the aisle and turn further left. The other reason it´s being done is to turn your eyes away from the massive Voter fraud that was perpertrated in this election so we won´t revolt.

Don´t fall for this. I believe Obama lost this election in a landslide because of massive voter fraud.We are still the overwhelming majority in our Country so don´t let anyone tell you otherwise.

Finally,We need a new Party and we need it now!

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Reply 90 - Posted by: RancherJack, 11/29/2012 8:10:23 PM     (No. 9040291)

#57 - I apologize, but ... what you posted is delusional in the extreme.

You are but rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Reply 91 - Posted by: dragonlearner, 11/29/2012 8:27:28 PM     (No. 9040319)

Let me just say that I appreciate the effort that Mitt Romney put into getting elected. I´m not going to turn on him because he lost. His effort was Herculean and I appreciate that. He lost because most people are looking for hand-outs. It´s that simple. Please stop beating up on yourselves.

What Obama was elected to wasn´t so much the presidency as it was the Chief Deck Chair Organizer on the Titanic. Let him have the job. Had Romney been elected, he may have found himself facing an impossible task of turning this country around. There are plenty of smart people out there predicting hyperinflation in 1-2 years. Most people are not doing the math. This country is in for the worst economic crash it has ever seen.

The way I see it, we have two goals:
1. This is the highest priority goal -- Prepare for hyperinflation by getting out of the dollar and into hard assets like real estate, gold, silver. Consider growing your own crops. Prepare for food shortages and skyrocketing energy costs.

2. Second priority -- When the fit hits the shan, Obama will attempt to change this country into a marxist state. Everyone needs to step up and resist this by doing whatever is required to stop him.

The next four years requires a new focus. One that we never thought we would have to face in our lifetimes. But marxists (I refuse to capitalize that word) are wimps. We are the tough ones and we can rid this country of them!

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Reply 92 - Posted by: 4Justice, 11/29/2012 9:09:09 PM     (No. 9040378)

No, we don´t need a new party. We need to: 1) Clean up and modernize the GOP--take control of the RNC from the fools who have no desire to really win. 2) We need to clean up the fraud and demand prosecution and harsh sentences for anyone engaging in election or voter fraud. 3) We need to bring the GOP into the 21st century. Whether you want to believe it or not, social media is one of today´s greatest tools and influencers. It is about engaging people (it´s not just personal facebook junk like folks think). 4) Use the Internet, Social media & any other outlets we can to properly define who we are. The left has portrayed us falsely for decades. We need to get the truth out there. 5) We must all be involved--don´t wait to be saved. 6) we should all reach out to other communities (black & hispanic) and listen to their concerns and tell them how we can help.

The elite & professional pols don´t represent us anymore. So, we need to get new people in there who do. That is our duty and responsibility.

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Reply 93 - Posted by: absalom, 11/29/2012 9:13:27 PM     (No. 9040383)

Indeed the voter fraud paranoids and delusional types are out in force w/this canard because of their need to feel good after this colossal election embarassment. Listen as they bang this empty drum relenthlessly for the next 4 years w/o a scintilla of real evidence, other than their stock in trade; gossip, hearsay, innuendo and rumor. Predictable, because otherwise they would have to take a cold and merciless look at their feckless and inept nominee and ask how it´s possible that a monumental incompetent like Obama, w/a real unemployment rate near 17%, not seen since 1937, could win this election???? It´s simple, if you´re Romney. You just stand for nothing and mouth banalities and platitudes, leaving the voters w/a simple choice; the incompetent devil they knew and Dudley-Do-Right.

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Reply 94 - Posted by: hot coffee, 11/29/2012 9:20:05 PM     (No. 9040392)

Well said #34.

The RNC isn´t the problem.

Gov. Romney isn´t the problem.

The MSM and the rest of the Democrats is the problem.

The elite talk radio Establishment pushing awful candidates like our Senate candidates from Missouri & Indiana (and Delaware & Nevada last time) is the problem.

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Reply 95 - Posted by: noproblems, 11/29/2012 9:24:56 PM     (No. 9040400)

#34 and #57, the Republican Party did not always exist. It was the result of the decline of the Whig Party. The Republican Party is now the Whig Party.

You can spend you time and money investing in the Republican Party if you want. Sorta like investing companies that make landline telephones.

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Reply 96 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 11/29/2012 11:42:54 PM     (No. 9040498)

The statement that conservatives somehow cost Romney this election is a vicious slander, and you imperil what little credibility you may have left on this site by repeating it. Read #61-63, and #66. I did everything I could for Romney once he became the nominee. Watching Mitt destroy two and a half good conservative men during the primaries (Gingrich=bad man, good conservative) didn´t exactly endear him to me. Reading months of arrogant and insulting posts by Romney bobbleheads didn´t help either. However, in the end I voted for Mitt Romney without hesitation--not because he was a conservative, but because I am a conservative and Obama needed to be stopped. Romney had one job--win--and he lost, just as many of us feared he would. As for the "he didn´t really lose" alibi, see #76. I too posted on the German stab in the back myth in the week after the election. Electoral fraud is a fact of life. Winners deal with it and overcome it. Losers cry about it after they fail.

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Reply 97 - Posted by: grundoon, 11/30/2012 5:24:45 AM     (No. 9040645)

You know, there´s signal and noise and fire and smoke. The post mortem of this election is all about smoke and noise. The first and foremost goal of conservatism---number one on the list of things to do to regain a foot hold in this nation---is to neutralize the liberal media!! They have spent the last 40 years dumbing down and liberalizing the public through their news censorship and mushroom growing propagandizing (keep ´em in the dark and cover them with manure). It´s no wonder 63 million ignorant mushrooms voted for the most incompetent man to ever run for president in 2008. I´m not convinced that there aren´t a couple of conservatives rich enough buy to out two of the big three broadcasters (ABCCBSNBC) and turn them into legitimate news organizations. The WAPO is slowly dying and maybe someone can convince Carlos Slim to give up bailing out the Times so it will go belly up. Until the American people are told the truth (the WHOLE truth) consistently every night on the 6 o’clock news they are going to continue to be dumb enough to fall for the socialist/labor/democrat lies on the campaign trail. How many times have you asked yourself "how could they be so dumb to vote for him"? Well, if your world view was filtered through ABCCBSNBCCNN you’d understand why.



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